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5-alarm fire burning at high-rise building on 4th Street near China Basin in San Francisco
abclocal.go.com ^ | 3/11/14

Posted on 03/11/2014 6:19:03 PM PDT by GSWarrior

SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- A 5-alarm fire is burning at a high-rise building under construction on 4th Street near China Basin in San Francisco. The blaze was reported at 4:56 p.m. at Fourth and China Basin streets. The building is reportedly apartments that were set to open in a few months. The property that is burning does not belong to the nearby University of California at San Francisco, a UCSF spokeswoman said. San Francisco Fire Department spokesperson Mindy Talmadge says there is a lot of radiant heat coming from the burning building. Firefighters have decided to pull back from the fire due to concerns about collapse. Shortly after 6 p.m., part of the building appeared to collapse in on itself.

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To: exit82

Several years ago we had a large fire in a partially completed retirement community, just days before the sprinklers were set to be activated. I beleive it was ruled suspicious.


41 posted on 03/11/2014 7:10:46 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Doomonyou

San Francisco is know for it’s fires....


42 posted on 03/11/2014 7:12:43 PM PDT by maxsand
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To: GSWarrior

5-alarm fire in San francesspool? hmmm....

sounds Ike a great start


43 posted on 03/11/2014 7:14:25 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Doomonyou

On the left it appears to be some store of steel covering the roof. Possibly used wood to temporally close in some portions of of the building.


44 posted on 03/11/2014 7:15:32 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Doomonyou

Yikes. That’s a tough fire to fight.


45 posted on 03/11/2014 7:19:07 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: exit82
I don’t recognize the green cladding material either.

Probably Densglass. Exterior sheathing part of the one-hour (or two hour) requirements for fire resistivity.

Wood frame buildings can go to 4 or 5 stories depending on where you are building.

46 posted on 03/11/2014 7:19:10 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Doomonyou

Yes. Guess that would be covered with a stucco material eventually.

These buildings look to be about 12 stories.


47 posted on 03/11/2014 7:23:42 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: GSWarrior

hmmm... thats right next to where I use to work, 3rd and Townsend.

and yes, it was literally a sh*thole. every night when leaving the building I’d have to step over bums in the doorways...and their piles of feces. yes, feces... right next to where they slept. dogs aren’t that filthy.

literally the dirtiest place I’ve lived/worked

burn it to the ground and bury in cement as far as I’m concerned.

hell, nuke it from orbit ... it’s the only way to be sure


48 posted on 03/11/2014 7:24:39 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: matt04

My guess its just a built up roof system, A lot of time they are painted silver to reflect heat. I was involved in a construction litigation case on a 16 floor mixed- use complex (Commercial on the ground floor, apartments above) right across from AT&T or PacBell, or what ever they call the place the Giants call home. Anyway, It had a silver colored build up roof system.


49 posted on 03/11/2014 7:26:00 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: vette6387; PAR35
“That passes for a high rise in San Francisco? There are buildings more than twice that tall in Frisco, Texas.”

100-ft high (roughly) buildings tend to fall down violently even during relatively light earthquakes. The typical ground movement couples with the typical building moment and destruction ensues within a few seconds. Earthquake labs and video of actual earthquakes confirmed this resonance phenomenon with a horrifying reality.

50 posted on 03/11/2014 7:29:18 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: ssaftler

They can buy carbon offsets.


51 posted on 03/11/2014 7:30:37 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: matt04

Steel buildings collapse rapidly in fire.


52 posted on 03/11/2014 7:33:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

You’re not at DU!


53 posted on 03/11/2014 7:36:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: caww

Wow.


54 posted on 03/11/2014 7:37:37 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: no-s

“100-ft high (roughly) buildings tend to fall down violently even during relatively light earthquakes.”

The South of Market area ( where this building was being built) is all fill. When the dug for the BART underground, they ran into sailing ship hulls from the Gold Rush. And all of the structures that fell down in the Marina were victims of your thesis, plus they all had single car garages as the first level that were not adequately braced laterally. The Marina is also ancient fill. The bigger problem with relatively short structures is that a lot of them have been either stick built, or are of masonry construction. Tall steel buildings react much better to earthquake stimuli. But we have learned how to build buildings in this environment. Massive foundations and foundation to building connections that allow movement in a quake have kept our buildings standing.


55 posted on 03/11/2014 7:41:44 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Jet Jaguar

Yes..it was no easy fire to fight that’s for sure...especially since there wasn’t sprinkler systems yet installed and the building still under construction.

Pretty large complex as well..


56 posted on 03/11/2014 7:45:16 PM PDT by caww
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To: Doomonyou; exit82
Wood frame buildings can go to 4 or 5 stories depending on where you are building.

Much higher than that. Article in Popular Science, March 2014 about wood skyscrapers. Swedish authorities gave the go-ahead for building a 34-story wood tower in Stockholm. A 30-story wood tower is to be built in Vancouver. Chicago wants to build a 42-story wood tower. The new technology says it's actually safer than a steel framed building.

57 posted on 03/11/2014 8:00:47 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: PapaNew
Used to be a depressed area.

True, but my wife loved the discount clothing stores that inhabited the old decrepit warehouses before the 1989 earthquake. I always told her we should buy land there, that it might gain value someday. It probably went up one-hundred times its value over the last forty years. Wish I bought land there back then.

58 posted on 03/11/2014 8:04:30 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Irish Eyes

ELF Earth Liberation Front. Radicalized greenpeacers doing this between whale wars.


59 posted on 03/11/2014 8:06:18 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: dragnet2

What missing airplane?


60 posted on 03/11/2014 8:08:25 PM PDT by BuddaBudd (F U B O)
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