It was Nov. 1943. Green Beach.
going on memory again the Japs had bunkers immediately west of the beach that were cleared with the gun hoisted over the seawall.
Posted on 04/21/2014 12:00:08 PM PDT by kingattax
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At a petite 5’3’’, Sage Santangelo may not look like a combat fighter at first glance. But the female second lieutenant has never let that hold her back from pursuing her dream of becoming an infantry officer in the Marine Corps.
Growing up, Santangelo found she was always able to keep up with the guys and enjoyed playing hockey on all boys’ teams. But when she joined the Marines, Santangelo found the playing field changed; she was segregated into female-only training units and as a woman, was relegated to less strenuous physical training than her male counterparts. And that’s why, Santangelo told “On the Radar,” she didn’t have a fair shot at passing the Marine Corps’ Infantry Officer Course.
“It was an awesome opportunity for me to be able to try the course, and an opportunity for me to learn what the ground combat element does and how I can support them in the future, and how to become a better leader in the Marines overall,” Santangelo said of the Marines’ Infantry Officer course, which she failed out of on the first day.
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Side Story: As we drew near to returning home after Gulf War I, the females, all three among 800 guys, became, what is the word, ‘bit#hy.” When someone commented on this another guy said; “Well, it's because they realize that in another few weeks they will be ugly again.”
Well then how does this woman be the first female in this course and yet there be female pilots?
Now you got me curious: what is the lethal blast radius of a typical hand grenade, and what was the distance to throw one (before and after the “equality” in the military requirements)?
The average Soldier can throw the M67 grenade 35 meters. The effective casualty producing radius is 15 meters and killing radius is 5 meters.
Not all of the males got a second try. The trainers and evaluators had to ask the question with all "can this person pass if given a re eval?" The pressure was on from above so the trainers had to cover themselves to ten decimal places when failing a female. Unless they were idiots they knew that they would probably have to justify their final decisions well above usual channels.
From my experience in the Air Force and comparing notes after that most of us saw a 80 to 90% failure rate for females in positions that required day to day heavy lifting.
Everybody Should Read General John Kelly’s Speech About Two Marines In The Path Of A Truck Bomb
http://www.businessinsider.com/john-kellys-speech-about-marines-in-ramadi-2013-6#ixzz2zOTvC4hd
Flight slots are hard to come by these days. A lot harder than when I was in. The size of the military is much reduced.
It could be she’s been accepted to flight training but won’t begin for a year — so she’s applied for the infantry officer’s course.
This is speculation on my part, I will admit.
Atlanta ga learned that lesson the hard way in 2005 when they allowed that older woman to be the escort for Brian Nichols. He easily overpowered her and went on a rampage murdering four innocents. Political correctness kills
My first assignment had one woman in my shop. She was the kind that commented about her son pulling her leg hair and had whiskers about 3 inches long on her chin. Since she was female nobody said anything about the facial hair.
The two young pretty women came in. oooo la la, nobody knew how the heck to act. She hated them and the guys had no idea how to act around them.
No argument on anything you said. Usually a re-cycle is due to an injury or something that is correctable. If there are other factors — mental, emotional or a major physical limitation — you wouldn’t expect the training cadre to recommend a do-over.
And yeah, nobody is allowing the military to consider the economic side of the argument: ie. the relative washout rates. Do I want to train 100 female officers to find 2 or 3 who actually can do the job? IOW’s a 97% failure rate in training is a huge waste of resources.
In the real world, the actual failure rate won’t be that bad because the vast majority of female officers won’t select that kind of training if there is a real possibility that they won’t succeed. But the failure rate will still be ridiculously high unless the re-jigger the standards.
Can’t recall, as the book came out back in the 80’s and it’s been a while. . .I do not have with me now as I am in the office now, book at home.
Just damn. That gave me chills.
Why would any sane person want to make the lives of those two soldiers any more complicated and dangerous than they already are?
(A rhetorical question to be sure and only so I can add, “And cursed be the name who those who do so for reasons of style and social justice”)
5’3” female? The ones I knew in my company were all over 5’9”.
Sniper school is harder than infantry school. It is not just driving up to a place and setting up. You have to hump your gear in some places.
Classic examples of lowering the standards and then claim they are equal to men doing the job.
IIRC, 1944 in the South Pacific. East end of the island. I’m thinking it was Tarawa?
Correction it was on the West end of the island.
Some argue that is why Britain is in the shape they are in now circling the drain, many of their real men got killed off.
And that’s the essence of many social issues: if a society doesn’t cherish the realities of reproduction, it can’t last because there won’t be enough to sustain & continue it. Alas, bring up that point and you get ostracized...red alert...
It was Nov. 1943. Green Beach.
going on memory again the Japs had bunkers immediately west of the beach that were cleared with the gun hoisted over the seawall.
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