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Why is Obama decimating the military while arming federal agencies?
Steadfast and Loyal ^ | Apr. 23 , 2014 | Allen West

Posted on 04/23/2014 9:14:28 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse

During the 2008 campaign, I recall then-Senator Obama stating, “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

So, as we decimate our military, cut retiree and veteran benefits, and cut benefits to our military families, we are arming federal agencies. Why?

I don’t know about you, but I ain’t about to be a sheep heading to the slaughter.”

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1 posted on 04/23/2014 9:14:28 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

Asked and answered, your honor!


2 posted on 04/23/2014 9:15:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Just imagine SEIU Thugs with automatic weapons and shoot to kill orders.


3 posted on 04/23/2014 9:16:20 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: All

Remind me of sci fi series, Babylon 5’s Nightwatch
President’s own paramilitary army that answer only to him.


4 posted on 04/23/2014 9:17:54 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: P-Marlowe

It shouldn’t be real hard to pick a couple up if they issue them to those type of people.


5 posted on 04/23/2014 9:19:17 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: P-Marlowe

what did we just see in Nevada ?

bring it on


6 posted on 04/23/2014 9:19:18 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

its the south African communist party plan when they tookover the capitalist nation of south africa


7 posted on 04/23/2014 9:20:11 PM PDT by Understand the stimulus
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To: LeoWindhorse; All

Is the recent bloody Cattle Massacre at Nevada Cattle Rancher Bundy’s Pioneer Corral damaging the Democrat Party in eyes and words of the Democrat Left Stream Media?

To put this latest Medieval “Kill for Sport” event in historical context, all one has to do is remember that the Democrat Party was the Founding Party of the KKK.

Is the modern day equivalent of the KKK the Bureau of Feudal Land Management, (BFLM) ?

If so, then Feudal Lord Reid would then be “The Grand Dragon of the BFLM.”

Feudal Lord Reid’s Rustlers are hired guns, who are furious but not fast, which also applies to their bitter, vengeful, senile, multimillionaire Leader: Feudal Lord Reid.

With the past Democrat-based KKK, and now the present Democrat-controlled BFLM, ethics be damned, as abject fear is the main goal of both of these ethically Medieval Outlaw Gangs, past and present.

“Ethics” will be justified later by Liberals who will write the “revised” PC History of these times, past and present; of powerful men with outlaw hatred toward free people in America, Black or White, poor or rich.

The Jackboot Heel of Democat Tyranny is now upon us, AGAIN !

MOVE ON!
FORWARD!

_____________________________

Occupy Wall Street people were volunteer shock troops for The Democrat Federal Government of Obama, Pelosi, Holder and Schumer.

Reid’s Rustlers were hired shock troops for the Democrat Federal Government of Reid, Obama and Holder.

Occupy Wall Street people attacked businesses in large cities.

Reid’s Rustlers attacked cattle in an isolated Nevada Corral.

Both Occupy Wall Street and Reid’s Rustlers destroyed private property and private jobs.

Both Occupy Wall Street and Reid’s Rustlers were financially supported by the Democrat Obama Administration.

Both Occupy Wall Street and Reid’s Rustlers were publicly encouraged by the Democrat Obama Administration, and the Democrat Left Stream Media.

MOVE ON!
FORWARD!


8 posted on 04/23/2014 9:20:15 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

the answer is obvious. the Military swears to uphold the Constitution first. Civil service is more concerned with maintaining their inflated wages and pensions, so they are loyal to the hiring authority first, (the government agency) and the Constitution last.


9 posted on 04/23/2014 9:21:30 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: LeoWindhorse
So, as we decimate our military, cut retiree and veteran benefits, and cut benefits to our military families, we are arming federal agencies. Why?

Maybe they are getting ready for the civil war, or martial law. Whatever it is, they are up to no good.

10 posted on 04/23/2014 9:25:48 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: LeoWindhorse

It’s as if Obama is replacing our military with his kind of military.


11 posted on 04/23/2014 9:32:07 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

So, as we decimate our military, cut retiree and veteran benefits, and cut benefits to our military families, we are arming federal agencies. Why?


Do bears, is the Pope, etc.


12 posted on 04/23/2014 9:37:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: LeoWindhorse

I’m afraid to say it is likely his ‘civilian security force’. Loyal to him, not to our country.


13 posted on 04/23/2014 9:37:33 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: Mark17

14 posted on 04/23/2014 9:40:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Because Jihadist terrorists are not the enemy to them, we are.


15 posted on 04/23/2014 9:40:21 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: LeoWindhorse

Caesar Baraximus knows that, even if he could get away with having a Praetorian legion in Rome, there’s no guarantee it would be loyal. Several bodies of political lictors bearing fasces, accompanying him wherever he goes, now that’s another matter.
This isn’t going to end well.


