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To cheers and tears, defiant Putin sets out conservative agenda
Reuters ^ | 03/18/2014 | Timothy Heritage

Posted on 03/18/2014 10:53:20 AM PDT by goldstategop

(Reuters) - To thunderous applause, cheers and even tears, Vladimir Putin delivered a fiercely patriotic speech on Tuesday that laid claim to Crimea and set out a vision of a Greater Russia that could define his third term as President.

In a 47-minute address to his loyal political and business elite that was interrupted by clapping at least 30 times, Putin described a deeply conservative world view in which Russia hankered after land lost when the Soviet Union collapsed.

Presenting himself as the guardian of the nation and of Russians everywhere, the former KGB spy spat defiance at the West and charted an inward-looking course that underlined the shift in his thinking since he first rose to power 14 years ago.

"In the hearts and minds of people, Crimea has always been and remains an inseparable part of Russia," Putin said in a passionate address, delivered from a lectern in the Kremlin's glittering St George Hall two days after Crimea voted in a disputed referendum to become part of Russia.

Two years after mass protests in Moscow and other big cities that briefly shook his grip on power, this was the Putin of old - confident, defiant and steely, and, for many Russians, at his best in a crisis.

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KEYWORDS: communist; conservatism; crimea; presidentputin; putin; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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To: skeeter

“...Some cannot understand the concept of grudging respect... Yes, Putin is our enemy. He wishes us harm...”

Precisely. He’s NOT “the Good Guy”. Yet, his own people seem to have a lot of respect for making them “feel” strong and respected again (like Hitler did with Germany and that didn’t work out too well for them ultimately).

It’s not real hard to understand.

But he’s no “Russian Reagan” for sure. That’s not a good comparison; it’s only apropos insofar as Putin loves his own country and wants it to remain strong, like Ronaldus Magnus did for us.

I suspect Reagan would have looked at him as a dangerous adversary that would need to be constantly watched and checked, rook for rook and pawn for pawn.

Much like he did with Gorbachev.


61 posted on 03/18/2014 11:45:35 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Agreed. The similarities with Reagan end at (his apparent) love of country.


62 posted on 03/18/2014 11:47:12 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: goldstategop
Let’s put the Obama-loving MSM on knee pads in front of Putin.

They would probably need Depends more than knee pads.

63 posted on 03/18/2014 11:47:56 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: lodi90
How many kids has Obama droned to death? How many Christians have Uncle Scam’s Al Qaeda allies slaughtered in Syria?

That’s a straw argument and false equivalence

I was asking questions not making an argument. I was also not equating Putin with Bathhouse Barry. Barry and his Globalist puppet masters are far, far worse than Putin.

64 posted on 03/18/2014 11:51:45 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: skeeter

As I said earlier upthread - people out here see this guy and contrast him with what WE are currently temporarily employing.

It’s pathetic.

And yes, the use of the word “conservative” anywhere near Putin is absurd - but deliberate.


65 posted on 03/18/2014 11:52:05 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: goldstategop

To repeat a comment I made on another thread:

Too bad Obama doesn’t feel about America the way Putin feels about Russia.


66 posted on 03/18/2014 11:57:06 AM PDT by Qiviut (It's hard to be a donk if you're sane & it's hard to be a pubbie if you have any integrity.)
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To: goldstategop

I don’t think Putin is our buddy, but he is not stupid. He is gaining ground by taking what made America great and usurping it to replace us with them.

Obama admin who basically apes what the Soviets used to be is the perfect vehicle for Vlad to replace us with him.

Ugly stuff here, but the US made the mistake of electing the very people to bring us down. Right now, the US is divided. The bad guys act like the good guys and Putin knows that.

What made America great is what Putin is going to take as his own. In his mind it worked. As long as America has become the Soviet Union and he becomes America, he wins.

No wonder he is laughing.


67 posted on 03/18/2014 11:59:39 AM PDT by dforest
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To: goldstategop
The Russian Ronald Reagan.

An interesting way to understand him, his popularity and the Russians who support him.

He, like Reagan did for US, has done much to restore a badly damaged Russian self image and restore some of the Russians' lost national self esteem.

He's not necessarily a friend, and given what he and possibly the Chinese almost did to US in 2008 via Fanny and Freddie, he's more likely a foe.

On the other hand, I can't blame him for taking advantage of our utter fiscal insanity for some payback.

If we actually believed our self expressed ideals and values, founding documents, etc. and lived by and up to the "In God We Trust" motto, I would be more upset by 2008 and now.

But we don't. And until we do, I'm more inclined to accept that we've earned whatever nasty thing this way comes, including the one known as "obama" and all that flows from him.

68 posted on 03/18/2014 12:13:16 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: WhiskeyX

A great country IS feared.

Have you read Machiavelli? If not, you should.

Fear works far better in international relations than love.


69 posted on 03/18/2014 12:15:21 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
....but being a starry-eyed liberal wet dreamer isn't one of them.

Well, he does believe in state/govt control of industry & media.

70 posted on 03/18/2014 12:16:39 PM PDT by gdani
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

I don’t defend aggression against any country. We should certainly oppose Russia getting license to annex entire countries.

I believe the West delivered the message.


71 posted on 03/18/2014 12:17:09 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: GBA

Putin’s remarks are obviously racis.


72 posted on 03/18/2014 12:19:55 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( The Republican Party is very sick . Hold all contributions until we see who picks up the patient..)
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To: NFHale
This guy, at the very least, loves his own country. No denying that.

Yeah, if presiding over a thoroughly corrupt nation & imprisoning & killing your political foes is your kinda thing.

73 posted on 03/18/2014 12:20:13 PM PDT by gdani
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To: goldstategop
We should certainly oppose Russia getting license to annex entire countries.

So just Eastern Ukraine is okay? How much of a country with internationally recognized borders can he annex before you object?

74 posted on 03/18/2014 12:23:46 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Such sentiments you have expressed are why you are dismissed as a propagandist for totalitarian regimes.


75 posted on 03/18/2014 12:24:39 PM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: goldstategop
I don’t defend aggression against any country.

From where I (and a lot of others) sit, that's exactly what you're doing.

76 posted on 03/18/2014 12:26:59 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: goldstategop

Fortunately, all that propagandistic vomit of all you apologists, joe palookas, or useful idiots, whichever you are, counts for nothing in the world out there.


77 posted on 03/18/2014 12:29:56 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: goldstategop
Putin described a deeply conservative world view in which Russia hankered after land lost when the Soviet Union collapsed.

Presenting himself as the guardian of the nation and of Russians everywhere, the former KGB spy spat defiance at the West and charted an inward-looking course that underlined the shift in his thinking since he first rose to power 14 years ago.

Didn't we see another leader back in the 30s present himself as the guardian of Germans everywhere (Sudetenland).
If I remember my history , during this period the US was also in the process of defunding the military..... How did that work out?

78 posted on 03/18/2014 12:40:50 PM PDT by RedStateGuyTrappedinCT
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To: RedStateGuyTrappedinCT
If I remember my history , during this period the US was also in the process of defunding the military

Not really. Defense spending dropped to about 1-2% of GDP immediately after WW1, and gradually but pretty steadily increased to 2-3% of GDP in the 193os, with a couple of upward spikes around 1932 and 1935.

79 posted on 03/18/2014 12:56:14 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: goldstategop
The Russian Ronald Reagan. We miss the Gipper!

Unbelievable. You just spun him in his grave.

80 posted on 03/18/2014 12:56:58 PM PDT by FreeReign
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