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Ukraine crisis: Angry Angela Merkel questions whether Putin is 'in touch with reality'
Telegraph ^ | 1:42PM GMT 03 Mar 2014 | Tony Paterson, Berlin

Posted on 03/03/2014 9:51:21 AM PST by DaveMSmith

Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel is reported to have become “really annoyed” about Russian President Vladimir Putin and has questioned whether he “was still in touch with reality.”

The German mass circulation Bild newspaper wrote on Monday that during a telephone conversation she held with US President Barack Obama to discuss the growing crisis in Ukraine she complained that Mr Putin was “living in another world.”

“She appears to have become really annoyed,” Bild remarked. The paper said it had gained inside information on the telephone exchange between the US and German leaders from American sources.

The two leaders roundly criticised Mr Putin in their conversation and agreed that Russia’s military intervention in Crimea was in violation of international law. A German government spokesman said that both stressed that it was important for the international community to respond to the crisis in unison.

Both were said to be in favour of sending an immediate fact finding mission to Ukraine and backed the idea of setting up of a contact group, possibly overseen by the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe, with the aim of ending the crisis through political dialogue.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; crimea; eu; eucartel; euimf; germany; merkel; obama; putin; russia; ukraine; ukrainecrisis; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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To: justa-hairyape
"You have to anticipate every possible move in diplomatic chess."

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Obama, Jarrett, Kerry....do they even have the ability to really take the diplomatic route? I sense they fly by the seats of their pants.

I really don't know what "flying by the seat of one's pants" means (!) but I'm trying to say that they don't anticipate (diplomatic chess) and when push comes to shove they haven't a clue.

Wonder what's the origin of "push comes to shove"?!

101 posted on 03/05/2014 9:14:30 AM PST by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: Dallas59
*snicker*

Wonder what her "tell" means!

102 posted on 03/05/2014 9:16:58 AM PST by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: DaveMSmith
Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel is reported to have become “really annoyed” about Russian President Vladimir Putin and has questioned whether he “was still in touch with reality.”

The same can be said for American voters and Obama. America isn't called "Obama-land" overseas for nothing. The rest of the world thinks we've lost our bloody minds.

103 posted on 03/05/2014 9:21:19 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: PGalt; Dallas59
LOL! Thanks for the pics. Wuzzzat some EU gang gestures?

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*snicker*

104 posted on 03/05/2014 9:27:05 AM PST by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: Starboard
Putin’s reality is his control over substantial flows of oil and gas, especially to Germany.

Yeah, and what is Putin going to do with all that oil and gas? Sell it to someone else, freeing up supplies elsewhere? Stop producing, throwing a big chunk of his population out of work and stopping cash flow to his oligarch buddies? The best he can do is cause a price spike just as the winter heating season is winding down. Putin's problem is that he essentially has a colonial economy based on extracting natural resources and selling them abroad. He needs foreign markets as much, if not more, than they need him.

105 posted on 03/05/2014 9:31:17 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: chasio649; Zathras
Germany is worried. This is bad.

You are correct....Don’t ask how i know.

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*snicker*

(But, what DO you know, and generally speaking, how DO you know it?)

Sorry, for asking; just call me "Whiskers" because I'm as curious as a cat and don't want to be the last to know stuff!

106 posted on 03/05/2014 9:33:58 AM PST by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: Mi-kha-el; demshateGod
"In fact, he should care. The Russian economy will suffer because of it. Russian GDP had dropped 30% already. The Ruble is going down. Today, the Russian markets lost >10% of value. The Russian economy cannot withstand occupation, sanctions and feeding hungry Crimeans and East Ukrainians (Russian-speaking population)."

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But, aren't war economies good economies.

Maybe that could be Putin's secondary reason for overtaking Crimea.

1. Annex Crimea

2. Stimulate faltering economy with a "war economy" mentality that might just come in handy should other countries decide to intervene with Crimea and other Putin actions.

107 posted on 03/05/2014 9:41:01 AM PST by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: potlatch
Thank heaven for open mikes.

If only we could get a lot more open mikes.

This "transparent" presidency isn't working out.

Wonder what Obama and Medved were fully saying and meaning. Maybe Crimea - maybe Crimea and other stuff.

