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Rand Paul fights for felon voting rights
CNN ^ | FEb 19, 2014 | Halimah Abdullah

Posted on 02/20/2014 3:59:31 PM PST by Innovative

Tayna Fogle sat just behind Sen. Rand Paul, nodding her head and listening as he pressed the case with Kentucky state senators to restore felon voting rights.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: felons; paul; randpaul; voting; votingrights
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Why is Paul worried about this crap?”

Exactly — is this the most pressing thing facing the country?


21 posted on 02/20/2014 4:19:32 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: knarf

Agreed! When you’ve served your time and made any restorations required by the courts all rights should be restored.


22 posted on 02/20/2014 4:20:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
One can never fully repay his/her debt to society when one commits a serious criminal act.

Then kill them, and be done with it.

/johnny

23 posted on 02/20/2014 4:21:25 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: re_nortex

Ha ha—yes.

There’s too much Paul in Rand.


24 posted on 02/20/2014 4:21:49 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Gay State Conservative
Damn near everything is a felony these days. Even minor stuff that once carried a fairly light sentence have been upgraded to felonies.

Unless we are talking about an extremely violent crime, I see absolutely no reason why someone who has paid their debt should be denied their rights.

For the record, I have a completely clean slate. Not so much as a speeding ticket against me.

25 posted on 02/20/2014 4:22:48 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Innovative

If you stay clean for say two years after release you absolutely should get your voting rights restored. This policy of denying rights to people who have supposedly paid their debt to society is an abomination and I believe the founders would have taken a very dim view of it.


26 posted on 02/20/2014 4:24:51 PM PST by Desron13
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To: Innovative

I agree with him. And I’d still vote for him.


27 posted on 02/20/2014 4:25:51 PM PST by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, STANDING WITH RAND.)
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To: babygene

Felonies

http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-law-basics/felonies.html

“Today many crimes classified as felonies are still considered offensive to the moral standards in most American communities. They include terrorism, treason, arson, murder, rape, robbery, burglary, and kidnapping, among others.”

Yes, we definitely want these types of people to determine the outcome of elections. (/sarc)


28 posted on 02/20/2014 4:26:49 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Gay State Conservative
And yes,*all* felonies qualify as being serious enough to carry with them a lifelong penalty.

In your lovely state theft of items of a value of $250 or more is a felony. That should carry a life sentence?

29 posted on 02/20/2014 4:26:56 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: knarf

“but a felon, time and dues paid and living a real life ... why not ?”

Agreed. There is a limit on how long an offender should be punished.

However, this is truly a state issue. Some states restore voting rights once the sentence time is complete, others never do.


30 posted on 02/20/2014 4:27:55 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Innovative

I read another interview today and rand is now walking back his statements so that his “main focus” is only for non violent drug users and dealers. The bottom line is that he wants it for Liberaltarian reasons and the rats just want 2 million new rat voters.


31 posted on 02/20/2014 4:31:45 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

He is weird


32 posted on 02/20/2014 4:33:35 PM PST by stanne
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To: Innovative

It also angers Conservative minorities who know it is just pandering.


33 posted on 02/20/2014 4:33:49 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Innovative

Proving that “Ran” is as dumb as “Ron”.


34 posted on 02/20/2014 4:34:00 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Maybe Paul has a problem with “meds”.


35 posted on 02/20/2014 4:35:23 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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36 posted on 02/20/2014 4:36:18 PM PST by RedMDer
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To: Innovative

Yes, many crimes are. There are thousands upon thousands.

Did you know that if you ship a pack of smokes in the mail it’s a felony?

#1) Drug abuse violations are exceptionally common, often the most common felony offense, with about 2,000,000 violations annually. #2) Property crimes include auto theft, burglary, larceny, arson, and theft. #3) Driving while intoxicated is so common that every one of the states spends an incredible amount of law enforcement time and expense on preventing and catching DUI offenders. #4) Larceny (theft), under the category of property crimes, is by itself one of the most common felony crimes in the U.S. #5) Assault is, tragically, tremendously common, with well over 1,000,000 offenses each year. #6) Disorderly conduct is a category that includes various crimes that pose a risk to society. #7) Liquor laws that limit the sales of alcohol, such as sales to minors, are broken regularly across all of the states. #8) Violent crime is another category including manslaughter, murder, robbery, assault, and forcible rape. #9) Public drunkenness is still considered a crime and is rather common. #10), #11), and #12) consecutively are the individual crimes from the violent crime category, namely: aggravated assault, burglary, and vandalism. Each of these holds a spot in the top 20 felony offenses. #13) Due to media raising awareness, most Americans are aware of the commonness of fraud in the business and political arenas. #14) Weapons violations include carrying a concealed weapon, or possessing a gun without a license. #15) Curfew and loitering laws exist in certain areas for different reasons, such as controlling gang activity. #16) Robbery is next in line, which is theft involving direct contact with the victim. #17) Domestic violence and child abuse are sadly pervasive crimes in every city in the U.S. #18) Stolen property violations include being in possession of stolen property, whether or not the possessor is the one who stole the property. #19) Motor vehicle theft is common enough that car alarms are a must-have item in many neighborhoods. #20) Finally, forgery and counterfeiting include writing checks on someone else’s account and printing fake money. Together these 20 most common felony crimes cost taxpayers billions of dollars a year and are the focus of much political debate on prevention and reform.


37 posted on 02/20/2014 4:40:35 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Gay State Conservative

If you don’t believe degree of crime carry different prison time, then you must believe all crimes whatever it is, should have 100 years prison time


38 posted on 02/20/2014 4:41:26 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: Innovative

A thought came to me, which could be a sort of compromise. Those out of prison will need to have a good behavior grace period before voting right is restored. If you’re in jail for 5 years, you need to have 5 years good behavior before voting right is restored


39 posted on 02/20/2014 4:43:41 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: knarf

Agreed!!


40 posted on 02/20/2014 4:43:55 PM PST by LexRex in TN ("A republic, if you can keep it.......")
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