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This is another Ukrainian news source translated into English: UNIAN. Be sure to select "ENG" in the top-right corner.
1 posted on 04/27/2014 12:24:21 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex

August 1, 2013

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-divided-over-wwii-legacy-100702056.html


2 posted on 04/27/2014 12:30:34 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: annalex

Great link and article


3 posted on 04/27/2014 12:31:31 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; andyk; AlexW; BatGuano; bayliving; Belteshazzar; bert; Bibman; Bigg Red; ...
If you want to be on this right wing, monarchy, paleolibertarianism and nationalism ping list, but are not, please let me know. If you are on it and want to be off, also let me know. This ping list is not used for Catholic-Protestant debates; all confessions are welcome.

As a nationalist, I am hugely disappointed in the behavior of many European nationalists that supported Putin over the fellow nationalists in Ukraine. This article points to the irony of the modern use of the nationalist label and the obsession with calling various people Hitler. It also shows, I suspect, the Ukrainians' balanced view on themselves.

I posted something on this topic previously: Putin's Western Allies: Why Europe's Far Right Is on the Kremlin's Side

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4 posted on 04/27/2014 12:32:38 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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Like the word “racist” in this country, “Fascist” in Europe generally means, “Somebody who doesn’t agree with me.”


8 posted on 04/27/2014 1:15:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Yet, it’s a very accurate assessment. There are contradictions and different reasons why these people on the extremes of politics slavishly follow the Putin line, but for the most part these misfits and nut jobs behind him are not conservatives in any traditional sense of the way that political philosophy has been understood.


9 posted on 04/27/2014 1:42:18 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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Good survey article. Thanks for posting.

I recommend ‘Victims of Yalta’ by Tolstoi and ‘The Nation Killers’ by Conquest to appreciate the sensibilities of Eastern Europeans regarding noble Wilsonian aspirations from abroad.


21 posted on 04/27/2014 5:36:14 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: annalex

The problem with this is that in the minds of the Eurocrats in Brussels, anyone who opposes them is a “fascist” or a “Nazi”. Geert Wilders and his VVP, Liberty GB, and Ukip all get accused of being “fascist”, even though the first is classically liberal on economic issues and liberal in the American sense on social issues but strays from the fold in having the clarity of vision to see Islam as threat to Western civilization whether Christian or secularist, and the latter two are British analogues of the Tea Party and fully in the tradition of Edmund Burke, Lord Acton and Winston Churchill. Any nationalism which opposed subordination of national culture to pan-European regulation from Brussels, including the delusional acceptance of Islam as an ordinary religion and the promotion of homosexuality, is “fascist” even when it isn’t, and any nationalism which embraces Brussels (e.g. the Ukrainian variety) isn’t “fascist” even when it’s fascist.


25 posted on 04/27/2014 6:46:00 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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While I certainly appreciate the exposure of Putin's hypocrisy (and that of his "palaeo" supporters), I'm sorry the author(s) felt compelled to label European critics of islam and of European integration as neo-Nazis. This is especially egregious considering that Nazis and neo-Nazis have always been rabidly pro-moslem (and still are) and advocate a united European (racial) state.

I had heard that Jobbik was a front for the Iranian government. Interesting that Putin is a supporter as well.

With all these reminders of European neo-Nazi invocation of oppressed "indigenous" ethnic minorities who need to be annexed by their countries of origin, I wonder if I'm the only person thinking of the so-called "left wing" Mexican irridentists in the Southwest?

In its turn, the Northern League stands for independence of Northern Italy and the formation of an independent state Padania . In addition to extreme nationalism, there are some frank slips of racism in the ideology of the party. In particular, the League believes, there are drastic differences between "Northern Italians, adherents of Celtic- Germanic traditions”, and the “lazy Southern-Romans”

This is most interesting. The Northern League is the model for the so-called "League of the South," a neo-Confederate organization whose call for an independent South is based on the alleged "Celtic" identity of Southerners. And if Celts are so great, why are all their nationalist movements left wing?

39 posted on 05/02/2014 8:45:17 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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