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Jesus Would not Coexist
The Living Church ^ | May 9, 2014 | Karl C. Schaffenburg

Posted on 05/14/2014 8:22:45 PM PDT by hiho hiho

The ubiquitous blue COEXIST bumper sticker incorporates symbols of Islam, pacifism, male and female, Judaism, Wicca, Taoism, and Christianity. Piotr Młodozeniec, a Polish graphic artist, created the original COEXIST image. Various companies sell merchandise with some form of the image, and — o a note of inevitable conflict — some have threatened legal action to protect their control of profits. At it core the image represents a belief that spiritual harmony can be wished into existence.

What is not to admire in this goal? Why would a Christian hesitate to display this sticker during a daily commute? We may begin with how philosophy — that supposedly esoteric pursuit — matters in our everyday lives. A fundamental rule of logic is the “law of noncontradiction”: a statement cannot be both true and untrue.

Consider how the Abrahamic faiths understand Jesus Christ. At John 14:6, Jesus says, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except by me.” Judaism considers Jesus a prophet but not the Messiah. In Islam, Isa (Jesus) is a messenger of God. Islam makes the specific claim that revelation did not end with “the people of the book” (the Jews) or with the prophet Isa, but with Muhammad.

Jesus cannot coexist with contradictory claims to truth made in other faiths. If Jesus had been content with coexistence he might have escaped crucifixion. We should live peaceably with all people (Rom. 12:18), but we ought not reduce this peace to a glib assertion that all paths lead to God. The assertion that all faiths are the same and there is no exclusive truth is itself a doctrine, and one that excludes all but the universalist. It represents an incoherent quest for tolerance.

What, then, about a coherent philosophy of tolerance? What about the idea that all faiths contain and reveal some elements of truth? This is, in fact, classical Christian doctrine. In Anglicanism we confess that our faith is informed by Scripture, reason, and tradition. Reason, sometimes referred to as natural law, says that because human beings are created in the image and likeness of God (Gen. 1:26) we have an ability to observe creation and gain some knowledge about God the Creator. We can apprehend truth. Faith is a human act, and in non-Christian religions we still find a very human seeking after truth. We recognize in each other a shared humanity and seek something (Someone) greater than ourselves.

The real danger of COEXIST, besides sloppy thinking, is its underlying assumption that how we live is ultimately a matter of human agency. The lessons of history, across societies, make clear that we will never achieve peace and harmony on our own. The purpose of life is determined from beyond humanity. Living in a society in which there is no dysfunction (even if this were possible) is not the same as attaining the kingdom of heaven, in which we are one with our Creator and see “face to face” (1 Cor. 13:12). Coexistence that treats Jesus Christ merely as an important moral teacher disregards that he revealed himself as God and reduces the saving act of God to a set of rules. It claims that if we live in a certain way we will attain salvation, thus toying with Pelagianism. For this reason, COEXIST is unworthy of anything more than a bumper sticker.


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To: hiho hiho

I prefer the rebuttal bumper stickers. My last 2 ASK about “Coexist?” with appropriate rebutting symbols.

I really, really hate those pompous, self-righteous condescending stickers.


21 posted on 05/14/2014 8:51:53 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: hiho hiho

Christianity and Islam cannot coexist. Impossible.


22 posted on 05/14/2014 9:00:04 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: hiho hiho

23 posted on 05/14/2014 9:00:21 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: caprock

Yup, the offshoot of Coexist.

I also want a symbolic “Communist” rebuttal sticker.


24 posted on 05/14/2014 9:03:14 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Nevadan

It’s not mine. I’ve seen it posted before and thought it fit here.


25 posted on 05/14/2014 9:06:20 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: logic101.net

good point.

Since Islam does not want to coexist with the others, this whole concept falls apart, in my opinion.

How do you coexist when others don’t want to coexist with you?


26 posted on 05/14/2014 9:18:13 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: CitizenUSA
Jesus was either a madman or the Son of God. Jesus himself left us no other alternatives.

There is a third alternative (there is always a third alternative... and a fourth... and a...):

Jesus could have been misquoted (like the billions of Jews and Muslims and Mormons and even many non-theists in the world believe).

No, wait: They had live sound feeds or at least stenographers back in Roman times, didn't they? No, I guess not. Well, then I guess that I'm sticking with "misquoted."

Regards,

27 posted on 05/14/2014 9:20:01 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Good take down of an idiot slogan.
28 posted on 05/14/2014 9:29:00 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Objective Scrutator

I agree with most of your statement, but I would group Judaism along with Christianity as a world wide faith that is based on love of God and your fellow man. Both faiths believe in the power of kindness and compassion. Both faiths view kindness, empathy and personal dignity as strengths and qualities of an evolved society, not as evidence of weakness and passivity.


29 posted on 05/14/2014 9:29:48 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: caprock

As the article points out, these religions cannot coexist because they hold completely incompatible and contradictory views. Jesus claimed to be the Son of God. He said if you saw Him (Jesus), you saw God the Father (John 14:9). A wise man, prophet, or teacher wouldn’t claim to be the Son of God. Only a madman would claim something like that unless, of course, Jesus really was the Son of God, perfectly attuned and aligned with God the Father so that if you saw Him (Jesus) you also saw the Father.


30 posted on 05/14/2014 9:37:34 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: alexander_busek

Well, you’re right. There are always far less plausible alternatives, but once you go very far down that path, there really isn’t anything left to believe in, is there.


31 posted on 05/14/2014 10:03:46 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: alexander_busek
And the miracles he performed, etc? I'd say you would have to say the New Testament was either true as a whole or basically a work of fiction. You accept Jesus bringing Lazarus back from the dead but think he's misquoted about being the Son Of God?

I'm guessing your tagline relates to your feelings on the subject. The extraordinary evidence I would point to would be the Christians you would find in a true, born again, Christian church. I certainly know there are many exceptions to the rule, but I'd say the strongest devil's advocate would have a hard time denying that people like Tim Tebow, Sarah Palin, etc. have a special aura about them that comes when Christ has entered your life. And I would argue that such as effect would not be there if they were merely following a misquoted philosopher. I'm going sleepy bye now. All the best.

32 posted on 05/14/2014 10:10:55 PM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: CitizenUSA

lunatic, liar, or Lord. everyone must decide for themselves. the overwhelming evidence points to Lord.


33 posted on 05/14/2014 10:27:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It’s ultimately personal presence that proves out the Lord. We can argue over “history books” till we are blue in the face. But when we meet the Lord, we know what has happened.


34 posted on 05/14/2014 11:14:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: bramps

People who rule out the supernatural a priori are only deifying themselves.


35 posted on 05/14/2014 11:15:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

i agree.


36 posted on 05/14/2014 11:20:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Agreed! He left no doubt about who He is as the Scriptures you cited attest.


37 posted on 05/14/2014 11:20:36 PM PDT by caprock
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To: caprock

I think just about everybody who hears the story has a pretty good idea about what it’s about.

It’s the personal applicability part that’s hard.

I used to be about one of the most stubborn snots there could have been about Jesus. Now He has made Himself obvious to me, and His love intention shows.

God loves you enough that He will annoy the devil out of you.


38 posted on 05/14/2014 11:24:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: hiho hiho
"If Jesus had been content with coexistence he might have escaped crucifixion."

And made God the Father a liar....

39 posted on 05/15/2014 4:07:01 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: hiho hiho

You can not “coexist” with those who wish you converted, enslaved or dead.


40 posted on 05/15/2014 7:01:10 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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