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'Submerged forests' revealed by UK storms
TheTelegraph ^ | 21 Feb 2014 | Matthew Payton

Posted on 02/22/2014 8:26:28 AM PST by shove_it

Ancient trees are now emerging for the first time in decades along the Cornish and Welsh coasts after being underwater for thousands of years just off the British shores

While scientists have long known of the existence of these forests, geologists have been now able to use radioactive carbon dating on the Mount Bay specimens and discern that forests extended across the entire bay between 4000 to 6000 years ago. This is a time period when human communities in Britain were slowly abandoning hunter gathering lifestyles for farming...

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; globalcooling; globalwarming; godsgravesglyphs
More evidence of prehistoric man-made globull warming caused by ancient farmers and their tractors, combines, SUVs, air conditioning, etc.
1 posted on 02/22/2014 8:26:28 AM PST by shove_it
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To: shove_it

I think you’ve nailed it. I expect to hear the liberals all on that talking point soon.


2 posted on 02/22/2014 8:28:05 AM PST by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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To: shove_it

Must be global warming. Those cavemen built fires with no social conscience whatsoever. /sarc


3 posted on 02/22/2014 8:30:11 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: shove_it

Wait a minute. If ancient forests are being revealed when the water recedes, does that mean that more water is being frozen in the poles? Hallelujah, Obama has done it!


4 posted on 02/22/2014 8:30:22 AM PST by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: shove_it

“These forests were growing four or five thousand years when climate was slightly warmer than today”

Further evidence of global cooling.


5 posted on 02/22/2014 8:31:40 AM PST by BinaryBoy (Starve the RINOs: Not one dollar, not one vote.)
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To: shove_it

“Trees stumps emerging off the Welsh coast between Broth and Ynyslas are also believed to hale from the same time period.”

“Hale?”


6 posted on 02/22/2014 8:31:42 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Hey, it’s a Brit newspaper, it’s their language.


7 posted on 02/22/2014 8:34:22 AM PST by shove_it (old Old Guardsman 1962-63)
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To: Defiant
Wait a minute. If ancient forests are being revealed when the water recedes, does that mean that more water is being frozen in the poles? Hallelujah, Obama has done it!

Another campaign promise fulfilled. What a savior, the one we have been waiting for!

8 posted on 02/22/2014 8:36:47 AM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: shove_it

This seems to be about the time the Wisconsin Glacial period ended and the glacial melting raised the ocean levels. Anyone with more knowledge of this, please add.


9 posted on 02/22/2014 8:36:48 AM PST by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: shove_it

Cool post - thanks.


10 posted on 02/22/2014 8:40:00 AM PST by GOPJ ("Great powers are driven by a mixture of confidence and insecurity.")
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To: Rumplemeyer

About the same time, Lake Superior was 60 feet higher than it is today.


11 posted on 02/22/2014 8:42:40 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Yo!
12 posted on 02/22/2014 8:44:08 AM PST by FAA
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Hale != Hail

Just one more example of the illiteracy of the journalistic class....


13 posted on 02/22/2014 8:45:02 AM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: Spok
Must be global warming. Those cavemen built fires with no social conscience whatsoever.


14 posted on 02/22/2014 8:48:44 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: LaRueLaDue
Hale != Hail...Just one more example of the illiteracy of the journalistic class....

Look it up in the Encyclopaedia Britannica, along with "tyre" "colour" "behaviour" "petrol" "wings" "bonnet" and "draught".

15 posted on 02/22/2014 8:52:53 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: FAA

He was a great guy. Ran into him playing Golf at LA’s Wilson/Harding course in Griffith Park. Same jovial oaf he always seemed.

RIP Alan Hale. ‘Hope we get to meet again across the River.


16 posted on 02/22/2014 8:55:11 AM PST by onedoug
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To: shove_it

It were the coal-fired power plants what done it.


17 posted on 02/22/2014 8:57:02 AM PST by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: Iron Munro

Bullseye!


18 posted on 02/22/2014 8:59:37 AM PST by shove_it (old Old Guardsman 1962-63)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Hale yes! And I bet they were hail and hearty too!


19 posted on 02/22/2014 9:02:24 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Defiant
This is confusing to me. Global warming is supposed to mean higher seas, and yet this suggests that there were thriving forests at a time when there were lower seas.

Could the climate and the earth's response to it be much more complicated than the modelers are accounting for?

