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Woody Allen speaks out
NY Times ^ | 2/7/2014 | Woody Allen

Posted on 02/07/2014 6:23:09 PM PST by Borges

I was a 56-year-old man who had never before (or after) been accused of child molestation. I had been going out with Mia for 12 years and never in that time did she ever suggest to me anything resembling misconduct. Now, suddenly, when I had driven up to her house in Connecticut one afternoon to visit the kids for a few hours, when I would be on my raging adversary’s home turf, with half a dozen people present, when I was in the blissful early stages of a happy new relationship with the woman I’d go on to marry — that I would pick this moment in time to embark on a career as a child molester should seem to the most skeptical mind highly unlikely.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: child; childmolestation; democrats; molestation; obama; pedophile; pervert; woodyallen
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1 posted on 02/07/2014 6:23:09 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

Who believes this pervert?


2 posted on 02/07/2014 6:25:20 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Borges

Sometimes it´s best not to say anything. MIA, might just maybe be the one who would go out on a limb and talk about his character, but people who defend themselves make me shaky.


3 posted on 02/07/2014 6:25:29 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: Borges

As if I care what this creepy pedophile has to say....


4 posted on 02/07/2014 6:25:47 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Borges

10 Undeniable Facts About the Woody Allen Sexual-Abuse Allegation

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/02/woody-allen-sex-abuse-10-facts


5 posted on 02/07/2014 6:26:08 PM PST by Vision (Tune out, drop back)
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To: Nifster

He’s not a pedophile. This whole thing is horse pucky.


6 posted on 02/07/2014 6:27:15 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
I'm not going to comment on Woody, but I will say that what happened to Clarence Thomas and Herman Cain was a real tragedy. Perhaps one day people will decide not to use unfounded rumors of sexual impropriety as a tool to take down people who are "the enemy".

I'll wait until after the 2016 election to see which side of the political spectrum has decided to be most honorable.

7 posted on 02/07/2014 6:27:44 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: Borges

Why this slimy little pervert is not the wife of some prison inmate is beyond me other than a miscarriage, or should I say no carriage, of justice.


8 posted on 02/07/2014 6:28:28 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: Paladin2

Exactly, he looks like a pervert.


9 posted on 02/07/2014 6:29:03 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: chiefqc

Because there was no evidence whatsoever. Just being accused is enough to go to jail eh?


10 posted on 02/07/2014 6:29:32 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

His wife was 2 when he first cared for her. Pun intended.


11 posted on 02/07/2014 6:31:14 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Borges

12 posted on 02/07/2014 6:31:52 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Borges

Whatever one believes, that is one damn concise, coherent and convincing statement.


13 posted on 02/07/2014 6:33:32 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

the logic is unassailable. I’m baffled why people aren’t giving the benefit of the doubt to someone who is subject to such a flimsy accusation.


14 posted on 02/07/2014 6:36:05 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
Because there was no evidence whatsoever.

I have no opinion on this case at all. I will say the in the case of a father sexually abusing his daughter, almost always there is no evidence until the child talks. By that time any evidence is long gone.

15 posted on 02/07/2014 6:37:44 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: Borges
I've come to the conclusion that New York City is simply a freak show ... and the more time you spend there, the more weird and bizarre you get.

Just think of some of the personalities who you quickly identify as fixtures of New York City, and realize how far from normal they are. Woody Allen and Donald Trump are two who immediately come to mind.

16 posted on 02/07/2014 6:38:00 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: rovenstinez

It does sound a mite pluperfect. The attic protest, the song. Maybe Wilk was correct. He had two conscience-challenged liars in his court, and a vulnerable kid. Maybe trumped up some kind of improper touch into a full fledged rape. The court did exactly what it ought to have done in such an unclear situation. Now it’s between Allen and the God he’s so famously neurotic about.


17 posted on 02/07/2014 6:38:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Borges
... I would pick this moment in time to embark on a career as a child molester ...

I don't like the guy, but he's got a remarkable way with words. LOL.

18 posted on 02/07/2014 6:39:46 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Borges

You’re baffled? Did you read the 10 facts?

1. Mia never went to the police about the allegation of sexual abuse. Her lawyer told her on August 5, 1992, to take the seven-year-old Dylan to a pediatrician, who was bound by law to report Dylan’s story of sexual violation to law enforcement and did so on August 6.

