Skip to comments.Scientists believe they know where MH370 crashed
Posted on 03/27/2014 5:13:45 PM PDT by Star Traveler
A research team at University of Western Australia also believes the cabin is in once piece, improving the chances the black box could be found.
Scientists believe they know where Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 crashed into the ocean and that the cabin sank in one piece. The research by the University of Western Australia, using meteorological and ocean-current data alongside the British analysis from data pings recorded by UK firm Inmarsat, has determined the point of impact and the movements of debris in the weeks following the crash.
A fresh satellite sighting of 300 floating objects ranging in size from seven to 49 feet about 1,680 miles from Perth in the southern Indian Ocean was reported by Thailand yesterday, tallying with previous sightings by French and Chinese satellites. Thai satellite images show objects about 120 miles from a debris field of 122 objects captured by a French satellite on Sunday.
Professor Charitha Pattiaratchi, the scientist who oversaw the research, said that a failure to spot buoyant objects that originated inside the plane indicated that the cabin probably remained intact as it sank into the sea. This would improve the chances that the black box survived without significant damage in the depths below the crash site.
I think the way the plane crashed, a lot of the debris has been kept intact inside the plane, said Professor Charitha Pattiaratchi, from the universitys oceans institute. If the plane broke up, we should see a lot more debris floating around. We should have seen smaller bits of lifejacket and seats, things which are going to float.
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Boffins. Usually these UK papers all them boffins.
Just out: Like other airlines, Malaysian Airlines gave this aircraft a name. It is called ‘Waldo’.
Th black box usually isn’t in the cabin. Not sure about 777 but IIRC most BB equipment is located toward the tail because that has a better chance of surviving impact.
Scientists believe in global warming too...
They don't seem to have enough ships in the area.
Planes can't stay in the area or pick things out of the water.
If a plane can get a photo by today's standards, you would know what it was since the aerial photos are so detailed.
All they have are satellite photos from over a hundred miles away.
Photos from aircraft hundreds of feet away would be very clear and could be greatly enlarged.
Let hope they get some soon.-tom
If this is true wouldn’t that mean there are probably human remains inside the cabin?
It would seem so ...
And how would he know the way the plane crashed??? Was he there???
He's just another attention-seeker vying for his 15 minutes ...
oops time's up ... move along ... next.
Another reporter who thinks he / she knows something about airplanes.
1. The "black boxes" [flight data and voice recorders] are actually a bright orange.
2. They are located in the tail section of the aircraft, as that is the most likely part to survive a crash intact.
“And how would he know the way the plane crashed???”
He is assuming that it was a controlled crash. Considering the other clues and facts, this is quite likely.
Planet Earth ?
He’s saying that if the cabin remained intact, then there would not have been a situation where the black box would have been damaged either. In other words, there’s not the type of conditions in the crash where it — too — would have been damaged.
The article did not say anything about the color of the black box. Also, the article did not say anything about the location of the black box, inside the plane.
You’re simply “reading that INTO the article” from your misreading of the article.
And what would those other clues and facts be???
A truly evil opponent would dump bodies, luggage, seat cushions, and miscellaneous debris to convince people that the airframe was out of play while they quietly converted it for other uses...
Yea, they know where it crashed... in the ocean. Somewhere.
Belief has nothing to do with science, except for global warming, evolution...
Oh! A CIA operation then ... false flags a wavin’ anyone?
Though the math involved in this is about 5th grade level and is the best clue to date.
“And what would those other clues and facts be??? “
It is quite apparent that the plane was hijacked and under control. It did not make a U turn and fly off into the Indian Ocean on its own.
It was also most likely out of fuel.
Very early on they said the flight data recorder was turned off. How they knew that is anyone’s guess, unless there was inside information beforehand. We will have to see if they find it and if anything is on it.
Grabbing for their 15 minutes of fame!
I never saw that stated. And if it was (which I never saw) it certainly was never repeated. In addition, I haven’t ever seen it reported that it’s even possible to turn it off.
Well, they’re doing a whole lot better than saying “somewhere in the world” ... LOL ...
We know all of that but that doesn’t tell anybody HOW it went down.
Believe in government grants and peer acceptance....Just saying.
Yeah, I know. Sometimes things are only said once, but I did hear that report and found it memorable.
University of Western Australia... huh. Just more tenure seeking profs pimping for dollars. They are the same all over the world.
Give me money and I can research this some more and “fix it” when in reality they just “discover” another problem only they can now study.
I think that those engineers at Inmarsat and the AAIB (UK Air Accidents Investigation Board) would disagree with you ... :-) ...
That is it's nickname, used by ground personnel.
However, it's christened name, used by management, is 'Carmen SanDiego'.
Yes, you are correct, sir!
LOL - Love it!!
I found something similar if someone gets into the circuit breakers.
"But the investigation of a 1997 SilkAir flight that crashed in Sumatra, Indonesia, killing 104 people, suggests that scenario is possible. On the SilkAir flight, the cockpit voice recorder stopped working. Investigators suspected, but were unable to confirm, that the circuit breaker for the cockpit voice recorder had been pulled, disabling the device. The official Indonesian accident report never determined the official cause of the accident. But the NTSB concluded in its own report that the crash was the result of one pilots suicide." http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/03/140315-malaysian-airlines-flight-370-investigation-plane-crashes
They are now moving the search area 685 miles North East...
They are looking in a different area now based upon a revised fuel burn ratio, more north easterly.
Why does a “scientist” or “professor” need to be involved where anyone with a pair of eyes and discerning mind can do as well or likely betteras he does not carry the ego load.
This is all speculation.This “wreckage” could be anything. There is stuff falling of of merchant ships into the ocean everyday. Go look at some videos at “gcaptain.com” to see container ships breaking up, vehicles flying off decks in bad weather, ship collisions etc.
If the plane hit the water at terminal velocity or under power, the cabin would not have stayed intact. That would be a physical impossibility.
I have read where hitting the water at speed would be like crashing into a concrete wall. The plane would basically explode, as well as any bodies, and the tail would meet the nose at the point of impact in one third of a second.
Generally the pieces of wreckage will sink to the bottom.
The black box is near the tail, and it is made to withstand such impacts.
If this plane hit the ocean, our undersea sonic sound systems or our subs would have picked it up. The sound would have been akin to an explosion, underwater.
Also, anyone who says they know exactly where this plane hit is full of it. Everything we know so far that has not been denied or hedged by the authorities is still open to interpretation to some degree, and is based on certain straight line assumptions—assumptions which generally don;t hold true in the real world.
We have a network of satellites that can track anything in the air.
We know, Malaysia knows and China knows more about what happened then we or they are letting on.
I am amazed at how fast they are all trying to get this off the news.
And we are risking the lives of a lot of brave men, who are sent at in these horrible weather conditions to try to find any wreckage art all. Let’s hope we do not lose any other aircraft.
MCINERNEY is BACK!!
I suppose if the pilot really wanted to hide the plane, and he was wanting to test himself he might have tried to land it smooth, and let it sink mostly intact...
It sure is a crazy mess of a story however it plays out..
“We know all of that but that doesnt tell anybody HOW it went down.”
God only knows HOW or why it went down. It now seems most likely that the plane was hijacked, maybe even by one of the pilots. We can list only speculations about the plane as it is now. One is that the fuselage could still be largely intact if there was a controlled crash on land or sea.
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