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IRS seizes refunds of taxpayers whose parents owe the government money
American Thinker ^ | 04/12/2014 | Rick Moran

Posted on 04/13/2014 11:55:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

When are the sins of the father visited upon his children? When the IRS and Social Security Administration say so.

Hit and Run:

Holding children responsible for the debt incurred by their parents is a feature of historical feudalism and a few modern third-world shitholes.

Developed countries, by and large, assume that a debt dies with the person who willingly incurred it, or at least stops with his or her estate. "By and large," I write, because the U.S. government has broken with centuries of tradition holding individuals responsible for their choices, opting to withhold tax refunds from children whose parents incurred vague and often ill-documented obligations to the feds.

The case of Mary Grice, a Maryland resident, reveals just how much Obama has "transformed" America:

A few weeks ago, with no notice, the U.S. government intercepted Mary Grice’s tax refunds from both the IRS and the state of Maryland. Grice had no idea that Uncle Sam had seized her money until some days later, when she got a letter saying that her refund had gone to satisfy an old debt to the government — a very old debt.

When Grice was 4, back in 1960, her father died, leaving her mother with five children to raise. Until the kids turned 18, Sadie Grice got survivor benefits from Social Security to help feed and clothe them.

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“It was a shock,” said Grice, 58. “What incenses me is the way they went about this. They gave me no notice, they can’t prove that I received any overpayment, and they use intimidation tactics, threatening to report this to the credit bureaus.”


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: irs; tax; taxes
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1 posted on 04/13/2014 11:55:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Well isn’t that typical of people who believe in collective lives instead of individuality.


2 posted on 04/13/2014 11:57:09 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: SeekAndFind

By such logic, the children of the EXEMPT should
have their homes taken to repay for ObamaCARE,
and the IRS and NSA scandals.

Sounds like a future Constitutional Amendment.


3 posted on 04/13/2014 11:58:17 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Kackikat

I wonder how much she loves Obama now.


4 posted on 04/13/2014 11:59:00 AM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind
THE IRS IS A CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION!

5 posted on 04/13/2014 12:00:26 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: SeekAndFind

Those in government are going after and seizing everything they can to keep their opulent tax paid retirement pensions from going bankrupt.


6 posted on 04/13/2014 12:00:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Perdogg

By default, isn’t our president then responsible for the total amount of welfare and housing paid out to his Auntie Zetuni?


7 posted on 04/13/2014 12:01:23 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Perdogg

Let’s see how the MSM will spin this.

1. The IRS doesn’t just go after Tea Party folks ?

2. Well, if they owe the money, then that is that?

3. The IRS should leave them alone if they are a minority?

4. I’m sure 0bama will use his pen to fix this ?


8 posted on 04/13/2014 12:04:52 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: blackdog

He signed the farm bill which included this provision in 2010.


9 posted on 04/13/2014 12:04:53 PM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks Obama!


10 posted on 04/13/2014 12:06:04 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be," -Epitap)
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To: blackdog

Only applies if you or your parents are/were conservative.
Liberals will get a pass. There are too many Lois Lerners types at IRS.


11 posted on 04/13/2014 12:07:32 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: SeekAndFind

I never thought of Social Security survivor benefits as incurring a debt to the government. In the olden days they used to call it INSURANCE. People bought it, paid for it, and their family never got anything unless they died. This opens the door for the govt to come after any family whose breadwinner paid into social security and died. Are the Lois Lerners now going after those elderly widows collecting their husband’s “benefits”?


12 posted on 04/13/2014 12:13:09 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Diogenesis

Taking the homes after the parents die as repayment for medicaid, is already the law and has been for some time.


13 posted on 04/13/2014 12:14:13 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The headline misstates the facts. The parents are not the owners of the money, she is the one that was over paid. At least that is the charge.

I suspect she knows that because her objections were not to the facts but that it was so sudden. She was given no warning prior to the withdrawal.

She says there is no proof and that may very well be the case but that is a matter for the courts to decide.

She has my sympathy


14 posted on 04/13/2014 12:14:51 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: SeekAndFind

They voted for it, they got it.

Elections have consequences.


15 posted on 04/13/2014 12:16:02 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

This should be an violation of probate law.

When a person dies, there is a very short amount of time for any creditors to make claims on a persons estate.

After that time, the distribution of the assets of the estate are final.

I do not see how the IRS can retroactively attach the assets of a fully probated estate so what they are doing should be illegal.


16 posted on 04/13/2014 12:20:24 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: SeekAndFind

This is insane and tyrannical


17 posted on 04/13/2014 12:20:38 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

As Christians I know we are not supposed to hate others but one half-breed in the WH is really pushing my limits...and the majority of the populace probably


18 posted on 04/13/2014 12:24:21 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Very true


19 posted on 04/13/2014 12:25:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: unixfox

The District of Criminals is a criminal organization.


20 posted on 04/13/2014 12:28:25 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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