2. Allen had been in therapy for alleged inappropriate behavior toward Dylan with a child psychologist before the abuse allegation was presented to the authorities or made public. Mia Farrow had instructed her babysitters that Allen was never to be left alone with Dylan.

3. Allen refused to take a polygraph administered by the Connecticut state police. Instead, he took one from someone hired by his legal team. The Connecticut state police refused to accept the test as evidence. The state attorney, Frank Maco, says that Mia was never asked to take a lie-detector test during the investigation.

4. Allen subsequently lost four exhaustive court battles—a lawsuit, a disciplinary charge against the prosecutor, and two appeals—and was made to pay more than $1 million in Mia’s legal fees. Judge Elliott Wilk, the presiding judge in Allen’s custody suit against Farrow, concluded that there is “no credible evidence to support Mr. Allen’s contention that Ms. Farrow coached Dylan or that Ms. Farrow acted upon a desire for revenge against him for seducing Soon-Yi.”

5. In his 33-page decision, Judge Wilk found that Mr. Allen’s behavior toward Dylan was “grossly inappropriate and that measures must be taken to protect her.” The judge also recounts Farrow’s misgivings regarding Allen’s behavior toward Dylan from the time she was between two and three years old. According to the judge’s decision, Farrow told Allen, “You look at her [Dylan] in a sexual way. You fondled her . . . You don’t give her any breathing room. You look at her when she’s naked.”

6. Dylan’s claim of abuse was consistent with the testimony of three adults who were present that day. On the day of the alleged assault, a babysitter of a friend told police and gave sworn testimony that Allen and Dylan went missing for 15 or 20 minutes, while she was at the house. Another babysitter told police and also swore in court that on that same day, she saw Allen with his head on Dylan’s lap facing her body, while Dylan sat on a couch “staring vacantly in the direction of a television set.” A French tutor for the family told police and testified that that day she found Dylan was not wearing underpants under her sundress. The first babysitter also testified she did not tell Farrow that Allen and Dylan had gone missing until after Dylan made her statements. These sworn accounts contradict Moses Farrow’s recollection of that day in People magazine.

7. The Yale-New Haven Hospital Child Sex Abuse Clinic’s finding that Dylan had not been sexually molested, cited repeatedly by Allen’s attorneys, was not accepted as reliable by Judge Wilk, or by the Connecticut state prosecutor who originally commissioned them. The state prosecutor, Frank Maco, engaged the Yale-New Haven team to determine whether Dylan would be able to perceive facts correctly and be able to repeat her story on the witness stand. The panel consisted of two social workers and a pediatrician, Dr. John Leventhal, who signed off on the report but who never saw Dylan or Mia Farrow. No psychologists or psychiatrists were on the panel. The social workers never testified; the hospital team only presented a sworn deposition by Dr. Leventhal, who did not examine Dylan.

All the notes from the report were destroyed. Her confidentiality was then violated, and Allen held a news conference on the steps of Yale University to announce the results of the case. The report concluded Dylan had trouble distinguishing fantasy from reality. (For example, she had told them there were “dead heads” in the attic and called sunset “the magic hour.” In fact, Mia kept wigs from her movies on styrofoam blocks in a trunk in the attic.) The doctor subsequently backed down from his contention.

The Connecticut state police, the state attorney, and Judge Wilk all had serious reservations about the report’s reliability.

8. Allen changed his story about the attic where the abuse allegedly took place. First, Allen told investigators he had never been in the attic where the alleged abuse took place. After his hair was found on a painting in the attic, he admitted that he might have stuck his head in once or twice. A top investigator concluded that his account was not credible.

9. The state attorney, Maco, said publicly he did have probable cause to press charges against Allen but declined, due to the fragility of the “child victim.” Maco told me that he refused to put Dylan through an exhausting trial, and without her on the stand, he could not prosecute Allen.

10. I am not a longtime friend of Mia Farrow’s, and I did not make any deal with her. I have been personally accused of helping my “long-time friend” Mia Farrow place the story that ran in Vanity Fair’s November 2013 issue as part of an effort to help launch Ronan Farrow’s media career. I have also been accused of agreeing to some type of deal with Mia Farrow guaranteeing that the sexual-abuse allegation against Woody Allen would be revisited. For the record, I met Mia Farrow for the first time in 2003, more than 10 years after the first piece was published, at a nonfiction play she appeared in for a benefit in Washington, D.C. I saw her and Dylan again the next day. That is the last time I saw her until I approached her in April 2013 to do a story about her family and how they had fared over the years. I talked to eight of her children, including Dylan and a reluctant Ronan. There was no deal of any kind. Moses Farrow declined to be interviewed for the 2013 piece.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/02/woody-allen-sex-abuse-10-facts


19 posted on 02/07/2014 6:42:14 PM PST by Vision (Tune out, drop back)
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To: Alberta's Child

Well lusts can be weird... still, it doesn’t look like either he or his wife were great paragons of honesty.


