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Unedited Tape of Bundy Emerges, Sheds Light on 'Racist' Remarks
Truth revolt ^ | 04/25/2014 | TR

Posted on 04/25/2014 9:04:14 AM PDT by celmak

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To: celmak
Those abandoning Bundy...

My hypothesis is that those that abandoned Bundy are fake constitutional conservatives, looking for any excuse at all to side with their DC buddies about Reid's sleazy land deals, and yet still get elected. Mygosh, look how fast Rand Paul and Shawn Hannity got on board the DC train on this issue.

Bundy did something beyond what anyone would expect a person to do in these circumstances, much more than those ranchers who decided to give up rather than fight the feds. He's not trained in dealing with a hostile media out to get him. What average person leverages everything they say so it can't be taken out of context?

I wonder if what he said is much different than what MLK said to blacks, many decades after slavery was abolished. Is it any different than Ceasar Chavez demanding US wages for Mexican workers who were being exploited and unable to move ahead to more independent lives?

The "constitutional conservatives" have been very, very disappointing in the whole situation. Very few had the instincts to immediately support citizen's rights to the land in these fast-moving events. Too many of them (I suspect looking for a "way out" from having to defend Bundy and anger Reid) quickly condemned Bundy instead of actually reading and hearing what he had to say, which is a consistnat message for US citizens to take back their lives and not be slaves to the government.

I'm very discouraged that we don't have much of a real voice in DC.

21 posted on 04/25/2014 9:25:48 AM PDT by grania
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To: celmak
Liberals, Democrats and RINO’s couldn't wait to play the race card. It still proves the axiom that those that play the race card have lost the argument and are using a ridiculous premise to further their agenda.
22 posted on 04/25/2014 9:26:45 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: celmak

There is absolutely no doubt that the traditional media is a propaganda arm of the Democrat Party, aka the government party. It has been proven many, many times that the media will edit any interview in a way that will be most damning to conservatives. They are not reporters, and they do not report the truth!

It doesn’t even matter whether or not they think they’re propagandists. Maybe they even think they’re fairly reporting the facts. After all, Mr. Bundy said what he said, except the media is hopelessly blinded by their own pro-left ideology even if they individually try to be fair. It would take an exceptional person to be able to properly put things into context, and frankly, most journalists are not very exceptional.

The important question is what can we conservatives do about it? We are not going to receive equal treatment in an agenda filled media. If one of our people makes a less than perfectly scripted comment, the media will attack ruthlessly. Whereas, someone on the left can make much more damning statements, but they will be presented in the most favorable sense by the media who see their “reporting” not as a means of presenting truth but as a means to fix society.

The bottom line? Conservatives really need to be prepared for the media onslaught. We’ve had several cases where decent candidates have made some foolishly naive interviews and comments to the media. Doesn’t anyone really think someone like Todd Akin would have been worse than a Democrat, regardless of Akin’s medically incorrect views about conception after rape? Does anyone really believe Akin was waging or wanted to wage a war on women? Laughable, but that was the media’s meme, and it doesn’t matter if someone like Biden says equally ill informed stuff on a daily basis.

So, we need to get a lot smarter about how to craft our message.


23 posted on 04/25/2014 9:27:00 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (We can't have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it!)
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To: Cicero
The only thing he did wrong was to use the word “negro,”

Well, coulda been much worse... if he used the "macacca" word, or heaven-forbid, "niggardly".

24 posted on 04/25/2014 9:27:28 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: celmak

So what? The feral government can communistically seize his herds and livelihood because now he’s judged a racist?

Harry Reid be waciss too. Confiscate his land and property. Oh, yeah. He’s a democrat. He can play that card anytime.


25 posted on 04/25/2014 9:28:10 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Cicero

This guy pretty much said the exact same thing as Bundy, albeit much more eloquently:

“Among a large class, there seemed to be a dependence upon the government for every conceivable thing. The members of this class had little ambition to create a position for themselves, but wanted the federal officials to create one for them. How many times I wished then and have often wished since, that by some power of magic, I might remove the great bulk of these people into the country districts and plant them upon the soil – upon the solid and never deceptive foundation of Mother Nature, where all nations and races that have ever succeeded have gotten their start – a start that at first may be slow and toilsome, but one that nevertheless is real.”

- Booker T. Washington (Up From Slavery)


26 posted on 04/25/2014 9:28:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cicero

Nothing wrong with that word either....It’s how we describe blacks in Spanish. What are the PC Police going to sensor spanish also?

Now that would be...racist!


27 posted on 04/25/2014 9:30:36 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: celmak

Nothing here that Thomas Sowell hasn’t said, only in a more educated fashion.


28 posted on 04/25/2014 9:31:28 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Twisting words just like their “father” taught them.
(See Genesis 3 for details)


29 posted on 04/25/2014 9:32:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: celmak

Race Baiters gotta hate.

They only hear the dog whistles.


30 posted on 04/25/2014 9:33:22 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: celmak

Chris Cuomo on CNN said the remarks were so bad, he would not play them.


31 posted on 04/25/2014 9:33:53 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: celmak

Sadly a lot of people have taken their eye off the ball. The issue is not Bundy’s views on race or anything else. The issue is whether a weaponized BLM should have the power to do what they did. And they should not.


32 posted on 04/25/2014 9:34:35 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (Obama-worst president in American History)
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To: celmak

The notion that blacks are worse off now than in the 1960s or the immediate post-WWII years has been claimed by many black leaders over the years, and I culled several examples in just a few minutes of googling. I also found examples of black leaders saying that blacks are now worse off in South Africa than they were under apartheid. One does not have to necessarily agree with these comments to understand the point, and the point is NOT that slavery and apartheid should be restored or civil rights laws abolished. That was NOT Bundy’s point, and it is obviously not the point when black leaders point out current problems in the black community.


33 posted on 04/25/2014 9:37:32 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Mechanicos
Where is all the DU trolls telling us all is lost and resistance is futile?

They are ALL OVER THE PLACE ! Where have you been ?

34 posted on 04/25/2014 9:38:14 AM PDT by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: celmak
Didn't improve it for me. When I see this line of his:

"And because they were basically on government subsidy -- so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never, they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered are they were better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things? Or are they better off under government subsidy?"

I think of this quote:

"When I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."

35 posted on 04/25/2014 9:38:21 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Even Bundy’s edited comments were not racist, they were just politically incorrect.


36 posted on 04/25/2014 9:39:08 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: DoodleDawg

Horrifically racist? WTF? Horrifically? Jesus..this country is toast.


37 posted on 04/25/2014 9:39:15 AM PDT by gwgn02
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Horrifically racist? WTF? Horrifically? Jesus..this country is toast.

Call it racist if you wish. I just think it was a really stupid thing to say.

38 posted on 04/25/2014 9:41:52 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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39 posted on 04/25/2014 9:42:14 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DTogo; cripplecreek
Agreed. I posted this on another thread last night..

"I would venture to say that Mr. Bundy has gone to bed bone tired, with every muscle aching, more nights than not, but with a heart full of gratitude for the freedom to enjoy the fruits of working so hard that it hurts. He was not expressing racism, IMHO, but pain at the inability of so many of his fellow men to have the opportunity to do likewise. So the man's not a great orator...I'll take the in-artful statement of a man who knows how to work over the soaring rhetoric of an elitist snake any day. "

40 posted on 04/25/2014 9:42:20 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (No Mo (zilla). I'm going to the Opera instead.)
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