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Scott Walker: Gay Marriage Accepted by Young Conservatives [Mar 2013]
NewsMax ^ | 17 Mar 2013 | Greg Richter

Posted on 05/18/2014 2:37:46 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

Edited on 05/18/2014 5:17:20 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Same-sex marriage is accepted by younger conservatives and won’t likely be an issue in upcoming political races, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said.

Appearing Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," Walker was asked whether younger conservatives are “more apt to see marriage equality as something that is … what they believe, that is basic rather than as a disqualifying issue?”

“I think there’s no doubt about that,” Walker said. “But I think that’s all the more reason, when I talk about things, I talk about the economic and fiscal crises in our state and in our country, that’s what people want to resonate about. They don’t want to get focused on those issues.”

The discussion stemmed from Republican Sen. Rob Portman’s announcement last week that he has changed his position on same-sex marriage because he wants his son, who is gay, to have the same “joy and stability of marriage” that he has had and that he wishes for his other two children.

Noted Walker: “I’ve had young people ask me …why the government is sanctioning it in the first place?” He suggested it be left up to “the churches and the synagouges and others to define that.”

Republican Ana Navarro noted that “as the youngest person on this panel, I think it’s generational.” It is an issue of tolerance, she said. “I want people who are pro-traditional marriage to tolerate my views and don’t think that makes me less moral or less of a Republican. And I need to tolerate the views of those who think marriage is just a man and a woman and

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; demagogicparty; election2014; election2016; homosexualagenda; kentucky; memebuilding; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; scottwalker; walker; wisconsin
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1 posted on 05/18/2014 2:37:46 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Uh, if they’re accepting homosexual marriage they’re not conservatives.


2 posted on 05/18/2014 2:39:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SoConPubbie

It depends what you mean by “conservatives.”

Real conservatives support traditional, morally healthy families and the right to life.


3 posted on 05/18/2014 2:40:08 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Jim Robinson

And they sure don’t go to church.


4 posted on 05/18/2014 2:40:31 PM PDT by FES0844
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To: SoConPubbie

That’s like saying young “conservatives” accept the communist agenda.


6 posted on 05/18/2014 2:41:21 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bingo! Rather crazy when India elects pro-marriage candidates in a landslide while America slips into backwardness.


7 posted on 05/18/2014 2:43:26 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: SoConPubbie
Maybe the collapse can hold off for a few more years. Après moi le déluge.
8 posted on 05/18/2014 2:45:45 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Jim Robinson

This could mean one of two things

(1) he truly doesn’t care (which is wrong)
(2) he doesn’t want to let it become a sideshow (might or might not be wise)

It could well be succeeding in digging its own grave, in which case it’s legitimate to ask: why interfere.


9 posted on 05/18/2014 2:46:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SoConPubbie; All
“But I think that’s all the more reason, when I talk about things, I talk about the economic and fiscal crises in our state and in our country, that’s what people want to resonate about. They don’t want to get focused on those issues.”

The anti-conservative liberal media, including Obama guard dog Fx News, undoubtedly has a list of issues that they know will divert the attention of conservatives from trying to stop the unconstitutionally big federal government from stealing more state powers.

10 posted on 05/18/2014 2:47:12 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: SoConPubbie

It is true that homosexuality is a non-issue for young people, simply because religion and church have no impact on their life. The difference between the pro-family and the pro-life movement is that the later has succeeded in framing its arguments in secular terminology the unchurched youth can understand. The pro-family movement has been framed as a anti-gay, Bible based movement, and most post-Christian or pseudo-Christian Americans cannot relate to that.

A revival needs to come before anything can be done against the homosexual agenda.


11 posted on 05/18/2014 2:47:40 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: BurningOak
A revival needs to come before anything can be done against the homosexual agenda.

True, but it should not stop honorable and Christian men and women from fighting it wherever this evil is found.
12 posted on 05/18/2014 2:48:39 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

SO what are they going to come to accept next, child molesters and baby killers....oh wait we’re already there.


13 posted on 05/18/2014 2:49:28 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Gay marriage is accepted by NO conservatives.


14 posted on 05/18/2014 2:49:37 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Fights should be carried out with proper preparation (and, needless to say, good theology).


15 posted on 05/18/2014 2:49:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Uh, if they’re accepting homosexual marriage they’re not conservatives.

True, and given the way too clever statement on Scott Walker's part where he doesn't state they are wrong and/or takes a strong and continuing stand against Homo Marriage, it raises some big fat question marks where Scott Walker is concerned.
16 posted on 05/18/2014 2:49:59 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Walker has a big ego like Rand Paul because he beat a few clowns in an election

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/01/06/scott-walker-to-tea-partiers-lets-focus-on-taking-out-democrats-not-our-fellow-republicans/


17 posted on 05/18/2014 2:50:16 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: HiTech RedNeck; BurningOak
Fights should be carried out with proper preparation (and, needless to say, good theology).

No argument there.

Needless to say, I should not have used the modifier "honorable" for Christian either.

If a man or a woman is truly a Christian, their heart has been transformed and they automatically take up the fight against sin.

