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Study Links California Drought To Global Climate Change
CBS Local Sacramento ^ | April 24, 2014

Posted on 04/24/2014 8:02:17 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

While researchers have sometimes connected weather extremes to man-made global warming, usually it’s not done in real time. Now a study is asserting a link between climate change and both the intensifying California drought and the polar vortex blamed for a harsh winter that mercifully has just ended in many places.

The Utah State University scientists involved in the study say they hope what they found can help them predict the next big weird winter.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacramento.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: climategate; drought; failure; hoax

1 posted on 04/24/2014 8:02:17 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Whadya bet that the initial story sticks,
but the debunking articles are few and
hard to find.


2 posted on 04/24/2014 8:04:26 PM PDT by WKTimpco
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Drought is a new phenomena in California.


3 posted on 04/24/2014 8:04:50 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

is there anything these idiots DON’T link to (alleged) “global climate change”?

The study: Gee, it’s dry. Must be climate change. Give us more money.


4 posted on 04/24/2014 8:05:37 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The drought in California is caused by illegal immigration.

Prove me wrong.


5 posted on 04/24/2014 8:11:14 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Climate is always changing because everything changes in time. The idea that we are causing it doesn't work because it has gone through these "cycles" before.

We're soooooo ignorant and unwilling to say "we simply don't know"....probably because no one can write on the subject on that finding.

The arrogant will expound....to no effect.

6 posted on 04/24/2014 8:13:27 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Everyone knows this drought was caused by racism.


7 posted on 04/24/2014 8:14:42 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Study Links California Drought To Global Climate Change

Impossible! It's settled science.

8 posted on 04/24/2014 8:16:35 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Did they conclude it before or after the study?

Pray America wakes up


9 posted on 04/24/2014 8:17:01 PM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 is here)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Study Links California Drought To Global Climate Change

The same study would link the floods to global warming and will when the drought ends.

10 posted on 04/24/2014 8:22:48 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Cowboy Bob

The ________ was caused by climate change. There’s an App for that.


11 posted on 04/24/2014 8:28:53 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: beethovenfan
do any of us doubt climate changes?....I don't....I dispute whether man causes it....

sure we're going to have wet/dry hot/cold periods....

its like some of these people have never really woken up and smelled the coffee...

12 posted on 04/24/2014 8:41:53 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

El Nino is supposed to happen this year.

Heavy rains later this year, if so...

Just saying.


13 posted on 04/24/2014 8:43:11 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Climate is studied over hundreds and thousands of years. These frauds look out their city windows for 10 minutes and have all the answers......

BS. There is no proven science or even a secure tested theory that was developed with the proper scientific methods. None, not a single one.

But based on their wild ass guesses they have caused hundreds of thousands of people to loose their jobs. They should be take out and beaten not worshiped.

14 posted on 04/24/2014 8:49:16 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Citizen.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The dry boogers in my nose are caused
by Globull warming!


15 posted on 04/24/2014 8:50:25 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Studies link Harry Reid’s dinginess to Global Climate Change.


16 posted on 04/24/2014 8:50:53 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Cowboy Bob

Certainly wouldn’t pretend to say what causes the drought other than to say it maybe didn’t rain as much in the past. So many people have been added to California that even if we had the same amount of rain as in the past it still wouldn’t be enough to make up the difference in consumption.

I have always felt that the addition of all the solar panels and wind farms has to have some effect on the wind currents. Wish someone would prove me wrong on that issue.


17 posted on 04/24/2014 9:05:40 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I heard in Peru, there are records of “El Nino’s” going back 700 years.

As for California, there were droughts in the 19th century and earlier that were far worse than the current situation.
And there wasn’t a single internal combustion engine anywhere in the world at that point in time.


18 posted on 04/24/2014 9:05:58 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
John Steinbeck set most of his novels in California, and within at least one of his novels he talks about the periodic periods of drought.

Is drought new in California? No more than any other area that experiences periodic droughts, as the climate cycle continues unending movement.

Funny thing about “global warming”. In the 1800’s oranges were grown extensively in north Florida. After a blizzard in 1899, the orange groves were moved to the Orlando area. After severe cold snaps in the 1960’s and 70’s, the groves moved even further south.

If anything we are experiencing cooling.

19 posted on 04/24/2014 9:08:32 PM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: Cowboy Bob

> The drought in California is caused by illegal immigration.

Prove me wrong.

You may have something there. Count the population in the affected region pre-drought and now. Tally the percentage of estimated illegal aliens during the same time periods, add at least 10 % for the ones they didn’t catch, compare, and do the math


20 posted on 04/24/2014 9:13:49 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You know. What the warmists really ought to do is just release one big study that proves, without a doubt, that every bad thing ever is caused by CO2. It would save them a lot of time and press releases.