20 posted on 02/07/2014 6:42:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Borges

21 posted on 02/07/2014 6:43:12 PM PST by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: Vision

And all in a huge show-biz milieu where fantasy and fact mingle freely. Wilk conceded the fog. The only decent thing is not to blaspheme people for things unprovable. Allen is a drama queen and that’s about all we can reliably glean from this account.


22 posted on 02/07/2014 6:46:21 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Borges

The sNooz media thrive on degrading individuals and society in general.

We all know that if people weren’t guilty, the media wouldn’t print the story, right?


23 posted on 02/07/2014 6:46:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Borges

Dude you married your womans daughter .... freak.


24 posted on 02/07/2014 6:48:04 PM PST by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: editor-surveyor

“If it smells like hell... it sells.”


25 posted on 02/07/2014 6:49:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Paladin2

Not I. Everything she’s said has the ring of truth to it, and I think he’s a lying pedophile incesting creep.


26 posted on 02/07/2014 6:49:53 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Borges

Mr Allen should thank his lucky stars he’s not a Catholic priest or he’d long would have been convicted here and elsewhere.


27 posted on 02/07/2014 6:49:58 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Borges

Doesn’t anybody remember the McMartin school trials? These accusations are often so shakey.

Hate the guy, rue his films, boycott them, but he has yet to be convicted.

This is a good piece on the subject:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cathy/young020714.php3

Woody Allen: Predator or Victim?

By Cathy Young

excerpt: “In Allen’s case, the suspicions are facilitated by the fact that he was a 56-year-old man sleeping with his daughter’s stepsister. While Soon-Yi was an adult, it was unquestionably a sordid affair that makes him look like a self-absorbed creep. Yet it’s quite a leap from that to being a pedophile.”

What ever happen to the presumption of innocence? And don’t forget, Mia chose him and without a doubt, she is a nut case. It is not too far a leap to assume that the child of a nut case is one as well.

In my opinion, this one is like watching a couple of homeless people fight; I really don’t care.


28 posted on 02/07/2014 6:50:03 PM PST by rey
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Very true; bad news travels fast.


29 posted on 02/07/2014 6:50:59 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: bigbob

A cheap tarnished brass ring.

We basically have a battle of two blasphemers here. So which side of hell are you going to side with.


30 posted on 02/07/2014 6:51:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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31 posted on 02/07/2014 6:51:29 PM PST by Vision (Tune out, drop back)
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To: Vision

And that means what? What would Joel Osteen say?


32 posted on 02/07/2014 6:53:11 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: rey

“Doesn’t anybody remember the McMartin school trials? These accusations are often so shakey.”


I do,and also the Fells Acre case in MA.

Lives ruined.

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33 posted on 02/07/2014 6:53:53 PM PST by Mears
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To: Borges

He say’s he’s neurotic. Who am I to disagree? Note to Woody: We don’t care. Really.


34 posted on 02/07/2014 6:55:35 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Borges
I for one, must give Woody Allen the benefit of the doubt here.
As one who has been on the receiving end of not just one, but SEVEN allegations (regarding a young daughter) from an unstable, vindictive, malicious ex-wife. I am here to tell you that false allegations DO happen that involve crazy women making things up and forcing and coaching children to repeat them. Especially so while there is custody litigation going on. It is well known in family law circles to be the “nuclear bomb” of custody battles. It's fallout touches all, survivors are wounded for life. There are NO winners.

Every one of the allegations foisted upon me was meticulously investigated by both Social Services and Law Enforcement. EVERY last one was found to be unsubstantiated and unfounded. But on and on they went. No one stops them. Social Services has the mandate to investigate each and every allegation.

I came to be living life under a microscope. DSS in and out of my house continuously. One allegation would be dismissed and within a month another would appear.