There is no such thing as a dishonorable Christian, only Christians.
18 posted on 05/18/2014 2:53:07 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Younger conservatives” include a lot of traditional Christians and members of other major world faiths that have traditional family values. So this is at best a puzzling ambiguity. It would be better to frankly say it’s wrong but he feels the best support for a conservative movement is not gotten by being a one note Johnny. That is what Ron Paul seems to be trying to say as well. However it would be very easy to outright cede the faux-marriage issue. It is a complex and difficult task. Being rooted deeply in spirituality it needs a spiritual answer.


19 posted on 05/18/2014 2:55:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Cicero

Why can’t they just live together like so many straight couples? No, they have to demand something they probably don’t even really want or need. One gay guy I talked to said he wanted to get married for the “dignity”. I always saw marriage as protection for the family, the obligation of the father to take care of the mother and children.


20 posted on 05/18/2014 2:55:28 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks SoConPubbie.
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]

21 posted on 05/18/2014 2:57:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SoConPubbie

Different Christians are in different places in their walk with Christ. Some might not even recognize the sin in some things soon after becoming a believer... and yet be destined for heaven. Give God the credit for knowing how to conduct an education as well as a fight, and don’t presume to know where a servant has to be at a certain moment in order to actually BE a servant.


22 posted on 05/18/2014 2:57:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Whatever this means, it sure is unacceptable if it means expecting traditionalists to just shut up.


23 posted on 05/18/2014 2:59:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SoConPubbie
. . . don’t think that makes me less moral . . .

Sorry, but it does.

24 posted on 05/18/2014 3:00:01 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: SoConPubbie

Team Romney has imposed by Romney
1) Gay marriage
2) Polygamy (like Romney’s own family)
3) RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE,
and bestiality is coming.

How in the world do these insane phoneys
claim to be “conservative”.


25 posted on 05/18/2014 3:00:13 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: SoConPubbie
There's a confusion among young conservatives and others between permission and support. The doing away with laws that outlaw sodomy is permission of private, consenting adult sodomy. But state-sponsored "gay marriage" is support and sanctioning of sodomy.

Many, not just young conservatives, fail to make this critical and important distinction. If they distinguished the two, I would think they would support doing away with laws outlawing private sodomy between two adults but would not support gay marriage.

26 posted on 05/18/2014 3:06:19 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Jim Robinson
Uh, if they’re accepting homosexual marriage they’re not conservatives

It's an attempt by pseudo-conservatives to redefine Conservatism, so as to dilute it and make it less of a threat to the Left.

27 posted on 05/18/2014 3:08:50 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: SoConPubbie
The discussion stemmed from Republican Sen. Rob Portman’s announcement last week that he has changed his position on same-sex marriage because he wants his son, who is gay, to have the same “joy and stability of marriage” that he has had and that he wishes for his other two children.

Unfortunately, Republican Sen. Rob Portman is a victim of fuzzy thinking. Same sex marriage is NOT a civil rights issue in the same way that interracial marriage was a civil rights issue between a man and a woman. Men and women have equal rights. Men and women are NOT interchangeable.

You cannot avoid compromising the health and safety of all people because you want your son to be happy. People with disordered minds covet what they can NEVER have. Men living with men are friends. Women living with women are friends.

The generation that believes that men and women are interchangeable are either the Last generation or the Lost generation. Foolish and self deceiving opinions will lose out to reality and natural law. Foolish and self deceiving opinions will result in chaos.

28 posted on 05/18/2014 3:09:03 PM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: BurningOak

very astute observations.

Praise God, though, that it does seem we are slowly turning the tide on life.....


29 posted on 05/18/2014 3:09:11 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Jim Robinson

You don’t think that “It’s for the Children” meant something beyond “We are coming for your Children”, do you?

So we get to the real problem. NATIONAL BASED EDUCATION aka/liberal indoctrination. If that can’t be stopped cold and the power to educate returned to local control, there is no battle to fight. The war is over except for the burying and crying.


30 posted on 05/18/2014 3:13:02 PM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: BurningOak
The difference between the pro-family and the pro-life movement is that the later has succeeded in framing its arguments in secular terminology the unchurched youth can understand. The pro-family movement has been framed as a anti-gay, Bible based movement, and most post-Christian or pseudo-Christian Americans cannot relate to that.

Well, the Bible refers to queerdom as an abomination unto the Lord, but just like baby-killing, it can become an abomination to society, namely public health. I think they can relate to that.

Every aspect of the faggotic deathstyle needs to be exposed with a "did you know that they..." statement, laying out in appropriate language, the honest truth about what the packers do "behind closed doors".

If they want to have mainstream and acceptance and wish to "out" themselves...give them a helping hand. Out their filthy perverted practices.

Get the seeds planted among the young, including the roving STD bomb each rump-ranger is; naming the more dangerous contagions such as hepatitis, explaining how they prefer engaging in unprotected sex, how they consider "having the bug" (AIDS) to be a status symbol, and describing their coprophagic practices.