16 posted on 04/23/2014 9:45:49 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: LeoWindhorse
That is our president. Putin invades a neighboring country and obammy sends him a letter. A rancher is overdue on paying a bill to the government and obammy sends in the troops to take everything he has.

This is exactly the truth. This is what we now have in the white house.

17 posted on 04/23/2014 9:46:36 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Citizen.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

This needs to be brought up to all congress critters and demand an answer.


18 posted on 04/23/2014 9:48:46 PM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Correct! This is what you get when you have a non Constitutional ass whipe running this country into the ground. Clemency for all the “non-violent” felons that qare sitting in jail. This is history repeating itself.


19 posted on 04/23/2014 9:51:41 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Ruby Ridge was GHW Bush. Otherwise yeah.


20 posted on 04/23/2014 9:52:05 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: Eagles6

The elites are in denial about the backbone of many Americans...complete denial.


21 posted on 04/23/2014 10:00:20 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: P-Marlowe

Just imagine SEIU Thugs with automatic weapons and shoot to kill orders.

***********

I am. I see a supply train, and a shift in demographics.


22 posted on 04/23/2014 10:05:03 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

23 posted on 04/23/2014 10:05:11 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: LeoWindhorse
Awaking sleeping giant...Rifle behind every blade of grass...

O'douchebag wants a war, just keep pushing.

24 posted on 04/23/2014 10:05:53 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
In obama's own words:
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008
He doesn’t call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps that we deserve) defense.

The official name is National Civilian Community Corps. I think of it as the NATCCC, or more simply as the NatCs...

25 posted on 04/23/2014 10:21:24 PM PDT by null and void (...if you are too sure of your place in heaven you might be too arrogant to actually get there.)
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To: originalbuckeye

I’m afraid to say it is likely his ‘civilian security force’. Loyal to him, not to our country.

Yes let him arm them to the teeth and watch them turn on him when he least expects it. This possibility must keep him awake at night.


26 posted on 04/23/2014 10:27:12 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: ogen hal

True.They can only be pushed so far. We are standing on the precipice of the abyss. What to do?


27 posted on 04/23/2014 10:39:50 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: Nachum

Ping


28 posted on 04/23/2014 10:50:02 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list


29 posted on 04/23/2014 10:51:40 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

State Dept Pub 7277, Freedom From War. explains it well.


30 posted on 04/23/2014 11:06:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Why is an evil, anti-American thug weakening our country’s defense against outsiders and strengthening FedGov’s ability to crush civilians? I can’t imagine why.


31 posted on 04/24/2014 12:13:58 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Why is Obama decimating the military while arming federal agencies?
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Posse Comitatus Law.

The military cannot and will not act against its own citizens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

Obama is circumventing Posse Comitatus by arming federal agencies to enforce stste law. That means he can in effect used deadly military force against civilians.


32 posted on 04/24/2014 12:54:12 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: P-Marlowe

SEIU thugs who used to be sporting red and blue gang colors, versus guys whose “gang” colors are Realtree and Mossy Oak? I know where my money is at.


33 posted on 04/24/2014 1:21:43 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 4rcane

“Remind me of sci fi series, Babylon 5’s Nightwatch
President’s own paramilitary army that answer only to him.”

Weren’t they all white guys? I stopped watching Babylon 5 because of that PC nonsense. I suspect Obama’s Red Guards will be forced to hire more diverse candidates...


34 posted on 04/24/2014 3:43:05 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: LeoWindhorse
The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) now have armed agents.

They had armed agents before Obama came into office. West's case might be bolstered if we knew how many armed agents the BLM and the IRS and other agencies had before Obama came into office and how much that has increased since 2008.

35 posted on 04/24/2014 3:47:05 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Doomonyou
"Awaking sleeping giant..."

You think that they would understand that, after 200K blue-state Connecticut gun owners defy registration laws and four-times that number of blue-state New York gun owners did the same.

We will not comply.
"DONT TREAD ON ME"

36 posted on 04/24/2014 3:57:42 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Federal agencies are loaded to the bear with armaments and government agents. Could the POTUS be looking for an armed confrontation and or battle with American citizens (ie Cliven Bundy) so he can declare martial law and postpone elections and/or extend his presidency (dictatorship)?


37 posted on 04/24/2014 4:30:41 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: LeoWindhorse

What was the recent disarming of National Guard units aka Apaches moved to active army units about ....just more of what’s written here as well ???

Good read....stay safe !


