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44th anniversary of Kent State shooting: victims and students remember May 4th, 1970 shooting
Newsnet5 Cleveland ^ | 05-04-2014 | Michael Baldwin

Posted on 05/04/2014 7:40:43 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016

KENT, Ohio - A large crowd gathered just after 11 p.m. Saturday behind the Taylor Hall at Kent State University to honor the fallen. The crowd stood near the Victory Bell holding candles in remembrance of May 4th, 1970.

It was 44 years ago that four students were killed after 67 shots were fired in 13 seconds by the National Guard.

The students were pushed over to the parking lot of Prentice Hall as they were protesting the Vietnam War.

Students and volunteers are still standing in the parking lot area where the four students died. The students will stand there for 12 hours honoring the victims in the very spot where they were shot and killed.

Around 7 p.m. Saturday, a forum was held where survivors answered questions and spoke about the day they will never forget.

"To me, May 4th means life, but it also means death and murder," said Dean Kahler, who was shot and will never walk again.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsnet5.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 1970; 197005; 19700504; anniversary; college; kent; kentstate; kentstateuniversity; nationalguard; ohio; shooting; university
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To: fwdude
Using an M1 Garand also showed that the 30-06 had lots more power than the M-16 mouse gun. The M2 bullet kept on going and going and going. Besides, it could have been worse.


21 posted on 05/04/2014 8:20:13 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

They deserved getting shot. I doubt I will find any politician or reporter who will agree with me but they were running wild destroying property and hurling stones, bricks etc.

Someone needed to stop them even with deadly force.


22 posted on 05/04/2014 8:21:45 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: PaulCruz2016
They weren't all students.

At least one of them was just hanging around the revolution.

I was on the ground at Ohio State when this madness went on. I saw a lot--including organizers with walkie-talkies, and the same girl carried out of "battle" three times for the benefit of cameras.
23 posted on 05/04/2014 8:24:04 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: PaulCruz2016
Almost everybody is familiar with the iconic photo of Mary Vecchio kneeling by the dead student. There was actually another photo taken of the same scene about 30 seconds prior. In the photo below, you can see Mary Vecchio at the far right as she approaches the body.

Just thought some would find that interesting for historical purposes. Don't know who the middle-age guy is in the foreground. Kind of looks like Albert Grossman - Bob Dylan's manager. I like all this history but damn, didn't anybody carry color cameras on that day? It's 1970 after all.


24 posted on 05/04/2014 8:24:46 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: lightman
This was worse than Waco.

What a stupid statement.

You can argue about whether or not Kent State was bad, but what does Waco have to do with it?

Is it a contest?

Or does the Left get One Free Pass at Waco because the Right killed students at Kent State?

25 posted on 05/04/2014 8:28:48 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: PaulCruz2016

No soldiers and Obama’s sleeping,
We’re always on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Benghazi-O.

Gotta get down to it
Al Qaeda is cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew them
And found them dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Gotta get down to it
Al Qaeda is cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew them?
And found them dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

No soldiers and Obama’s sleeping,
We’re always on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Benghazi-O.


26 posted on 05/04/2014 8:30:11 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: 21twelve

Can you guess which age group most supported the war, and which was most against it?


27 posted on 05/04/2014 8:32:48 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Nepeta

I wasn’t there but from what I read about it, two of those who were killed weren’t even at the demonstration but were in a parking lot that happened to be in the line of fire. Why the campus was carrying on as if it was business as usual, I don’t know. In the aftermath Governor Reagan closed all the public universities in California for several days.


28 posted on 05/04/2014 8:37:28 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: texican01; EagleOne

Demonstrations did not end entirely. I was at the University of Kentucky after Kent State. There were large street demonstrations, marches. The ROTC building was burned to the ground and the governor shutdown the campus with the National Guard arriving in personnel carriers, apparently well armed. The next few days there were sporadic demonstrations, somewhat quelled by tear gas.

Only later was it revealed that a disgruntled employee had taken the opportunity to torch the ROTC building, an event totally unrelated to the demonstrations.