Absolutely throw down the statistical life expectancy of the average American sodomite, and ask why they are being allowed to harvest our young boys and sentence them to the same early death.

If there isn't already, there should be a pamphlet on this topic outlining in detail all of the above, maybe with illustrations. All the information is out there.

Yeah, it would be disgusting and pornographic, but how else can you address their squalid activity.

I'll bet having received the factual reality...any young person would think twice before letting an obvious flamer serve them their food.

31 posted on 05/18/2014 3:16:39 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Cicero

Actually it depends on what you think marriage is?


32 posted on 05/18/2014 3:19:13 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: svcw
it depends on what you think marriage is

It's a tenet of all religions that has been the same for centuries.

This includes the government how?

33 posted on 05/18/2014 3:25:20 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Rob Portman thinks his son can have the same stablity that a heterosexual marriage can provide? Talk about delusional.


34 posted on 05/18/2014 3:26:42 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: SoConPubbie

So much for him. Hell they are all sell outs.


35 posted on 05/18/2014 3:27:22 PM PDT by dforest
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To: SoConPubbie
"True, but it should not stop honorable and Christian men and women from fighting it wherever this evil is found."

Exactly.

36 posted on 05/18/2014 3:46:08 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: SoConPubbie

Why are you posting something from March 2013?


37 posted on 05/18/2014 3:49:14 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Flavious_Maximus
Why are you posting something from March 2013?

Because it should give you a glimpse of how Scott Walker thinks, and he wants to be POTUS.

Forewarned is Prepared!
38 posted on 05/18/2014 3:58:14 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Why are you posting OLD articles? You are a sleaze.


39 posted on 05/18/2014 4:25:20 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I agree.


40 posted on 05/18/2014 4:26:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ http://www.freerepublic.com/~bigheadfred/)
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To: SoConPubbie

old article: are you trying to trash scott walker. someone who, if he were to run for president, i could actually vote for (versus say romney).


41 posted on 05/18/2014 5:04:29 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: SoConPubbie

Marriage Equality?
We already have that. Every citzen in America has the same right to marry as every other citizen. The homosexuals want special rights to allow then to marry..


42 posted on 05/18/2014 5:08:45 PM PDT by 48th SPS
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To: SoConPubbie
Complete breakdown of the language. That headline doesn't even make any senses. “Gay” is not the same as Sodomite, and two men cannot be married.
43 posted on 05/18/2014 5:19:06 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The government has no place in marriage.


44 posted on 05/18/2014 6:21:38 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: dadfly
old article: are you trying to trash scott walker. someone who, if he were to run for president, i could actually vote for (versus say romney).

No. Scott Walker trashed himself with his statements on this issue.
45 posted on 05/18/2014 7:40:23 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: napscoordinator
Why are you posting OLD articles? You are a sleaze.

Why are you objecting to posting articles about potential POTUS candidates that reveal their positions, or how they are thinking on issues in their own words?
46 posted on 05/18/2014 7:41:33 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Bump


47 posted on 05/18/2014 7:42:04 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Walker accepted the “marriage equality” canard, so now he has aligned with the enemy.


48 posted on 05/18/2014 8:09:29 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: SoConPubbie

At least wait until he announces is all I ask. Obviously we are going to play “wack the mole” throughout the campaign and end up with somebody neither one of us wants. But that is the way we roll....beat up on our candidate and then complain during the general about the nominee....vote for the jerk.....and then complain that he loses and then we get to complain the next 4 years about the Democrat who won. Vicious cycle that I guess we are starting earlier then ever....bashing people who have not announced yet is pretty low even for some of you who hate everyone.


49 posted on 05/18/2014 8:15:51 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: SoConPubbie

ok. i’ll respond, once. first i don’t *trust* any journalist or politician. it’s degrees of distrust for me. that being said, i distrust scott walker far less then any but a handful of politicians on this planet.

imo, there’s not an American politician *in office* outside of Joe Arpaio and lately Ted Cruz who has advanced the conservative agenda more than Scott Walker in the short time i’ve been following politics (the last 5 years). Scott Walker is one of the few conservatives who have actually stood up, walked his conservative talk, stood in the breech, toe to toe with the enemy, represented my views and walked away the victor. and you just want to throw him away?

for instance, some people here *claim* he’s for amnesty. well, i haven’t heard that. has he said flat out that he supports rubio’s bill? if that’s true, then i can no longer support him. i’ve heard him say in a video last year that he’s for the *existing* pathway to citizenship. that’s a pathway my mom used to become US citizen. i’ve got zero problem with legal immigrants. if he says he’d rather focus on beating on dems, ok, his *style* is perhaps less confrontational than mine with the GOPe. frankly, he’s taken the heat. i give him credit for taking that heat; i give him the benefit of experience, especially given how he’s a proven fighter and winner against the dem union thugs who threw everything they had at him.

so no. i’m not throwing Scott Walker under the bus based on what i’ve seen here so far. certainly not for words reported by “the media” when the bulk of his *actions* as a conservative speak so eloquently for him.


50 posted on 05/18/2014 8:17:43 PM PDT by dadfly
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