38 posted on 04/24/2014 4:31:01 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: P-Marlowe

Well, If SEIU workers handled guns like they handle their jobs, most would be cleaning their ears with gun barrels, using them as back scratchers or door stops or shooting themselves.
Its the Gang Members that should sorry you. They are hardcore killers and wouldn’t mind killing a few whites.


39 posted on 04/24/2014 4:53:42 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: originalbuckeye
Yep, the Military is sworn to protect the Constitution and the Feds are sworn to protect their leader.
40 posted on 04/24/2014 5:27:34 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
"...but I ain’t about to be a sheep heading to the slaughter.”

Me neither, Sir. I will get my licks in before they chunk me in the clay.

5.56mm

41 posted on 04/24/2014 5:37:16 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: LeoWindhorse
" Why is Obama decimating the military while arming federal agencies?"

I thought it was pretty obvious: he wants to destroy America. This is just one part of the whole plan. I wish our non-representing representatives would proclaim that loudly and often. Expose the bastard.

42 posted on 04/24/2014 6:15:51 AM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of liberty only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: Psalm 144

Yep. It’s gonna be like Christmas, all the wonderful new toys.

Unless Obama sends out the entire contingent of U.S. Marines, I’m not too worried. All these Feddies are SWAT dynamic entry trained. As we saw at the Bundy ranch, that don’t do so well for open field operations.

Their math doesn’t add up.


43 posted on 04/24/2014 6:25:01 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: kenmcg

Obama cannot suspend the Constitution. His office is derived from that Constitution, as are any Executive Orders he may issue. Suspending it suspends his own authority. He may attempt to do so, but no one is obligated to follow.

He also cannot extend his term in office, as it vacates him Jan 20, 2017. He also cannot suspend elections, as that is state controlled and ordained. Any attempt to do either would carry no legal weight and I expect ignored by most states.

Any official following him in the above actions will be committing treason and engaging in domestic terrorism. There will be no need for investigation or trial, they will be subject to summary field execution, simple as that.

As I said, unless Zero sends out the entire contingent of U.S. Marines, I’m not worried about a bunch of SWAT trained dynamic entry jockeys. They will be fodder in the open field, and we will have all their toys.


44 posted on 04/24/2014 6:34:01 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: Free Vulcan

When they get serious about taking us out, they won’t send people... they’ll send drones. Good luck with that.


45 posted on 04/24/2014 6:38:02 AM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: kearnyirish2

babylon5 is one of the best sci-fi series. How far into it did you watch? I didn’t notice the PC nonsense in it


46 posted on 04/24/2014 6:54:54 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: LeoWindhorse

Ironic that those in the military become law enforcement officers. City, county, state, and federal agencies are loaded with ex military fags.


47 posted on 04/24/2014 7:12:17 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: 3boysdad

They don’t have enough drones, today, to do that. 10 or 20 years maybe. It’s gonna take alot of drones to take on 300 million people unless they’re planning to drop nukes.

Drones have to be fueled and armed, they have to take off and land, and they have to be piloted, which means they can be hijacked. Not to mention the bases they are flying out of can be taken over. The whole drone thing works great till they are turned against you.


48 posted on 04/24/2014 7:17:59 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: ronnyquest

baraq and his ilk are setting up this country for either an economic crash or a terrorist attack. At the point of either, he will have a domestic army loyal to him.
Decimating the military and militarizing federal agencies is one facet of the plan.

Rahm: never let a crisis go to waste.
Valerie Jarret: There will be hell to pay
baraq: Reward your friends and punish your enemies.

baraq has surrounded himself with like minded people who would have no problem turning armed federal agencies against the American people.

Hopefully nothing bad happens that will give them the excuse to turn on us. But if it does, the feds will have their hands full in ways they cannot comprehend.


49 posted on 04/24/2014 7:29:46 AM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is now the CPUSA)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Write legislators, demanding total disarmament of agencies not delegated as criminal law enforcement. If an agency needs enforcement regarding a criminal matter, they can duly route that task to the appointed agency (FBI, Federal Marshals, Secret Service, etc.). If an agency needs “backup” for a risky situation, they can request accompaniment of an armed enforcement agency, as a matter of dealing with any criminal situations that may arise (assault, etc) but NOT for bureaucratic enforcement thru deadly force. Leverage the separation of agencies to make sure the guys on the trigger believe they’re doing it for the right reason, and not just to expand their own power (to wit: “we’re not getting into a shootout with a rancher just because some fines are debatably owed”). If an armed agency won’t consent to providing support, the bureaucrats may exercise their own 2nd Amendment rights - knowing they are not empowered to use force to enforce anything beyond basic self-defense.

Circumventing “Posse Comitatus” by arming bureaucrats is absolutely unacceptable. That includes DHS, which should do no more than provide national coordination of state militias.


50 posted on 04/24/2014 8:02:25 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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