21 posted on 04/24/2014 9:17:06 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The only “drought” was caused by liberals literally turning the tap OFF! and turning parts of the state into a dustbowl.


22 posted on 04/24/2014 9:34:18 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Study? Scientists? Scientists don't do studies they do empirical research and experiments. Show me some verifiable and falsifiable evidence.

CC

23 posted on 04/24/2014 9:58:29 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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“The drought in California is caused by illegal immigration.

Prove me wrong.”

You are certainly not wrong but you are only half right.
Half of the problem was caused by the legal immigration
of liberal Americans from everywhere starting in the
1960s. What happened to my state? Don’t let it happen
to you! (if it hasn’t already)


24 posted on 04/24/2014 10:30:11 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red tur)
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>> the next big weird winter

Never before have we had a “big weird winter”.

>> The Utah State University scientists

So what does it take to be a “scientist” these days? Espouse Climate Change?


25 posted on 04/24/2014 10:33:05 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Drought ? At least it is not a dust bowl.


26 posted on 04/24/2014 10:44:25 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Chicago had the coldest winter ever , here's proof:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/02/chicago-coldest-winter-ever_n_5078201.html

This after democrats said that our factories emitting CO2 have been creating a greenhouse effect for the past 200 years. so if that were true , if their global warming were true then we couldn't have had the coldest winter ever after 200 years of "global warming". Conclusion : 1.global warming is a lie. 2. a lot of what else democrats and the news media and scientists say is a lie;

27 posted on 04/25/2014 12:22:01 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Chicago had the coldest winter ever , here's proof:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/02/chicago-coldest-winter-ever_n_5078201.html

This after democrats said that our factories emitting CO2 have been creating a greenhouse effect for the past 200 years. so if that were true , if their global warming were true then we couldn't have had the coldest winter ever after 200 years of "global warming".

Conclusion : 1.global warming is a lie. 2. a lot of what else democrats and the news media and scientists say is a lie;

I shut up a whole room of liberals with these words. a liberal from chicago said it was the coldest winter there this year. so i said that and liberals were fuming!

28 posted on 04/25/2014 12:23:22 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This year of our Lord 2014 , this year in 2014 Chicago had the coldest winter ever , here's proof:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/02/chicago-coldest-winter-ever_n_5078201.html

This after democrats said that our factories emitting CO2 have been creating a greenhouse effect for the past 200 years. so if that were true , if their global warming were true then we couldn't have had the coldest winter ever after 200 years of "global warming".

Conclusion : 1.global warming is a lie. 2. a lot of what else democrats and the news media and scientists say is a lie;

I shut up a whole room of liberals with these words. a liberal from chicago said it was the coldest winter there this year. so i said that and liberals were fuming!

29 posted on 04/25/2014 12:24:53 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
El Nino brings rain to California, so if trapped Co2 brought drought it also brings rain. Looks like weather to me
30 posted on 04/25/2014 12:35:32 AM PDT by wmap
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Study Links California Drought To Global Climate Change"

Some environwacko must have stapled two reports together.
31 posted on 04/25/2014 12:46:41 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Wang based his study, soon to be published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, on computer simulations, physics and historical data. It is not as detailed and doesn’t involve numerous computer model simulations as more formal attribution studies. Still, Wang said his is a proper connection.

From "Aliens Cause Global Warming: A Caltech Lecture by Michael Crichton"

To an outsider, the most significant innovation in the global warming controversy is the overt reliance that is being placed on models. Back in the days of nuclear winter, computer models were invoked to add weight to a conclusion: “These results are derived with the help of a computer model.”

But now, large-scale computer models are seen as generating data in themselves. No longer are models judged by how well they reproduce data from the real world-increasingly, models provide the data.

As if they were themselves a reality. And indeed they are, when we are projecting forward. There can be no observational data about the year 2100. There are only model runs. This fascination with computer models is something I understand very well.

Richard Feynmann called it a disease. I fear he is right. Because only if you spend a lot of time looking at a computer screen can you arrive at the complex point where the global warming debate now stands. Nobody believes a weather prediction twelve hours ahead. Now we’re asked to believe a prediction that goes out 100 years into the future?

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/09/aliens-cause-global-warming-a-caltech-lecture-by-michael-crichton/

32 posted on 04/25/2014 12:56:19 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Study Links California Drought To Global Climate Change”

False. There is no link. The study only attempts to establish a link. Believe it or not.


33 posted on 04/25/2014 1:44:26 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: beethovenfan

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm


34 posted on 04/25/2014 3:22:20 AM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man. Jefferson)
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To: beethovenfan

ahh,, but at least for today, it is wet here,, rainy..

Yes, Virginia, the climate does change..

but the lies don’t.


35 posted on 04/25/2014 8:44:24 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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