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NATO warns Russia to cease and desist in Ukraine
Euronews ^ | 02/03 14:09 CET

Posted on 03/02/2014 3:10:12 PM PST by annalex

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To: AnAmericanAbroad
Polish military vehicles on the way to Ukraine/Polish border. For what purpose, that’s a good guess. But they’re on the way for some reason.

If the Europeans aren't preparing to ship huge amounts of material aid to Ukraine, then they are sleeping at the switch. Given the way Germany insisted on refighting WWII in Yugoslavia, I think the odds of Germany not helping Ukraine are zero. We'll see. For Poland, this is an existential crisis - Ukraine's territorial is essential for Poland's national security. Do the Poles really believe Uncle Sam will fight to keep Poland free from its former Russian overlord? Just in case, it's better to have a unitary Ukraine, which can be had on the cheap by providing a equipment to Ukrainians willing to the pay the price for freedom.

61 posted on 03/02/2014 3:56:58 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: cunning_fish
I don’t think China would join any sanctions.

China might; they send us all that junk in Walmart.

Beside, the KGB men do not vacation in China, nor do they educate their kids there, they like Europe.

62 posted on 03/02/2014 3:57:42 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: dfwgator

Flashback: Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia

The killings were directly linked with the policies of the Bandera faction of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and its military arm - Ukrainian Insurgent Army, whose goal specified at the Second Conference of the Stepan Bandera faction of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN-B) during 17–23 February 1943, or at least in March 1943 was to purge all non-Ukrainians from the future Ukrainian state. Not limiting their activities to the purging of Polish civilians, the UPA also wanted to erase all traces of sustained Polish presence in the area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia


63 posted on 03/02/2014 3:57:45 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: pierrem15

I have never watched American Idol, azz-wee-pay.
There is not one single or group of people
from the Ukraine, Russia, or Europe that
can put one single bean or potato on my table.


64 posted on 03/02/2014 3:58:07 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
For Poland, this is an existential crisis - Ukraine's territorial integrity is essential for Poland's national security.
65 posted on 03/02/2014 3:58:16 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: annalex

Or what? Warn Russia about it’s income inequality?


66 posted on 03/02/2014 3:59:44 PM PST by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

And when Russian and Chinese money come into the Democratic Party and our own oligarch wannabees here, you can kiss those beans goodbye.


67 posted on 03/02/2014 4:00:04 PM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: annalex

“... stay on topic and discuss the matter on hand ...”
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Yes, teacher.
So NATO wants to lecture Russia (non-NATO)
regarding their actions regarding the Ukraine (non-NATO).
Got it.


68 posted on 03/02/2014 4:01:36 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Right, but I was listing the countries with Russian minorities.

Speaking of which, Putin is on very thin ice here. Russian Federation is filled with enclaves that might follow the Crimean provocation model to demand their own independent states.


69 posted on 03/02/2014 4:01:38 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Zhang Fei
We'll see. For Poland, this is an existential crisis - Ukraine's territorial is essential for Poland's national security.

If Lviv/Lwow were threatened by the Russians, the Poles will move in first, I guarantee that.

70 posted on 03/02/2014 4:01:49 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: pierrem15

Yeah, like any of this has anything to do with any of that.


71 posted on 03/02/2014 4:02:41 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

unfortunatly we dont have the means anymore our military has gone gay, anti christian, pro moslem and has become so political it has forgotten how to kill people and break things, Besides our government is preoccupied in spying on us so that dont have a clue what to do. Mark this... Obamas legacy will include the dismantling of NATO.


72 posted on 03/02/2014 4:02:56 PM PST by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: Zhang Fei

Poles have fought in Iraq and Afghanistan, they are well-trained and experienced. The Russians will meet their match in them.


73 posted on 03/02/2014 4:03:24 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Russia is not an “ordinary” country

Good post. Right on about Eurasianism.

74 posted on 03/02/2014 4:03:30 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Show me the contract.

The Budapest Memorandum is not indeed a ratified treaty, but it is a document signed by our President (well, by Clinton...) and the UK's Prime Minister, and Yeltsin. Without a ratification it is not enforceable. Nevertheless it is an obligation the US undertook. Do we really want to put the aftermath of the Cold War into question? Do we want to debase our diplomatic guarantee in general, and still call ourselves the leader of the free world?

75 posted on 03/02/2014 4:07:12 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: jimbo123; dfwgator
Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia

Right. In this light, let us reflect on how noble Poland's behavior was supporting the Maidan and letting the WWII past remain in the past.

76 posted on 03/02/2014 4:09:17 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
"...it is not enforceable. Nevertheless it is an obligation ..."
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77 posted on 03/02/2014 4:10:51 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Dallas59

Seizing the oligarchs’ and the Duma millionaires’ assets would do wonders in that regard, too.


78 posted on 03/02/2014 4:10:56 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Of course Poland supports the Bandera Nazis. They don’t want them back in Poland/Galicia.


79 posted on 03/02/2014 4:12:10 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Putin is less a danger to the world than the current nominal resident of 1600 Penn. Ave.


80 posted on 03/02/2014 4:12:27 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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