Skip to comments.Russian paramilitary leaders in eastern Ukraine caught on tape communicating with Moscow
Posted on 04/15/2014 7:29:10 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
A recording proving that Russia is backing separatists in eastern Ukraine has surfaced online. The SBU (Security Service of Ukraine) taped the operatives, whose code names are "Nose," "Adler," "Shooter" and "Agath," discussing strategy, weapon stockpiles, and requests for reinforcements.
The SBU has identified the number calling the separatists in Ukraine as having a Russian +7 area code.
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This is nothing but a hostile takeover by an chauvinistic Putin. People who cannot see that would have seen Hitler as ...well, as Pat Buchanan sees him.
What did people think would happen when a Soros and sodomite soviet EU backed gang of Neo-Nazis overthrew the legitimate government of Russia's most important neighbor and strategic ally? That Putin would go into a corner and sulk?
The best way to look at this...is comparing it to a WWE-wrestling event. There’s a thousand event ‘talkers’ in town the month before the event. There’s millions spent to hand out uniforms, truckloads of food, cellphones, kid’s toys, etc. Journalists arrive to tell the story the right way...always to slam the Ukraine. It’s an event, and it’s scripted already out on the whiteboard.
Now, I should note this. When it’s over and Ukraine is divided by the river (50-50 split), and the Ukraine-Russians have their side...where exactly will the jobs and industry come from? Will Russia come with charity money for months and years to prop up the new empire? I kinda doubt it. So, three years later...the remaining Ukraine will be sitting there and doing business with Europe and running a profitable situation. These Russian guys will sit there in a decade and question what this internal revolution was all about and why their lives are so lousy as Russian-Ukrainians.
“What did people think would happen when a Soros and sodomite soviet EU backed gang of Neo-Nazis overthrew the legitimate government of Russia’s most important neighbor and strategic ally?”
The neo-NAZIs overthrowing the legitimate government “of Russia’s most important” formerly enslaved client state of the Ukraine is Russia and its totalitarian Putin regime.
Hey, it’s Sorosista ! How are ya ?
Oh, it’s NAZI Putinista. How are ya? You blithering Putinite. Or is it Rasputinite in your case?
Isn't that one of those Russian brides lines?
That doesn't seem to both you, however.
The Russian Federation,
the European countries and
the US and UK
are all co-investors in the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, to the tune of billions of Euros.
The EBRD website shows several billion euros invested in Ukraine.
This whole situation is a partnership squabble due to the West not being sure to guarantee Russia’s port before they manipulated Ukrainian politics over the past 20 years in order to annex Ukraine into the EU.
The US State Department (Victoria Nuland, on youtube) brags that it has spent $5 billion on “helping Ukraine realize its European aspirations”.
The minions of the financial elites certainly do come up with the most creative euphemisms.
Russia wants to keep its naval port clearly under its control. If Russia loses that key port, it will dramatically weaken Russian naval capabilities. Russia already has nowhere near the fleet the US Navy has. Actually, you’d think the neocons would realize that if Russia becomes militarily weak enough, the whole “game” of spending hundreds of billions on cool military stuff to stay ahead of them is in jeapordy.
Meanwhile, the US/UK/Euro nations, at the behest of financial elites, want to bring Ukraine under the EU legal and financial umbrella. They want to do this because although they are already doing billions in business in Ukraine, the financiers of course want to have the options of forced austerity, EU tax/legal regimes, etc., at their disposal, which they can wield over the Ukrainian people through the puppet Ukrainian government they’ve set up.
Just ask Greece. If your parliament can’t pass austerity laws, we’ll force austerity on you. Signed, your buddies at the EU.
Obviously the elite financiers of the world are stumping for political support in the West for a civil war to break Ukraine in two, which would give Russia its port and the rest to the West. The war will be painful for the Ukrainian sheeple, but eh, such is life. Wars happen. We are your elite masters, and we know that in the long run, having EU laws is worth the pain of a civil war. Signed, your buddies at elite globalism.
