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1 posted on 04/24/2014 1:46:38 PM PDT by servo1969
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Hannity knee-jerked to Zimmerman and looks to have done the same to Bundy.
If he stays true to form he will have forgotten all about his comment come Monday.


247 posted on 04/24/2014 4:05:58 PM PDT by kanawa
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I have noticed on all threads that are not PC, there are initially pages of vitriol from FReepers who have a small posting history. Then the later pages are filled with the reasonable FReepers who comment thoughtfully.

This happening over and over leads me to believe that the rainbow coalition monitors FR and notifies the rest of the mangy crew when an article like this is posted so they can pile on and possibly set the narrative. Get a hundred response thread and look at the first 20 or so. It happens all the time.

296 posted on 04/24/2014 4:51:07 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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I think it is sad that so many will spend all their energies jumping away from Cliven Bundy's remarks for fear of being branded racisis, that they won't even take the time to look at what he was saying.

SO let's run down a comparison.

Imagine a society in which there is full employment. In which everyone learns some sort of trade, no matter how humble. You don't get paid for your work in cash, but housing, basic clothing, and rudimentary medical care are provided. After all, you are a person of value. Even transportation to and from work is arranged. You might, under some circumstances, be transferred to another work area, and your family might not be able to follow. Not all supervisors will treat you the same, but, (back to being a valuable individual), if there is someone else around to do the most dangerous work, chances are very good you will be spared those tasks. You will not be asked to take up arms in conflict, and under the best of circumstances, you may spend your entire life in the same area, surrounded by family, although there are no guarantees.

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Keep in mind that the above scenario was not the case for everyone; that many did not live or work under those conditions, that some even were the supervisors, that some were owners. There were those who, by virtue of birth, hard work, exceptional deeds, or other conditions lived quite differently, and some quite well.

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Next scenario:

Housing, food, and other amenities are provided, provided the family is broken up. No father may remain within the walls, or the allotments of food and other amenities, including housing are reduced or eliminated.

Children learn no trade, and are diminished for attempting to learn either a trade or profession in many circumstances. Instead, since economic honesty is punished and deceit rewarded, many are given to crime, to work or activities which create a profit off the books, and they are their own worst enemy, killing more of their own than any other group.

Idleness leads to other problems besides criminal acts, including drug use, prostitution, and a wide range of felonious careers. Many who fall to this mindset have given up hope of better.

Some work at gainful employ, some strive to be educated, but few of these are revered in the dependent community, and then only for concessions they can get for the rest of the dependent population.

Families become strictly matrilineal, because paternal identities are thinly established and relationships hindered or discouraged by the provider of stuff.

Now, again, not all live this way. Many have escaped that bondage through virtue of birth, by hard work or exceptional deeds, and some of those who live quite well, complete with the familial ties which many still prize. There are those who live elite lives, through their own effort, and those who live thus by promising those who await their stuff more stuff.

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I do not seek to offend. That is not my goal.

Examine alternatives, the former, of course is slavery. Not all were slaves (some were even owners), and being valuable in themselves, not all slaves were mistreated--any more than someone would trash their new car or tractor. Some slaves worked hand in hand with the owners families, and I know of at least one instance where they, with permission and blessing, took the family name as a surname upon manumission. That is not the Harriet Beecher Stowe Abolitionist Novel version, but reality.

Yes, there were some evil people who owned slaves, but that was far from a universal condition.

Compare and contrast to life on the Government teat, replete with regulations and rules, among which are the mandatory destruction of the family, and constraints on what can be earned--constraints which foster an environment of deceit and fraud. This is a pervasive system, insidious in its structure where even the slightest progress toward freedom from it is decried by those who continue on it, punished by its overseers withholding of food, housing, medical care, or other benefits should one make too much progress, sanctions above and beyond the progress one might make toward achieving those ends.

Not only is there the official sanction, but those in the community will often harass, demean, and even attack those who attempt to free themselves.

Neither is freedom. The only difference is that in one the chains of bondage were imposed by captors a continent away or acquired at birth, in the other, those chains were willingly, if grudgingly at first, assumed, or acquired at birth. Both are slavery. But one universally requires the destruction of the family and fosters deceit and fraud and other crime, and we (the "free") all pay at gunpoint to provide it.

When you look at it that way, maybe Cliven Bundy has a point.

306 posted on 04/24/2014 5:48:21 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Although Bundy said it clumsily, and although he’d been better off to obey the thought police, I don’t see that much wrong with his opinion on this subject. Are the blacks better off being owned by the government? Nope.

They don’t seem to see what the democrat party and the left are doing to them. Where I live, there are 2 black churches near by. The parking lot is full every Sunday... 3 services. But they vote democrat. I can’t figure out how so many can be so willingly used by the left. I can’t come up with a good reason for this kind of thinking.


316 posted on 04/24/2014 6:20:04 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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Jon Stewart is going to have a field day on this one.


366 posted on 04/25/2014 6:06:46 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Hannity is a pathetic tool here….this is not about Bundy. Bundy cannot jail anyone, tax anyone, regulate anyone, and cannot give crony deals to friends because he’s Leader of the Senate.

In a rush to show how nice he is, Hannity stepped in a big pile of doo doo here.


370 posted on 04/25/2014 7:32:13 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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It’s so sad the way conservatives bark to the Left’s race whistle. Actually, that is an insult to the intelligence of dogs. You don’t have to wonder how calling a whitey a “race traitor” worked for the Dem Party radicals in the past.


378 posted on 04/25/2014 7:33:25 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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