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Pressure mounts over Arizona bill opposed by gays
AP ^ | February 24, 2014 | Bob Christie

Posted on 02/25/2014 5:49:57 AM PST by C19fan

Republican Gov. Jan Brewer faced intensifying pressure Monday from CEOs, politicians in Washington and state lawmakers in her own party to veto a bill that would allow business owners with strongly held religious beliefs to deny service to gays and lesbians.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; marriage; religion
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This is an example of why I think the reality is these conscience laws are going nowhere. Also a reminder that SoCons are all alone on this and will receive no support from the GOPe politicians and their pay masters.
1 posted on 02/25/2014 5:49:57 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan
Queers: "We are the 3.5%."
2 posted on 02/25/2014 5:51:39 AM PST by upchuck (South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy for Speaker of the House!!!)
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To: C19fan
The gay obsessed media creates, then reports, pressure.

What else is new?

3 posted on 02/25/2014 5:52:19 AM PST by skeeter
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To: C19fan
Our rights are being eroded by perverts over their sexual preferences
and their inability to control their sexual addiction. And please don't forget
that they are coming for our Children in the name of sexual freedom. All Pedophiles.
4 posted on 02/25/2014 5:56:18 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: C19fan

What pressure? The 2 percenters?


5 posted on 02/25/2014 5:59:06 AM PST by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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This is an example of why I think the reality is these conscience laws are going nowhere.

Becuase they're poorly written. Under the Arizona law as passed, any person can deny any services to anyone for any reason so long as they claim it violates their religious beliefs.

6 posted on 02/25/2014 6:00:16 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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NO FREEDOM OF RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES!
7 posted on 02/25/2014 6:00:28 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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Since this is a “bill”, if Brewer signs it, the courts will overturn it.

Count on it. They always do.


8 posted on 02/25/2014 6:00:56 AM PST by dforest
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To: Mechanicos

Listening to Imus this AM and the clips they choose from late night TV, the push in pop culture for this, including the studio, and wide audiences of the Late Night circuit, is huge.

The applause for the openly gay basketball player is huge. It’s as if a SEAL team had come back to base without getting questionably shot down, such applause.

The men are whipped into this position by liberal wives and/or studio execs. Are they really applauding this?

The only thing to imagine about any of this if one is to live an honest life is the behavior they engage in. How is that healthy for our culture?

I don’t want this, nor do I want my family subjected to all of this.

In my religion, we treat everyone like God’s children, and we lay people don’t consider what people do in private. Likewise, we don’t want to hear about it.

I know people for 25, 40 years. Friends. I patronize businesses whose proprietors are most likely gay. I never talk about sex with these people, nor anyone else.

I do not bombard myself with sex images through Hollywood films. I keep in the house, on t=TV only things a middle schooler could watch.

I don’t want to think of all this.

If I were a baker in AZ and someone told me they wanted a cake, I’d make it. I don’t want to nor need to know the details. That’s their business.

so these people have the right to say shh I don’t want to hear any details?

You want a cake, here’s a cake. That’s my business. If they ask me if I think they are on the right path in life, I’lll tell them what my religion says, if they would like to know.

Are they asking me to put weird things on the cake? I’ll say no, If I don’t have the right to do that, that’s a problem.


9 posted on 02/25/2014 6:12:17 AM PST by stanne
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To: DoodleDawg

Some years back, it was not unusual to see a sign posted near or in the entry of food establishments that read:” We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.”
Also : “No shirt, no shoes, no service.Those days have been swept into the dustbin of PCness.


10 posted on 02/25/2014 6:12:23 AM PST by Straight8
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No, the bill does not “allow them to refuse service to gays” it just does not “FORCE THEM to give service” to anyone they don’t want to serve.

If I don’t want your business how can the government FORCE me to give you service? (and would you really want what I give you if I am forced?)


11 posted on 02/25/2014 6:12:53 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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When forced to give service to gays tell them you used HOLY WATER in the cake instead of regular water, in an attempt to ‘cure’ them...

I bet hilarity ensues!

(I love it when hilarity ensues)


12 posted on 02/25/2014 6:14:27 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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I gues AZ will be a “laughingstock” again


13 posted on 02/25/2014 6:16:19 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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She should sign it and say she’s doing it to appease Muslims who oppose homosexuality...there wouldn’t be a peep out of any politician!


14 posted on 02/25/2014 6:17:20 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: stanne

“Listening to Imus this AM”

And I will bet that goofy looking Imus and the rest of the Faux News “conservatives” are all for the bill being vetoed.
Hopefully Brewer will show some nerve and sign it and say in a press conference that everything in this country has a right to religious liberty! Day in and day all you read about is more sodomy crap. It makes me sick to my stomach.


15 posted on 02/25/2014 6:21:09 AM PST by NKP_Vet (“From man’s sweat and God’s love, beer came into the world.” – St. Arnold of Metz)
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Since this is a “bill”, if Brewer signs it, the courts will overturn it.

This is why our Republic is gone. Law is now subject to a cabaal (heh) of elitist lawyers who pick and choose which laws they like, and which they do not. The people are no longer in control. Any law, or even amendment to a states' constitution that the elites dislike, is stripped away by the black robed avant-garde.

I am not represented, I have no say. It is tyranny.

16 posted on 02/25/2014 6:23:40 AM PST by ecomcon
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So? Why shouldn’t a private business be able to serve those they want?


17 posted on 02/25/2014 6:24:44 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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I see some Republicans who voted for this are calling for its veto.

And a number of corporations are calling for a veto too

I had to read till the end but I found this :
Arizona has no such law protecting people based on sexual orientation.”

And neither does the federal government. So it looks like a symbolic bill.

18 posted on 02/25/2014 6:30:59 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor ')
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To: NKP_Vet

Yes.

They have Juansie on, as well. Almost ready to unpause the DVR to witness the “Ooh! you maverick” smooching.

Last week they had Monica Crowley on. Imus commented, nastily, that O’Reilley was right to berate her for her claim that Zero is out to wreck things.

So, Imus interrogated her, with the premise of, gee you look great today, and I like you that’s why I have you on for all these years and You are always wrong and How can you possibly think the president is out to hurt the country, and Do not expect me to back up my accusations with any facts!

He has a self deprecation, and at least he has her on, and lets her talk, more than O’Rielley and more than any liberal MSM guy.

She answered all his questions, and put up with his turning off his mike with great class.

And she non-castratingly presented him with her sound, calm reasonable case.

The whole lot of the guys in the room were so quiet and Imus ended up with his nose (literally) against the mike. He didn’t want to know the truth, but he heard it.

He was funny about it and then changed the subject. His entire audience heard her case, uninterrupted. So, It was good. He and the guys knew she had a very good point, and if they don’t agree, they let her talk to the audience.

Which makes him better than all the other MSM dopes and good on Fox, as his NY radio audience is not conservative


19 posted on 02/25/2014 6:35:41 AM PST by stanne
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But he’s a crabby old whipped man in most ways and a portrayal of his wide audience of the same type.

It’s hard to witness but it is what’s going on.

It is not our only source of news, trust me.


20 posted on 02/25/2014 6:38:35 AM PST by stanne
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