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Health benefits of wine and chocolate unlikely, new study finds
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Posted on 05/13/2014 9:32:07 PM PDT by chessplayer

A compound found in wine and chocolate may not be linked to improved health as was once claimed, according to a new study.

The compound resveratrol was not associated with less inflammation, cardiovascular disease or cancer or with increased longevity among a group of elderly Italians, researchers found.

Research on resveratrol hit a snag in 2012, when one of the field’s leading researchers was accused of fabricating data.

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To: dfwgator

Who paid for the study?


Big Pharma? Wouldn’t surprise me.


41 posted on 05/14/2014 12:37:24 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Gefn; stansblugrassgrl

Kittens are essential for cardiac health.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbn75LITtlc


42 posted on 05/14/2014 12:43:43 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: chessplayer
Actually, the big backstory here is the researcher who faked the positive data. This guy was operative for years, had a significant position a the university he was at, pulled in a fair amount of federal grant money, and made the circuit as a hotshot researcher - all on b.s. data. This is so much more common than most would imagine.
43 posted on 05/14/2014 3:25:13 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Gene Eric
It's hard to know what to think. Most everyone has a conflict of interest, including drug makers, supplement promoters, and one’s family doctor. Also these subjects are complicated. It takes time to personally review and evaluate studies.

That said, my blood pressure has recently dropped from the 130s/90s to about 105/72.

I used to have high triglycerides and LDL, but diet and exercise took care of that. But somewhere along the line my BP inched up and stayed up. My Doc is as conventional as it goes and I knew that he would prescribe drugs. I don't want to take drugs, though I appreciate that there are at least two reasonable views on that topic. Vigorous exercise the day of the test is good enough to drive down BP and fool the doc.

I've spent more than a year trying to bring down my BP “naturally.” I gave it the whole kitchen sink. So now, I don't know what is working. One of my most recent changes is to up my dose of vitamin D3, to 6000 IUs a day. Dr. Jonathan Wright argues that if you don't have enough D, more ACE is created, thereby elevating BP.

44 posted on 05/14/2014 5:29:03 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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To: chessplayer
Health benefits of wine and chocolate unlikely, new study finds

Well, yeah. You need to add beer and bacon!

45 posted on 05/14/2014 5:37:18 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: chessplayer; Gamecock; F15Eagle

Grapefruit is overrated, too. The pulp can put an eye out!


46 posted on 05/14/2014 5:38:20 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: chessplayer

Fear not next month another study will find its all good again. :-)


47 posted on 05/14/2014 7:22:30 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: scripter
Don’t read this! :-)

i do not believe it!!! i love my 88% dark chocolate and my glass of Cab or Shiraz or Old Vine Zin or Malbec... i am still svelte so it must working, right?!!!!

no matter, i am sticking with these high-in-antioxidants indulgences... :)

48 posted on 05/14/2014 8:04:05 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: chessplayer
I'm confident the old studies were correct, and the new studies are wrong......

:-)

49 posted on 05/14/2014 8:06:05 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: mylife

LOL! Yes, I can see how one could easily confuse one with the other. ….I’m holding you responsible for triggering my Sherlock jones!


50 posted on 05/14/2014 8:19:48 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: upsdriver

Thank you. I forgot to take my ginger today.


51 posted on 05/14/2014 8:22:30 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: ChessExpert

Adequate sleep, lower intake of sodium, exercise and other dietary changes can/will lower BP. Are you measuring your daily intake of carbs, fats, proteins, sodium?

To confirm, is your 105/72 without medicine?


52 posted on 05/14/2014 10:37:15 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric
Yes, without medicine.

No, I'm not measuring my daily intakes. But my wife and I are careful to buy low sodium products. We check the labels before buying. We've moved towards (supposedly) healthy fats and oils. We eat allegedly safer meats (wild fish, grass-fed/finished beef), but in smaller portions.

I think we still eat more carbs and sweets than we should. We've gone to healthier cookies. But, at my age - 61, is there a healthy cookie? A better idea for an after lunch or dinner desert would be to eat a strawberry. But we are not there yet, and prefer a couple of cookies after lunch and something like a chocolate muffin after dinner.

53 posted on 05/14/2014 11:39:58 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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To: latina4dubya

The problem with studies is you have to really read the results to know what’s going on. Reporters very rarely get it right no matter what the subject. From the study there are still benefits but you wouldn’t get that from the title. I’m not giving it up either!


54 posted on 05/14/2014 1:23:21 PM PDT by scripter
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To: scripter
I’m not giving it up either!

next time we meet we shall toast to dark chocolate-red wine indulgences :)

55 posted on 05/14/2014 1:34:23 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: scripter
let me be specific...

next time we meet we shall toast to dark chocolate-red wine indulgences WITH dark chocolate-red wine indulgences :)

56 posted on 05/14/2014 1:38:04 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: chessplayer

“They’re now denouncing the health benefits of fish oil, too.

My HDL did increase with fish oil, but it also increased tremenously with olive oil.


57 posted on 05/14/2014 2:09:02 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: upsdriver

“Curcumin

Ginger”

Thanks. I wonder if it works for arthritis, as well as fighting heart disease.


58 posted on 05/14/2014 2:11:40 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Yaelle

“What increases inflammation is rancid seed oils. Safflower and canola ..”

Thanx, I’ll make sure to avoid those.


59 posted on 05/14/2014 2:13:37 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: ChessExpert

I’ve been taking 5,000 IU Vit. D3 for years, and it didn’t reduce my high BP. But I guess everybody is different. Glad it worked for you.


60 posted on 05/14/2014 2:18:26 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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