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Noonan: Mr. Putin's Revealing Speech
Wall Street Journal ^ | 03/27/2014 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 03/27/2014 7:54:59 PM PDT by goldstategop

One of the strategically interesting things about Vladimir Putin is that he has been careful not to set himself against religious belief but attempted to align himself with it. He has taken domestic actions that he believes reflect the assumptions of religious conservatives. He has positioned himself so that he can make a claim on a part of the Russian soul, as they used to say, that his forbears could not: He is not anti-God, he is pro-God, pro the old church of the older, great Russia. ...

At the top, religious references. Crimea is "where Prince Vladimir was baptized. His spiritual feat of adopting Orthodoxy predetermined the overall basis of the culture, civilization and human values that unite the people of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus."

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Russia
KEYWORDS: christianity; crimea; peggynoonan; presidentputin; wsj
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To: goldstategop
The Orthodox church was heavily penetrated by Soviet informants and agents. The younger of them in Soviet times are now in positions of senior church leadership and it is they who one must assume Putin is directing.

That Putin is also taking measures to suppress non-Orthodox Christianity is most telling as to Putin's purposes with the church. Putin helps the Orthodox church to the extent the Orthodox church helps Putin.

41 posted on 03/28/2014 3:06:13 AM PDT by fso301
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To: logitech

Noon an has it wrong Prince Vladimir was baptized in Kiev by priests from Byzantium. That is why the Main Street in Kiev is called “Kreschatik “ or baptismal street

She is still a clueless dweeb IMHO


42 posted on 03/28/2014 3:08:47 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: goldstategop
We in the West are in danger of forgetting the foundations of our own heritage.

In danger?

I think not.

I think it's already a done deal!


 
 
 
Mayflower Compact
 
In the name of God, Amen. We, whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, King, defender of the Faith, etc.

Having undertaken, for the Glory of God, and advancements of the Christian faith and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the Northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents, solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic; for our better ordering, and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions, and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience.In witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France, and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth, 1620.

 
 
 

43 posted on 03/28/2014 4:48:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RedElement
Read a little Russian history.

Oh heck: read WORLD history!!

RELIGION has shaped human history MUCH more than Politics has!


No; you would NOT have found this out by reading USA's education history textbooks.

44 posted on 03/28/2014 4:54:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JimSEA
I think Putin wants lebensraum; he's a lot like the little strutting corporal with all of his wounded pride and grotesque hubris. But he's more greedy; it's proved by his $75 billion dollars in the bank
45 posted on 03/28/2014 5:39:33 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: maine-iac7
Since the election of the one known as "obama" I have found myself on a sort of spiritual quest. I didn't set out on this path deliberately, but rather am more like a sleepwalker who woke up here in familiar, but unfamiliar territory.

Regarding the following, I have been reading and studying this for about a year now and am a bit more than half way through it. I admit to having doubts occasionally, but have come to more or less accept all of its claims as written.

It is from that point of view I offer a few of the Messages from True Life In God regarding Russia:

I Will Resurrect Russia As I Have Resurrected Lazarus January 4, 1988

Satan Offered Russia The Deadly Fruit January 5, 1988

Russia Will Be The Symbol Of God's Glory February 1, 1988

Prophecy: I Will Deliver You (russia) And Place You As Head Of Many Nations - The Earth Soon Will Shake And With A Roar The Sky Will Vanish September 9, 1992

Prophecy: Russia Will Govern The Rest Of My Children In Holiness October 20, 1992

Prophecy: I Will Lift Her (Russia) To Become The Head Of Many Nations October 25, 1992

Prophecy On Russia December 13, 1993

46 posted on 03/28/2014 6:38:49 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA

The messages to the shepherd children by Our Lady of Fatima are more to the point and have been approved by the Church. IMO it is more important to promote those.


47 posted on 03/28/2014 6:57:58 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed "Elderly Kooky Type" Catholic Texan)
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To: nanetteclaret
I don't see putting these Messages "out there" as promoting, but merely as offering things I've found for others to consider and for others to decide for themselves.

Had it not been for the Messages in True Life In God, it's unlikely I'd have heard, let alone paid much attention to, her warnings, nor to our Holy Mother Mary.

I'm a lo-info non-denomination Christian and don't have the hostility to the many flavors of Christianity, especially toward Catholics or to The Church, as so often is seen here.

None the less, the Church sat on St. Mary's warnings from Fatima until it was too late to take them to heart. The same is said about Garabandal.

Satan has covered the world with his smoke, including the Church, so doing our own research and letting His Spirit lead each of us would seem to always be good advice.

48 posted on 03/28/2014 7:13:40 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: goldstategop
Russia's President Putin is an old-school religious believer. He is sincere about God in a way one would never hear from the old Soviet leaders.

April Fool's Day must have arrived a few days early this year.

49 posted on 03/28/2014 7:20:40 AM PDT by gdani
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To: goldstategop

Sorry, while I enjoy seeing him poke Obama, Putin is no hero. He is a Stalinist who is actively trying to rehabilitate the image of old Joe the mass murderer.


50 posted on 03/28/2014 7:54:26 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Slump Tester

bump


51 posted on 03/28/2014 7:55:42 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: nanetteclaret
The messages to the shepherd children by Our Lady of Fatima...

2 Peter 1:3

His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.


I wonder...

...did Peter know that an apparition would appear saying...

But WAIT!!

There's MORE?

52 posted on 03/28/2014 9:29:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Slump Tester

Noonan is dead to me.


53 posted on 03/28/2014 5:21:34 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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To: elhombrelibre

You bring up Iran.

But this thread is about Ukraine. You want to go to war with Russia over Ukraine? McCain seems to want that. Maybe you’re a McCain follower. I sure as h am not


54 posted on 03/29/2014 3:37:59 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: JimSEA

Our destruction as the power that brought the USSR down is all part of his grand plan.

Says who? You speak a whole lot of bluster, with nothing to back it up. Georgia, Crimea, Ukraine - it doesn’t matter to us who’s in charge. I’m sure that two months ago you couldn’t have named any of the leaders of these areas, but now because McCain says you’re supposed to be afraid and angry about what’s going on there, you’re dutifully saluting McCain and Lindsay and getting afraid and angry — about areas of the world that have no relevance to you or US interests. You should spend your time and energy on things that have a real impact on you and your family, not these fake foreign “crises” that the neocons want us to buy into.


55 posted on 03/29/2014 3:43:17 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

And your proof is . . . What? I was referring to an article quoting Putin from some fifteen years ago. In the anominity of your basement you feel free to spew insults and unsubstantiated claims. If you feel I’m so vile, get me zotted, jerk.


56 posted on 03/29/2014 3:57:38 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: WilliamIII

I’m not advocating war against anyone, nor am I a McCain fan. I’m pointing out a fact, which you may not be a fan of either. You can not wish facts away just because they do not make Putin look good. Maybe you don’t mind if the mad mullahs get a nuclear weapon. I know some Putinistas don’t.


57 posted on 03/29/2014 11:32:01 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: JimSEA; WilliamIII
Jim,

FreeRepublic's attracting a lot of dumbed down conservatives who cannot figure out that Putin isn't one of us. Strange brew, WilliamIII.

58 posted on 03/29/2014 11:33:56 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Putin has got a vendetta.

As does Obama. Unfortunately their vendettas are more parallel than opposing.


59 posted on 03/29/2014 11:37:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: elhombrelibre

I guess. Putin seems so transparent. Of course, the internationalist, socialist Obama seems equally transparent. Thanks.


60 posted on 03/29/2014 11:41:55 PM PDT by JimSEA
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