In one of the allegations, my crazy ex told DSS that, my daughter told her and this is an exact quote “Papa manipulated my vulva with his fingers” These are the exact words in the DSS allegation that a 5 year old girl allegedly uttered. Does this sound like a five year old, or an adult. Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

In a subsequent allegation, it went like this:

DSS goes to my daughter's day care, removes her from her class for questioning, in a private room:

DSS: Did Papa do these bad things to you?

Child: No, he never hurt me

DSS: Did someone tell you to say Papa did these bad things to you?

Child: Yes

DSS: Who told you to say these things?

Child: Mommy made me say these bad things

DSS: How did Mommy make you say these bad things?

Child: She locked me in a dark room for a long, long time, she would not give me any food, she would not let me go to the bathroom. When I peed in my pants, she put my head in the toilet. She hit me on my head with a broomstick. She burned me with a cigarette.

It was after hearing that, that DSS,later that day, took Law Enforcement to my ex-wife’s home and forcibly removed my daughter from her care. I was given full custody of my daughter. Crazy ex received supervised visitation only, 3 hours per week.

Long story short. I do not know the truth behind the Woody Allen, Mia Farrow story. What I do know is that MY experiences tell me that in a custody battle, anything can happen and frankly, it does.

Off my soapbox, now.

Thank you

35 posted on 02/07/2014 6:56:01 PM PST by jsh3180
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To: Mears

I think we ought to know better here at FR than to provide entertainment for Satan and his demons.

I see a picture of two wicked people, and a confused child. The whole place reeked of hell. Trying to get an accurate story out of it is like trying to swear the demons to tell the truth. It’s futile. Let us pray for the best for all participants. God knows what happened. God will forgive the repentant. I hope all repent.


36 posted on 02/07/2014 6:56:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Vision

Mia Farrow probably introduced them since Mia Farrow is still a friend and supporter of Roman Polanski.


37 posted on 02/07/2014 6:59:30 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Paladin2

>>Who believes this pervert?<<

I do.


38 posted on 02/07/2014 7:00:46 PM PST by KAESNO2
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To: Borges

In the war against men accusations of sexual harassment and pedophilia are the most powerful weapons among the feminized populace. Ignore the enemy propaganda!


39 posted on 02/07/2014 7:01:10 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Taking nude pictures of your girlfriend’s teenaged daughter is fact. Not unfounded rumor.


40 posted on 02/07/2014 7:01:51 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Borges

Who could care less? Judge the film director by his work!

Woody Allen: bad!

Roman Polanski: good!

That’s enough for me.


41 posted on 02/07/2014 7:04:11 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: jsh3180

No winners if you stop now in the story.

BUT.

If any participant THEN offers his or her eternal life to God for God to be glorified in that life...

THE PERSON BECOMES A WINNER.

Guaranteed!

God’s benefits can and will simply swamp out the worst cruft of an earthly past, and even recast that in a heavenly light. It doesn’t make sin not sin, but it is defanged of its sting.

I really get irritated over the “scarred for life” moaning choruses. Secular psychologists invented that refrain. God didn’t!


42 posted on 02/07/2014 7:04:55 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Borges

read this first before you decide... be sure to read the report (39 pages worth) at the link at the bottom of the article

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/02/woody-allen-sex-abuse-10-facts


45 posted on 02/07/2014 7:07:48 PM PST by Nifster
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To: HiTech RedNeck

So, where does the DNC come down on this issue in the War on Women?


46 posted on 02/07/2014 7:09:13 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Nifster

And the “facts” are all he-said she-saids.

Send demonic reporters to a hell to get a story, then expect an honest interview.

Not possible.

The lesser would say a pox on both their houses. But God does not. God says put those lies behind you. Don’t worry about the jail, Allen. Worry about eternal hell.


47 posted on 02/07/2014 7:10:36 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: jsh3180

I personally know of three cases of allegations of sexual abuse that were subsequently proved false, by way of recantation and polygraph tests. In two of these cases, it was established that false “memories” of the alleged abuse were planted in the young girls’ minds by feminist “therapists.” I wonder if Mia Farrow knew any of the leaders of the Recovered Memory movement or was familiar with their subsequently discredited theories.


48 posted on 02/07/2014 7:12:13 PM PST by Salvey
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To: Paladin2

I believe him...he makes a good case here.


49 posted on 02/07/2014 7:12:17 PM PST by Bobalu (Happiness is a fast ISR)
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To: Paladin2

Inconsistently as usual.


50 posted on 02/07/2014 7:13:06 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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