Posted on 03/16/2014 3:43:42 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
True, I just used perpendicular as the extreme nosedive to differentiate from it pancaking in.
I asked a similar question and got an answer from another freeper... I'll find it and be back in a sec...
I agree with your friend that this plane is a very good delivery system. I am watching the actions of the high ranking members in DC. If patterns change and people start avoiding DC we have a real threat.
What about having this fact added yo this story.
WASHINGTON — First lady Michelle Obama will travel to China this month with her daughters, Malia and Sasha, and her mother, Marian Robinson, for a trip built on the theme of education, her office announced Monday.
The March 19-26 trip will include a visit with her Chinese counterpart, Peng Liyuan, who is a popular folk singer and the second wife of Chinese President Xi Jinping.
The trip will be Michelle Obama’s first to China. Her itinerary includes stops in the Chinese capital, Beijing, on March 20-23; Xian on March 24; and Chengdu on March 25-26.
ping
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3133545/posts?page=162#162
To: GOPJ
Hypoxia (oxygen starvation) will lead first to unconsciousness then without oxygen, cardiac arrest and death is probably 2-3 minutes after the cabin atmosphere equals the 45,000’ pressure.
Essentially it’s a suffocation death. At least ya pass out first. You are trying to breathe, but it’s not doing any good.
Cabin heat is controlled separately from cockpit heat. The flight crew controls it from the flight deck. Same for the cargo hold. Cargo has been ruined and pets killed by crews who forget to maintain pressure and temp in the cargo hold.
Freezing would take a bit longer.
162 posted on Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:21:11 PM by Blueflag
Another blueflag reply:
The passenger compartment air masks are not actually pressurized. They do enrich the O2 in the mask, but do not overcome the lack of cabin pressure. Your lungs actually do not suck in air, rather your shifting diaphragm allows atmospheric pressure to force air into your lungs. In the actual physics of gases, there is only pressure, not ‘suck’.
What’s the point? At 45,000 feet, the atmosphere is too thin to force enough air into your lungs, even enriched with 02 in the mask, to keep a human alive. You must have a pressurized mask that covers your mouth and nose, and has sufficient differential pressure and PUSHES air into your lungs. The flight crew up front have that.
Rising to 45,000 feet, depressuring the plane? Effective way to kill everyone not in the flight deck with a mask.
FWIW, you can also freeze ‘em to death in the back as well. It’s often 60 degrees below zero outside at that altitude. Just sayin’
“Why do they need this plane to do that mission?
Don’t all the arab airlines have dozens of them?”
That’s exactly what I was about to say.
China is one of Iran’s best allies and oil buyer. Notably they agree on one thing, they hate the petro-dollar. Iran will sell oil in anything but the US dollar (preferably gold) and China is happy to buy it all on those terms.
Who Iran be involved in a plot to hijack a plane when 2/3rds of the passengers are Chinese?
No way.
...not unless they really think the Madhi’s return is eminent. (ie: the twelfth imam is coming out of the cave)
“If anyone wanted to steal a plane then why not steal a FedEx or UPS cargo plane? They are probably a lot easier to steal than a commercial airliner and no passengers to deal with.”
Great point, but I guess it’s possible that a particular passenger, or passengers, was/were the target all along?
And of course, no elections in November...
The other day this was discussed but there was too many folks that could not understand the limitation of those masks, so I do what I usually do, I just sit back and lurk and let them duke it out like a birther thread.
Now what actually worries me is whoever took this, has it is capable of spoofing it enough to completely fool the Russians into thinking its a US military jet “disguised” as a civilian just so it can nuke them?
The ROP could have some goal of making the US and Russian start nuking each other, just a loose theory.
With millions flying everyday in the US, security wait times would not be minutes or hours, but days ...
I think he's overlooking the fact that there are the entire countries of India and Pakistan between Bangladesh and Afghanistan. I wouldn't call that "very close". That's like saying, "I think he flew the plane to Vancouver, Canada. It's very close to Cuba."
Further: does Iran have any 777s in its airline fleet? If not, perhaps it was taken to steal the communications tech, which after research could be hacked to bad effect on other 777s - after all, Iran is credited with taking control of one of the US’s most advanced stealth drones. Seems like there ought to be easier ways to do this, but then, who knows what Iran might be thinking.
As for a likely target, after Israel, and before the US, Iran has said it intends to destroy the Vatican ...
The Madhi will only return with the scent of the blood of millions ... Iran’s Twelver leadership has long said they will encourage that return sooner than later.
Iran - no way to deliver a nuke...
Couldn’t the Iranians just take a jet from one of their airports while it sat overnight?
Answer: We'd take Iran back to the middle ages.
Question: What would happen if a small band of terrorists hit New York or Israel and killed millions of citizens??
Answer: Obama would be picking cards with names of terrorists on them for assassination.That's why any State involvement would stay hidden.
Thanks Jack Hydrazine.
CIA suspends chief of Iran operations over workplace issues
[IOW, he hasn’t supplied the rationalization for Obama’s surrender to the mullahcracy]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3134051/posts
MH370 Mystery: Remembering Malaysia’s Role In 9/11, And In Other Islamic Terror Plots
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3134004/posts
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.