The Obama/Medved full conversation would probably floor us (at the very least).

108 posted on 03/05/2014 9:51:13 AM PST by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: DaveMSmith

-— Both were said to be in favour of sending an immediate fact finding mission to Ukraine -—

What we really need to do is to send a blue ribbon commission on a fact-finding mission to find its butt with both hands.


109 posted on 03/05/2014 9:56:00 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: DaveMSmith

“Oh no! Not a fact-finding mission! Anything but that!”


110 posted on 03/05/2014 10:39:55 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Marguerite; DaveMSmith
“The paper said it had gained inside information on the telephone exchange”

How?

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Eyes and ears everywhere you go...probably got inside info with the German version of NSA.

111 posted on 03/05/2014 10:56:28 AM PST by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; DaveMSmith
Well Angie are you annoyed enough to agree to vote Pootey out of the G8? Since without Germany it can’t happen.

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Every time I see the name "Angie" I think of Angelina Jolie.

Where is the outrage in Hollywood that Crimea has been overtaken.

Where are the congressional hearings with Ben Affleck, Jolie, Sean Penn, Beyonce, JayZ, and of course, Dennis Rodman, etc?

112 posted on 03/05/2014 11:25:19 AM PST by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: hummingbird

“Where are the congressional hearings with Ben Affleck, Jolie, Sean Penn, Beyonce, JayZ, and of course, Dennis Rodman, etc? “

They are sitll trying to recover from post Oscar party hangovers. :-)


113 posted on 03/05/2014 11:33:17 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: DaveMSmith

114 posted on 03/05/2014 11:34:46 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: hummingbird

“Eyes and ears everywhere you go.”

A leaked phone call between the EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton and Estonian foreign minister Urmas Paet has revealed that the two discussed that the blame of the killing of civilian protesters in the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, is on the radical militiamen rather than the government police forces.

http://youtu.be/ZEgJ0oo3OA8

The Estonian foreign ministry confirmed the leaked conversation was accurate.
“So there is a stronger and stronger understanding that behind snipers it was not Yanukovych, it was somebody from the new coalition,” Urman Paet says...

Where we herd that before?

“Milosevici killed 100,000 Albanian Kosovars” (no bodies were found)
“Saddam Hussein has Weapons of Mass Destruction” (no WMD were found)
“Assad used chemical weapons on his own people “ and now

“Yanukovich sent snipers to kill peaceful demonstrators”

When will they stop fooling us?


115 posted on 03/05/2014 12:26:39 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite
Thanks for the info, Marguerite!

I'll be the first to say I don't know Jack about Crimea but it looks like its time to learn.

116 posted on 03/05/2014 1:18:41 PM PST by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
"They are sitll trying to recover from post Oscar party hangovers. :-)"

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*snicker*

117 posted on 03/05/2014 1:40:24 PM PST by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: hummingbird

You’re welcome :)


118 posted on 03/05/2014 1:49:01 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

I wouldn’t be dismissive of Russia’s energy advantage or underestimate Putin’s resolve to effectively re-constitute the old Soviet Union. Its a very complex geopolitical situation for sure, with a lot of moving parts, but EU is dependent on Russia for a lot of its energy. Putin could inflict a lot of pain on the continent and many of the EU countries are already in an economically weakened state.


119 posted on 03/05/2014 1:50:48 PM PST by Starboard
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To: All

“A leaked phone call between the EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton and Estonian foreign minister Urmas Paet has revealed that the two discussed that the blame of the killing of civilian protesters in the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, is on the radical militiamen rather than the government police forces.”

http://youtu.be/eXp-SiMXbnU

Olga Bogomolets, who gave the information to the Estonian minister, is a public figure and a respectable doctor, who has actually taken part in the Maidan movement from the onset and was tending to the wounded victims herself, along with other doctors. You can google her. She certainly cannot be suspected of being a Yanukovich sympathizer. She saw the wounded and the dead herself, and also showed photos to the Estonian minister, who, being not too crazy about Russia himself, wouldn’t go broadcasting the news if he believed it was just a rumour made of thin air.


120 posted on 03/05/2014 1:53:47 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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