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The EPA is charging $75,000/day over a private citizenís pond, but donít you worry about their..
Hotair.com ^ | 3/15/2014 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 03/17/2014 7:10:57 AM PDT by rktman

...... they decided to rewrite the rules to more clearly define exactly what bodies of water are within their regulatory power — and a bunch of lawmakers, lobbies, businesses, and private citizens are worried that the end result is going to be yet another massive EPA power grab that will make big government an even more pervasive and retarding for in commercial activity and on private property.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agenda21; control; dhs; epa; irs; privateproperty; propertyrights; un21; unitednations21
Does Klamath basin ring a bell? They WILL tell you what's best for you whether it is or not. Good luck to Andy and his family in Wyoming. When (if ever) is some local sheriff going to arrest these clowns? Denial of a new MRAP for their local office keeping them from acting? As far as I can recall, he/she is the top law enforcement person in the/a county and can deny access to these clowns.
1 posted on 03/17/2014 7:10:57 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Come and take it!


2 posted on 03/17/2014 7:22:13 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: rktman

A recruiting ad for the National Guard ran on KFI for a couple weeks.

Main thrust of the pitch was helping in case of disasters.

BUT one very scary line about what the NG will be doing...”protect the wetlands”

Protecting them from who? The property owners?


3 posted on 03/17/2014 7:22:31 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: rktman

Evidently these clowns never took Physics 101:

ACTION PRODUCES REACTION, equal and opposing

SIMPLE


4 posted on 03/17/2014 7:23:08 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: rktman

Private property rights...we no longer haz them.

The EPA is perhaps the most corrupt and power-drunk agency in the world. Shameless, cowardly, traitorous and un-American. May they rot in hell, one and all.

Indeed, can’t the state and local officials do something about this?


5 posted on 03/17/2014 7:24:10 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: rktman

bump


6 posted on 03/17/2014 7:24:48 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: Mich Patriot

Property rights ?

Try mining the coal on your property without a federal permit.


7 posted on 03/17/2014 7:26:46 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: rktman
What the link doesn't elaborate on is that the family had a permit to build the 'stock pond' from the State of Wyoming, not just 'followed the rules'.

What no one I've seen asking is:

How did the EPA find out about this?

8 posted on 03/17/2014 7:30:08 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

Pardon my grammar...heading out the door...


9 posted on 03/17/2014 7:31:06 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

A guy posted something to me about some things going on in Kansas where “they” use google to look for “new ponds” then backtrack looking for permits.


10 posted on 03/17/2014 7:33:24 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: rktman

They are clever. The end goal is complete takeover of private property. They can’t do that just now, so they take a little here a little there. The property tax confiscates a percentage each year, they take over bodies of water by declaring them wetlands, they destroy your privacy by flying drones overhead.


11 posted on 03/17/2014 7:35:28 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: I want the USA back

The end goal is complete takeover of private property.

Correct. This is also why they insist on putting Silly Circles (roundabouts) everywhere; it puts more land under govt control.

As far as the pond though, libs feel it is ok for them to re-write the rules retroactively.


12 posted on 03/17/2014 7:45:23 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

How about gold?

My property has been turned into a Carolina Healsplitter sanctuary (small fresh water calm deemed environmentally challenged) by the Fish and Wildlife service, and I have no recourse.


13 posted on 03/17/2014 7:51:05 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Don’t feel like people who don’t have endangered species on their property are being left out.

Certain spots on Oregon beaches are being closed to the public because a non-endangered species is declared endangered because it is not there.


14 posted on 03/17/2014 7:58:19 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Hard metal mining has been relatively unaffected by reclamation/soil saving laws until recently. Coal was federalized by Jimmah Cahtah in 1977.
15 posted on 03/17/2014 8:05:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Mich Patriot

fIND out a list of all the EPA officers` names. phones and addresses and dump garbage and trash on their lawns.


16 posted on 03/17/2014 8:06:54 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Cold Heart
They tried that here on the Alabama river. The powers that be decided that there is an Alabama sturgeon that should be in the river. Supposedly there have been TWO of the d**n things caught over the years. It looks just like the Mississippi sturgeon. They stopped dredging and commercial use of the river. Of course the folks that live along or use the river for fishing and boating are actually happy to have the river to themselves.
If some good ol’ boy catches one of the critters, no one will ever know. The officials have no clue what is out there in the wilds. They finally had to add a gator season on the river because people kept running into huge gators. For years the wild life people said there couldn't be a breeding population because it was too far north. They blamed the sitings on gators that people had turned loose.
17 posted on 03/17/2014 8:13:20 AM PDT by Himyar
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To: logi_cal869

We’ll take care of your grammar while you’re gone.
Does she like to knit?


18 posted on 03/17/2014 8:15:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Mich Patriot
"Private property rights...we no longer haz them."

Private property rights died when our forefathers accepted property taxes. Try not paying your property taxes for a year or two and you will find out who owns your property and what it's true worth is.

19 posted on 03/17/2014 8:32:31 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: rktman

I have 3 ponds on my place. Two were built by the MUD to aid in flood control.

If the EPA wants to control mine, I will breach the dams and let the down stream deal with it.


20 posted on 03/17/2014 8:49:20 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: hadaclueonce

LOL! Then they’ll just file pollution charges against you. Ain’t no way out.


21 posted on 03/17/2014 8:54:51 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Hard metal mining has been relatively unaffected by reclamation/soil saving laws until recently. Coal was federalized by Jimmah Cahtah in 1977.

Well, since 1995, if I spill sediment (dirt) from runoff into the creek, I can be fined horrendously and even sent to prison. Most of the deposit is within 100 feet from the creek. Some of the deposit is only 35 feet deep! The govt. has essentially declared my property a Healsplitter sanctuary, with no compensation whatsoever. The birdwatchers in Asheville with the National Fish and Wildlife Dept. have jurisdiction, and I pay the taxes.

22 posted on 03/17/2014 10:05:37 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Curiously, the Interior Department’s original rules prevented mountain top removal where the top of a hillside is blasted off and allowed to fall into a “head of hollow” fill, usually, a creek or stream.

Coal miners in Appalachia are continuing this practice today.
That’s more than a little dirt...


23 posted on 03/17/2014 10:22:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: I want the USA back
...they destroy your privacy by flying drones overhead.

That makes it important to learn who the drone controllers are, where they work, where they live and what their travel habits are. At the appropriate time they can be made to disappear. Same for those who GIVE THEM THEIR ORDERS.

24 posted on 03/17/2014 10:29:32 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: rktman

Why not publicize the names of the EPA officials that are directly involved with this idiocy? These government dictators are making policy with no personal repercussions. If their names were exposed to the public, they would have to be more responsible with their decisions because public attitude towards them would be affected. These public officials need to have their families affected by their decisions and uncaring actions.


25 posted on 03/17/2014 10:39:51 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: MrB

LOL.

I’ll ask her when I join her...hopefully in more than a decade or 2.


26 posted on 03/17/2014 12:20:43 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I am just one guy. Don’t have deep pockets to hire enviro lawyer, submit an EIS etc.

Do you know anyone who can operate a front end loader with night vision goggles?


27 posted on 03/17/2014 12:28:09 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Sounds like you need the services of a geologist familiar with mining requirements in your area. If you can't afford a full time rock hound, there are consulting companies that can do the permits.
28 posted on 03/17/2014 12:34:54 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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