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Teen self-defense expert expelled, jailed, because of a pocketknife
Daily Caller ^ | March 10, 2014 | Robby Soave

Posted on 03/11/2014 11:35:45 AM PDT by robowombat

An Ohio high school student training to be an EMT was charged with a felony and sent to jail for 13 days because police found a pocketknife during an unauthorized search of his car.

Jordan Wiser, an 18-year-old student at Ashtabula County Technical and Career Campus in Jefferson, Ohio, is an EMT trainee with a passion for self-defense and public service. He aspires to be a firefighter, and is a certified emergency vehicle operator. Wiser is comfortable with weapons, and posts Youtube videos of himself talking about law enforcement, self-defense and video games.

Apparently, school administrators caught wind of the videos, which led them to believe that Wiser was in possession of weapons, according to The Huffington Post.

Police searched Wiser’s car without his permission, discovering a pocketknife, stun gun and airsoft guns. Airsoft guns fire non-lethal, plastic pellets, and are used in sports games.

“I didn’t think anything of the Airsoft guns,” said Wiser in a statement. “Our school is a technical school, and I was planning on meeting with my Airsoft team after school. My stun gun was locked in the glove box, and the knife was in my EMT medical vest. I bought it at K-Mart and have it as part of my first responder kit for cutting seatbelts.”

The pocketknife violates the school district’s zero tolerance policy against bringing weapons onto school property — a class 5 felony.

For his crime, Wiser was carted off to jail for 13 days.

He is worried that a conviction will destroy his chance at a career in public service. Indeed, he has already been expelled from high school and technical school, and had his participation in the U.S. Army’s Future Soldiers program terminated.

“I won’t even be able to be a janitor. I’m 18 years old, and this is going to ruin my entire life,” he said.

Prosecutors aren’t backing down, however.

“We charge [people] with everything that we feel they are guilty of, and in this case, he is guilty of a felony,” said Ashtabula County assistant prosecutor Harold Specht in a statement.

As a condition of his release from jail, he was given an ankle monitor and ordered to remove all weapons from his house. Most curiously of all, he was told to have no further contact with his grandfather, who is dying of cancer.

“The one judge I went in front of told me to remove any firearms from my parents’ house and put them at my grandpa’s house,” said Wiser. “The next judge freaked out about me even knowing what a gun is and put a no contact order against me and my grandparents. My grandfather is dying right now, and I am not allowed within 500 feet of him.”

The school district did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ashtabulacounty; banglist; intolerance; jordanwiser; travesty; zerotolerance
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The late Sam Francis defined this sort of thing as 'anarcho-tyranny.

The following quote from Wikipedia is an accurate description of what this man is being subjected to and what the mostly white middle class is being targeted with.

Samuel Francis argued that the problems of managerial state extend to issues of crime and justice. In 1992, he introduced the word “anarcho-tyranny” into the paleocon vocabulary. He once defined it this way: “we refuse to control real criminals (that's the anarchy) so we control the innocent (that's the tyranny).” Francis argued that this situation extends across the U.S. and Europe. While the government functions normally, violent crime remains a constant, creating a climate of fear (anarchy). He says that “laws that are supposed to protect ordinary citizens against ordinary criminals” routinely go unenforced, even though the state is “perfectly capable” of doing so. While this problem rages on, government elites concentrate their interests on law-abiding citizens. In fact, Middle America winds up on the receiving end of both anarchy and tyranny.

1 posted on 03/11/2014 11:35:45 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Man. I’m glad we didn’t have this insanity when I was a Prosecutor.


2 posted on 03/11/2014 11:36:49 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: robowombat

“Zero Tolerance”: For people who don’t have common sense.


3 posted on 03/11/2014 11:39:52 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Well, they will argue the internet comments were probable cause, which, of course, would be ludicrous.

He should sue for defamation and violation of his privacy rights.


4 posted on 03/11/2014 11:40:16 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: RIghtwardHo

“Man. I’m glad we didn’t have this insanity when I was a Prosecutor.”

Man. I’m glad we didn’t have this insanity when I was in high school. I’d probably just be getting out.


5 posted on 03/11/2014 11:40:28 AM PDT by moovova
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To: robowombat

Coming soon:
You gave police or Obamacomiessaaaar dirty look = 10 years in Siberia.


6 posted on 03/11/2014 11:42:23 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: robowombat

When is this crap gonna stop? How much more of this sh*t must we endure?


7 posted on 03/11/2014 11:46:11 AM PDT by szweig (HYHEY!! (Have You Had Enough Yet))
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To: robowombat

It’s hard to get past the rage over this brutally sadistic injustice, but I would point out that the legal mechanism to carry out this atrocity depends on presuming this young man was acting in a corporate capacity. FWIW.


8 posted on 03/11/2014 11:47:00 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: robowombat
“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”

― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged (1957)

9 posted on 03/11/2014 11:48:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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This is fascism. Being practiced today, in the once-great (but no more) USA.


10 posted on 03/11/2014 11:48:36 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: robowombat

His lawyers must be really bad.

Is this satire?


11 posted on 03/11/2014 11:56:03 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: robowombat

This appears to be a good case for jury nullification.


12 posted on 03/11/2014 12:00:21 PM PDT by scripter
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To: robowombat

Sue the school district and police organizations, and every person individually. Sue them all and let God sort them out.


13 posted on 03/11/2014 12:02:11 PM PDT by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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This is satire, right? Right?


14 posted on 03/11/2014 12:03:28 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: I want the USA back

This once great country is small, bitchy and mean. The Byzantine Empire fell because the citizens didn’t think it was worth fighting for. Well, i can barely imagine the scenario that would motivate me to again bear arms for this country. I would happily stand aside.


15 posted on 03/11/2014 12:03:42 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Are you a workign attorney now?

If so... are you helping our side with any issues?


16 posted on 03/11/2014 12:05:06 PM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: robowombat
If I were his defense, I'd say Yes, it is a weapon. and then proceed to cite the Ohio state constitution:
§ 1.01 Inalienable Rights (1851)
All men are, by nature, free and independent, and have certain inalienable rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and seeking and obtaining happiness and safety.

§ 1.04 Bearing arms; standing armies; military powers (1851)
The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be kept up; and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power.

Then I'd look into the laws against malicious prosecution and civil rights violations and go on the offensive. :D

17 posted on 03/11/2014 12:06:07 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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“We charge [people] with everything that we feel they are guilty of, and in this case, he is guilty of a felony,”

If I were the defense attorney, this statement would be the key to getting the case dismissed.

And the prosecutor stripped of his job.

[for the feeble-minded: he violates the presumption of innocence]


18 posted on 03/11/2014 12:06:12 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: robowombat; supercat
"As a condition of his release from jail, he was given an ankle monitor and ordered to remove all weapons from his house. Most curiously of all, he was told to have no further contact with his grandfather, who is dying of cancer.

“The one judge I went in front of told me to remove any firearms from my parents’ house and put them at my grandpa’s house,” said Wiser. “The next judge freaked out about me even knowing what a gun is and put a no contact order against me and my grandparents. My grandfather is dying right now, and I am not allowed within 500 feet of him.”

What a travesty. Unthinkable. As Ayn Rand wrote (posted above).

This injustice cannot stand. What recourse does this responsible hard-working young man have?

19 posted on 03/11/2014 12:12:22 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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“I won’t even be able to be a janitor. I’m 18 years old, and this is going to ruin my entire life,” he said.

Better to find out now what job his commissar's planned for him to do. No use wasting time pursuing a passion when you can be assigned to a job that the community needs done.

-PJ

20 posted on 03/11/2014 12:15:52 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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