If they can’t rouse up the neocons and get public support for stirring up a war in Ukraine, it has to be a black op, and US politicians, if the truth comes out later, would have blame for the op laid at their feet, instead of being able to blame the public outcry for war to help the beleagured Ukrainians with their $5 billion worth of European aspirations.
Unfortunately, the pro-any-war part of the American political scene is shrinking, as the US sheeple gradually wake up to the fact that they’re being lead by financier’s minions in politician’s clothing.
Like the ‘captured American’ video from the other side. The more I watched it, the less convincing it was. Much bad faith all around here. This is the first time in my life I have seen the One Worlders falter though. Good to see.
Putin worked with the Stasi in Dresden, Germany. The difference between Nazis, Commies, and KGB is mostly academic. And if you’re a country like Ukraine, you’ve been mistreated by all three. Putin’s father was in the secret police too. He probably brutalized Ukrainians too. Tell me is it your love of Putin or your hatred of a smaller, weaker country like Ukraine that makes you want him to suppress them?
Putin’s KGB past does not make it acceptable for the US and the West to manipulate Ukraine into joining the EU.
Victoria Nuland of the US State Department euphemistically brags that the US has spent $5 billion to help “Ukraine realize its European aspirations”, which obviously means that in truth $5 billion was spent to gin up public support inside Ukraine to join the European Union.
Just like I oppose attempts to manipulate Ukraine into joining the EU, I oppose any and all attempts to merge the US into any international organizations, as they undermine US national sovereignty. I’d oppose attempts like this in any country.
I don’t support ANY supranational union, or one country ruling over another.
I believe in the idea of legitimate national sovereignty, that is, a nation should be allowed to continue being a nation.
In cases where there is some popular movement to change borders or sovereignty, foreign involvement, especially by financial elites who manipulate whole governments, should be eliminated.
I don’t support the idea of Russia reabsorbing Ukraine in total, as just a bit over twenty years ago Ukraine became independent, and unless proven otherwise, one can only assume that this action was the will of most of the Ukrainian people.
I do support existing agreements that are agreed upon without coercion or corruption using normal diplomatic means. So I realize that the US and Russia and other countries have military bases inside other countries, where both countries agree to the arrangement. These form legitiamate national interests if both parties agree, and the parties have a right to protect such legitimate national interests.
I also believe Obama is a corrupt, evil puppet, that US Presidents for over a century have been minions of the financial elites.
But regardless of the corruption of its leaders, I still believe that America - as well as every other nation - has a legitimate right and responsibility to protect its legitimate national interests.
Notice however, that the European Union, has no legitimate national sovereignty, because it is not a nation. The United Nations also has no legitimate national sovereignty, because it is not a nation.
Those organizations, and any like them, are tools of the financial elites, built by and for them alone. They have zero accountability to citizens of nations and they usurp the national sovereignty of nations. Accordingly, they should all be abolished, and their organizers tried and convicted of treason in the various countries where they knowingly and purposely conspired to undermine national governments.
After a few years of being the enslaved client state of the sodomite Soviet EU and its totalitarian regime in Brussels, after being flooded with Third-world immigrants and Muslims, having their 5 year olds taught the joys of homosex, being saddled with mountains of onerous debt, their resources handed over to Globalist corporations, and being put in jail for objecting to any of it, the Western Ukrainians will regret the decision to snub Russia. The people in Eastern Ukrainian are already fighting in the streets to prevent a Soviet EU takeover.
Could the Ukrainians decide if they want to join the EU in your superior opinion?
“Notice however, that the European Union, has no legitimate national sovereignty, because it is not a nation. The United Nations also has no legitimate national sovereignty, because it is not a nation.
Those organizations, and any like them, are tools of the financial elites, built by and for them alone. They have zero accountability to citizens of nations and they usurp the national sovereignty of nations. Accordingly, they should all be abolished, and their organizers tried and convicted of treason in the various countries where they knowingly and purposely conspired to undermine national governments.”
Any and all supranational unions are by definition illegitimate because they usurp national sovereignty.
Citizens of France and Germany, for example, are subject to EU Acquis, or EU law.
They can no longer vote in French or German internal elections and reject EU law.
Do you live in Europe? Who lives better Poland or Ukraine? If Poland, why?