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California Mileage Tax Would Charge Drivers Based on Distance Driven
http://www.nbclosangeles.com ^ | may 6, 2014 | Jodi Hernandez and Chris Roberts

Posted on 05/07/2014 9:48:35 PM PDT by lowbridge

Sick of the gas tax?

What about a tax on every mile you drive?

A new bill going through Sacramento would tax drivers for every mile they are on the road.

The state gasoline tax of 52.9 cents per gallon could be replaced with a "miles driven fee" of $0.05 cents or so per mile driven, under state legislation proposed by a Bay Area lawmaker.

State transit officials note that there's not nearly enough money available to fix the many bridges and roads in California that are in desperate need of repair.

A federal highway fund, based on taxes on fuel, is expected to run dry this summer.

“We've got to figure out how to pay for infrastructure,” state Sen. Mark DeSaulnier (D-Concord) said. “One philosophy is, if you use it, you should pay for it.”

Under SB 1077, introduced by DeSaulnier, a still-to-be-determined California city would begin taxing motorists in January 2016. The longer your commute, the more you would pay.

That may yet be a tough sell, but a $0.05 per mile fee could raise over $100 billion for roads in some parts of the state, the San Gabriel Valley Tribune reported.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbclosangeles.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: alreadypaid4; alreadypaidfor; ataxisatax; california; chrisroberts; concord; gastax; jodihernandez; lofan; markdesaulnier; mileagetax; moneysuckers; payasyougo; sb1077; tax; taxes; userpays; usetax; whatstheproblem
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To: Gene Eric
“One philosophy is, if you use it, you should pay for it.”

Suppose they applied the same philosophy to people who use food stamps, section 8 housing, affirmative action, drug treatment, subsidies for illegitimacy, STD treatment and all the other favorite lib programs?

141 posted on 05/09/2014 11:36:40 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: maine-iac7

The problem is that between mandated improvements in mileage, and incentives to buy extremely fuel-efficient cars (I just got an electric car - no gas tax!), the next obvious step is to tax per mile regardless of what you’re driving. They’ll just note the odometer during every annual inspection and bill you accordingly.

That they glean even more info about you is just a bonus.


142 posted on 05/09/2014 11:47:18 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: lowbridge
state Sen. Mark DeSaulnier (D-Concord)

says it all. Dims never met a tax they did not love. Kaliforyastan you have what you have. The only way you will survive the invasion from the south, the far East, from Asia, from the Middle East is to say enough is enough and take your state back. Otherwise, you are dead. Or, do the best thing you can do for yourself and family, pack up and leave. No job is worth having to give half of what you earn to the state. Make less somewhere else and pay less tax. You'd be happier in a FREE state.

143 posted on 05/09/2014 12:56:57 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: lowbridge

The gas tax is a mileage tax.


144 posted on 05/09/2014 12:57:59 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: lowbridge

Resistance to the tax will take the form of reduced driving. It will have the effect of an overall revenue reduction. The popularity of biking will increase.


145 posted on 05/09/2014 1:39:10 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama stands for the corruption of America in all aspects.)
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To: ctdonath2; All
They’ll just note the odometer during every annual inspection and bill you accordingly.

Oh my. Hardly.

Cars will use the same tracking that big rigs NOW USE - they not only will know exactly how many miles you drive each day - but WHERE -

and they will have your location, at all times, to the square foot.

They will also know if you break the speed limit somewhere AND if you make a 'hard brake' incident - which will impact your insurance and make it easier for yanking your license altogether. The goal - if you know anything about Agenda 21, is to curtail movement of 'the citizenry'.

And THAT is the purpose.

Wake up, people. Stop just looking at what they SAY - look behind the curtain.

146 posted on 05/09/2014 3:21:53 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Captain Compassion

Those ag check stations at the borders will become out of state toll booths


147 posted on 05/09/2014 4:23:32 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%i)
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To: dsrtsage

>Those ag check stations at the borders will become out of state toll booths

They will have to build a lot more of them or close a lot of roads. I got a 4WD.

CC


148 posted on 05/09/2014 7:21:22 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: unixfox

Hmmm... A localized EMP should work wonders... Not too hard to build. Of course, your digital speedometer might stop too.


149 posted on 05/09/2014 11:40:55 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: WildHighlander57

I’m counting the days and have been talking to realtors.


150 posted on 05/10/2014 11:21:49 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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To: lowbridge
Don't have the funds to pay for roads?

California’s total state and local tax burden in 2010 ranks 4th, at a rate of 11.2% of per capita income compared to the national average of 9.9%.

CA is also 12th in GSP per capita.

Summary - overtaxed and mismanaged.

151 posted on 05/10/2014 4:31:25 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Grampa Dave
“What if restaurants charged the same for a couple who splits a meal, has one glass of house wine each and shares a salad, and a dessert versus a couple demanding several name brand drinks before dinner, ordering two of the most expensive entrees, salads, ordering the most expensive wine in the restaurant, having two of the most expensive desserts in the restaurant with an expensive after dinner drink and a expensive coffee combo. “

In some cases, such as with a salad bar, restaurants already do charge two people if one item is ordered. Now, if a restaurant did that all the time, I would have many choices. I could patronize other restaurants. I could quit dining out altogether. Though I can cut back on driving, I cannot stop driving completely.

In addition, I do not need to worry about a restaurant tracking my eating habits and raising prices “for my own good.” I don't have to worry about the restaurant using the data to convict me of crimes, or a hacker to steal info from the database. I don't have to worry about low income people or other groups getting waivers.

Your analogy fails.

152 posted on 05/11/2014 6:48:36 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Happy Mother’s day. Your analogy failed.

Conservatives believe in paying for what they use instead of having others pay for their share.

We have tons of pseudo conservatives on Free Republic who never donate to Free Republic and want others to pay for their other life styles.


153 posted on 05/11/2014 7:25:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama cannot divert resources from his war on Americans!)
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To: Grampa Dave

I never argued for others paying for what people use. I simply pointed out the difference between a tax, and a private purchase or donation.


154 posted on 05/11/2014 10:19:32 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Mastador1

The thieves in the California government will steal this money too!


155 posted on 05/11/2014 4:18:31 PM PDT by rubrubrub
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To: spokeshave

The Governators’s car is going to be racking up huge indicated mileage.


156 posted on 05/11/2014 5:13:18 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Chode

(hack***cough**** BABY***cough****hack)


157 posted on 05/11/2014 5:16:03 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
sure, with the right electronics, but it's not like the old days where anybody with a screwdriver could do it...

a new underground business is born

158 posted on 05/11/2014 5:32:30 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: jiggyboy
If it’s 5 cents per mile, then you start getting screwed if you’re doing better than 52.9/5 = 10.5 MPG.

Plus
Federal Fuel Tax and
Sales tax (currently 8.75%
159 posted on 05/12/2014 9:13:25 AM PDT by Foolsgold (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: markman46

California has 2/3 dim majority in both houses, they can do anything they want including changing the vote from top in each party to top 2 period.


160 posted on 05/12/2014 9:54:20 AM PDT by Foolsgold (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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