20 posted on 02/22/2014 9:13:32 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: shove_it

Possibly caused when Lake Agassiz in North America, drained 8200 years ago. Pretty amazing that a lake in North America drains and land disappears in northern Europe and probably all over the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Agassiz


21 posted on 02/22/2014 9:27:51 AM PST by Mercat
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To: shove_it
Sort of amazing these people 5,000 to 6,000 years ago managed to adapt to the climate change without government help...

/ S

22 posted on 02/22/2014 9:38:44 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mastador1

Isn’t that supposed to be spelt hail and hartey?


23 posted on 02/22/2014 9:48:44 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: shove_it

Forests thrived? Look at them, they’re all DEAD.


24 posted on 02/22/2014 9:51:25 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Mercat

Very interesting read.Thanks for posting!


25 posted on 02/22/2014 9:56:50 AM PST by catbertz
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To: John Valentine
Actually it is: hale and hearty an old person who is hale and hearty is still very healthy and strong At 77 he is hale and hearty, getting up at six every morning to walk three miles. See also: and, hale

I was simply parodying the articles misuse of the word.

26 posted on 02/22/2014 10:01:44 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: shove_it; SunkenCiv

Glub


27 posted on 02/22/2014 10:18:14 AM PST by shove_it (old Old Guardsman 1962-63)
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To: shove_it
More evidence of prehistoric man-made globull warming caused by ancient farmers and their tractors, combines, SUVs, air conditioning, etc.

Og like AC. Run all day. Keep cave cool!

28 posted on 02/22/2014 10:25:30 AM PST by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: shove_it; 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...
Thanks shove_it. The Sinking Lands are described in The Mabinogeon; legendary king Bran the Blessed was so large (he was a giant) that no house could hold him nor ship bear him. When the Welsh crossed the Irish Sea to help their sister, the rest of the warriors crossed on rafts, and Bran waded with just his head above water. South, there were the Lost Lands of Lyonesse, off modern Cornwall, and in the north the Giant's Causeway. Either these legends are distortions of actual information passed down for thousands of years, or they are just amazing coincidences.

29 posted on 02/22/2014 10:54:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks shove_it. A nice two-list ping.

30 posted on 02/22/2014 10:55:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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Iron Age hillfort, site still attributed to Bran, whose name means raven or crow.

http://www.castlewales.com/dinas.html


31 posted on 02/22/2014 10:56:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

No, Rock, go to the Telegraph article and read all the comments of the Brits there. Hale is wrong to them, too.

No, take those snow tyres off come May Day, or you’re going down to the court centre and then gaol!


32 posted on 02/22/2014 10:57:10 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Mastador1
I was simply parodying the articles misuse of the word.

So was I.

33 posted on 02/22/2014 11:05:27 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: shove_it

“These forests were growing four or five thousand years when climate was slightly warmer than today.”

Sigh.


34 posted on 02/22/2014 11:42:30 AM PST by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

In the North Sea, human artifacts and the bones of land animals are dredged. Tree trunks are submerged with roots still in the soil. Authorities think the land sank about 1500 bc.

Submerged forests off the coast of England and Wales are numerous. They are considered recent and post-glacial.

Submerged forests are found near Greenland, America’s east coast and elsewhere around the world. Several thousand years ago, the earth rose and fell.

http://esdocs.org/docs/index-10737.html?page=6


35 posted on 02/22/2014 1:15:13 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: shove_it

interesting


36 posted on 02/22/2014 1:18:25 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Well what the hale.

Larri?


37 posted on 02/22/2014 1:41:26 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: shove_it

There are a couple of big stumps hereabouts that are visible at extreme low tide, but the geologists say the land sank in an earthquake.


38 posted on 02/22/2014 4:31:10 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: shove_it
Mr Howie has labelled the stumps as “very fragile” and could be damaged by further bad weather and unaware onlookers.

Good grief, these stumps have been rotting under water for 6 thousand years and they are worried about damaging them? Skewed priorities? How about focusing on protecting living people from bad weather (and onlookers)! Or just leave weather be, it'll do what it wants all on it's own.

39 posted on 02/22/2014 5:07:48 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Alas Babylon!

“court centre”

Old Bailey.


40 posted on 02/22/2014 5:19:23 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: SunkenCiv; Mercat

Thanks for the Ping. That Wiki piece about Lake Agassiz is one of the most fascinating things I’ve read in some time. Much appreciated!


41 posted on 02/22/2014 10:11:51 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Who issued the standdown order and where was pResident "Obama"?)
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