I had not taken part in the demonstrations but I did after the Guard arrived as some of them had threatened to shoot one of my classmates, a girl trying to get to class, who did not know the campus was shutdown.


29 posted on 05/04/2014 8:37:29 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: Haiku Guy

Raw goverment power against unarmed civilians.

I was saddened but not shocked by Waco because I’d lived through Kent State.


30 posted on 05/04/2014 8:39:57 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: lightman

This was unfortunate, and at worst a result of things going wrong, Waco was a mass massacre of innocents, that was formally dealt out with planning and preparation, and ruthless execution, yet with no explanation, it appeared to be a message massacre.


31 posted on 05/04/2014 8:43:13 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Why the campus was carrying on as if it was business as usual, I don’t know.

Because no one ever expected the military to start gunning them down.

32 posted on 05/04/2014 8:45:31 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Why the campus was carrying on as if it was business as usual, I don’t know.

Because there were a lot of us trying to get on with getting an education who were NOT raising hell. Most students were NOT involved. In the classes I took, heavily into the sciences, hardly anyone vanished during those days. The art majors were out there playing merry hell. They didn't fall out of bed until at least noon, so you could go just about anyplace without a problem until then.

I had to step over filthy hippies to get to some of my non-science classes. (And they did smell.)

Campus police always knew when things were going to get rough--I'd see them out by the Ag school taping up the glass in their cars.
33 posted on 05/04/2014 8:58:04 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: MuttTheHoople

Correct.


34 posted on 05/04/2014 8:58:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SamAdams76
Vecchio was a Junior High School runaway from Florida who was just hanging out and enjoying the demonstrations. Her iconic picture was on the cover of Time magazine. (a once somewhat credible publication)


35 posted on 05/04/2014 8:59:32 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: ansel12
Because no one ever expected the military to start gunning them down.

The National Guard I dealt with when I showed my ID to get onto campus were always polite, but then, I was not screaming, rushing them, or throwing bricks at them.
36 posted on 05/04/2014 9:00:00 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: PaulCruz2016

I was 16 at the time. I’ve read a bit on the event just like a lot of people.

I do know that many of the protesters were throwing bottles, bricks and rail spikes at the guardsmen.

Sooner or later, something was going to happen. There were some innocent bystanders that were killed, but how can the protesters escape at least some or most of the blame along with the National guardsmen for creating this situation?

I also remember that every left leaning idiot used the Kent State shootings as examples of American oppression - from Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young, to Life Magazine, to every talking head at the time.

A lot of working Americans, whom Nixon dubbed the “silent majority”, were not that upset because after the years of riots in the streets from 1967 to the 1968 Democrat Convention riots to Kent State, it seemed like traditional authority was unable or unwilling to deal with these so-called revolutionaries - who were nothing but Marxist/Communist instigators (Jerry Rubin, Abbie Hoffman, etc.).

The SDS and the Weathermen and other Marxist groups were absolutely jubilant after the shootings because they thought this would be the impetus to the “revolution” by the “people”.

So, my impression was that this whole thing was what the left wanted to happen as a propaganda event. Just as the left wants to use every gun related killing as justification for taking firearms away from American citizens.

Anyway, that was my memory of the event.


37 posted on 05/04/2014 9:04:25 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Nepeta

The National Guard of the time were nice, once when I was in a federal detainment camp with about 3,000 people who weren’t being fed or issued blankets for the days we were there, the Guard, who were supplying the bulk of the guards, fed us a tiny meal, I think a small hamburger, and the rumor was that they had raised the funds for us themselves, since no one else was going to give us anything and we hadn’t eaten since we had been scooped up, days before.


38 posted on 05/04/2014 9:09:17 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: SamAdams76

***Mary Vecchio kneeling by the dead student. ***

According to an article years ago, she later became a prostitute.


39 posted on 05/04/2014 9:11:52 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: ealgeone

This event slowed things down enough that the 1960s were clearly ending, since the adventure of the 60s was wrapping up, I adventured some more, won my permanent draft deferment in mid 1971, and then enlisted in the Army a few months later.


40 posted on 05/04/2014 9:14:52 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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