Posted on 03/15/2014 12:24:23 PM PDT by TitansAFC
Thanks.
Correction: change “FROR” to “FOR” near bottom comment.
Bye.
You mean this is too much for you to respond too?
“””You think gay marriage for the military and federal employment and immigration, and abortion on military bases and homosexuals in the military are “state” issues?”””
> When we are forced to pay for other peoples birth control,forced to subsidize women who have out of wedlock children those are not just social but fiscal issues. The two go together.<
You’re exactly right. And these social issues cost a lot of damn money payed for by those who work. Welfare, EBT cards, Obama phones, birth control, abortions, freaking Obamacare, all of this crap and more are social issues that have bankrupted this country. One can’t be fixed without fixing the other.
Maybe the republicans should learn to compromise more. I mean, not one voted for Obamacare. Couldn’t the repubs have had at least a few voted? This really makes the repubs look partisan and mean. You know, why cant we all just get along? </s>
Every conservative, every libertarian, every constitutionalist should have the same answer to these things.
We have a 10th Amendment. It leaves things not explicitly delegated to the Federal government to the states.
End of discussion.
Hank
It does come across that many here and on the Right think that central government is somehow our moral friend which is astonishing when we look at the record. However, I hold out hope that enough will get it. One thing that will help is educating them about the clear alternative: the free market economy.
For future reference, I'll have to compile a list, but I'll just take this opportunity to put down here at least a partial list of the unconstitutional, excessive central government's parade of horribles. The federal government is either an influencer, sponsor, or enforcer or both of such things as:
- sodomy "education" for kindergarteners
- indoctrination (not education) of children in government schools away from traditional American values and toward perverse ideologies
- sodomy "rights" (a legal oxymoron)
- abortion on demand
- anti-family values
- anti-Christian values
- separating Americans from one another & creating "class" dissension
- creating dependency, not self reliance
The central government is against the Constitution and individual freedom and creates poverty by taking money from the people and wasting it. The Dept of HHR, for example, has a TRILLION DOLLAR budget and it is a waste.
Add to this list if you think of other stuff, I know there's a lot. I'll keep it for reference.
You’re a broken record. I’ve already said I hadn’t given your issue much thought. You answer as usual with an attack. I ask you want do you think. All I get is more attack. What a waste.
What is there to think about, it’s abortion on federal land, and gay marriage and homosexuals being treated equally in the military, federal employment and immigration law, at the federal level.
Seriously, as a libertarian you never thought about libertarianism?
Simple problem, simple solution. Stop the welfare checks. If people have to be responsible for themselves then the social issues take care of themselves. Piece of cake.
When do we get started?
How about this, before you give the left all the social liberalism you guys want, first stop the welfare checks and social programs.
Ditto.
Mutually exclusive don't you think?
The boss was pulling your leg Titan. Wise up.
Fixed it for you.
You know what I was in High School in the early 50's and what you say will always happen. When it did it was a shameful thing.
Cart before the horse there Peter.
Never, as far as I can tell. But there are people running all over the board screaming that Cruz betrayed America but can never express WHAT he did. Other than mixing him up with Rubio.
Yep - the social issues are a diversion and a symptom, not a problem that can be effectively targeted. The Left knows this and the Right seems to have no idea. We will flail about and insist that a candidate has spittle flying from his lips, while ranting about how we need to take care of social issues, or he isn't pure enough in that regard. IOW, we demand qualities that are not going to be helpful if we want to move back toward a constitutional representative republic - the Left will continue to win as we attack the wrong targets.
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