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Scott Walker to tea partiers: Lets focus on taking out Democrats, not our fellow Republicans
Hot Air ^ | January 6, 2014

Posted on 05/18/2014 2:57:03 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

Some righties are grumbling about this, but c’mon. No one expects a Republican governor who’s up for reelection in a blue state to lead the “throw the RINOs out!” movement. Besides, this makes strategic sense if I’m right about Walker’s niche in the 2016 field. I see him as an establishment/tea party “hybrid” candidate who’ll challenge Christie from the right (especially on social issues) and whoever emerges as the tea-party favorite from the center (especially on immigration). His war with the left over collective bargaining reform in Wisconsin is already so legendary that there’s practically nothing he could do to ruin his conservative cred before the primaries. He’ll be acceptable to tea partiers. His task now is to make sure he’s acceptable to establishmentarians too before they settle on Christie and one obvious way to do that is to discourage tea partiers from challenging Republican incumbents. He opposed the shutdown for similar reasons, I assume, saying at the time, “I support limited government. But I want the government left to work.” That might well be his 2016 campaign slogan — and Christie’s too. Christie will simply have a harder time selling it to righties than Walker will. There may well be a new debt-ceiling standoff next month over ObamaCare (or maybe not). How do you suppose Walker will come down on that one?

Is this true, though?

[G]o and help in those elections [against vulnerable Democrats] and elect new Republicans because a year from now things will be much different if Republicans hold the United States Senate.

How? Obama might have to use his veto a lot more next year, but that’s fine by him. He’s a lame duck. At best, forcing a lightning rod like O to play goalie against GOP initiatives instead of leaving it to Harry Reid will free up a few centrist Democrats like Joe Manchin to vote with Republicans on hot-button issues knowing that they have no chance of becoming law. And this assumes, of course, that Republicans build on Reid’s precedent and nuke what’s left of the filibuster so that they can pass bills through the Senate with a simple majority. I’m not sure they will. They gain nothing politically from it given the reality of O’s veto and they’ll take a predictable beating for it from lefty hacks in the media (all of whom cheered Reid for nuking the filibuster vis-a-vis executive appointments). Worse, Democrats will be primed to exploit the new rule in 2017: It’s the GOP that’ll be defending the lion’s share of vulnerable seats in the 2016 election, which is bound to have higher Democratic turnout than usual because it’s a presidential election year. It’s worth nuking the rest of the filibuster if/when Republicans once again control the Senate and the White House. Before then, why?

The only important difference in having GOP control of the Senate next year is that Republicans will be able to veto Obama’s appointments, including/especially Supreme Court appointments. They can still do that now in theory since the filibuster remains in effect for SCOTUS nominees, but if someone on the Court resigns this year, it’s a cinch that Reid will go ahead and nuke that provision too. Having 51 Republicans for the last two years of O’s term would solve that problem going forward — if they hang together and vote unanimously against a bad Obama appointment. You trust Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, John McCain, and Mark Kirk to do that, don’t you?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
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1 posted on 05/18/2014 2:57:03 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Scott Walker thinks any Mexican who promises to behave is welcome.


2 posted on 05/18/2014 2:57:58 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: SoConPubbie

Whatever happens no more Busch names


3 posted on 05/18/2014 2:59:50 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: SoConPubbie
It shouldn't be so damned hard to sort them out!

Remember, Bloomberg claimed to be a republican.

4 posted on 05/18/2014 2:59:52 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SoConPubbie

Why are you reposting an article from early January on May 18?


5 posted on 05/18/2014 3:00:08 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
Scott Walker thinks any Mexican who promises to behave is welcome.

I prefer Cruz, but that is pure BS.

6 posted on 05/18/2014 3:01:34 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: SoConPubbie

A backstabbing Republican is more dangerous than a full frontal assaulting Democrat


7 posted on 05/18/2014 3:01:40 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: SoConPubbie

Hey Scott, they are Democrats masquerading as Pubbies. Get lost.


8 posted on 05/18/2014 3:02:44 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: SoConPubbie

Sometimes, I get the impression that the snake on the Gadsen flag should be replaced with an uroboros .


9 posted on 05/18/2014 3:03:21 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Bigtigermike
Are you really suggesting Scott Walker is some kind of RINO squish backstabber GOPE favorite?
10 posted on 05/18/2014 3:03:35 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: SoConPubbie

Walker is a pro-amnesty RINO.

He became something of a conservative folk hero with his union reform, but he had seen Mitch Daniels do something similar without blowback in Indiana and had simply thought it would be an innocuous budget-friendly reform to institute in WI.

Sure, he may try to wrap himself in a tea party cloak in order to run nationally, but we shouldn’t fall for it.


11 posted on 05/18/2014 3:05:31 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Lakeshark

That is not pure BS. Walker has expressly used Mexico as an example in saying that he wants open borders for all who want to come here. He wants us to make it super-easy for every single prospective immigrant to come here legally, so nobody will bother coming here illegally.


12 posted on 05/18/2014 3:06:59 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SoConPubbie

13 posted on 05/18/2014 3:07:15 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Lakeshark

Scott Walker is some kind of RINO squish backstabber GOPe favority.


14 posted on 05/18/2014 3:07:35 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SoConPubbie

To think I sent the creep money the first time around.


15 posted on 05/18/2014 3:07:52 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (“the love that dare not speak its name” to “the love that will not shut its *bleeping* mouth”)
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To: Lakeshark

It’s about creating dissension.

It’s okay to support you favorite candidate, nothing wrong with that.

But using the lefts rhetoric makes some of us useful fools.


16 posted on 05/18/2014 3:08:20 PM PDT by damncat
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To: 9YearLurker

Scott Walker was fine, when it comes to getting the public sector unions in line. But it turns out his interest was the cheap labor, which ties nicely with his support of the invasion of the US. My impression is he did the right thing for the wrong reason.


17 posted on 05/18/2014 3:09:10 PM PDT by grania
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To: Lakeshark

Heck, the other day I saw someone on here imply that Walker has “legal troubles.” I seem to think it was the same day the Fed threw out the John Doe.

It would appear to me that there are some on here that would not accept anyone beyond their own selected candidate. And that anyone else is fatally flawed.

As far as I can tell, there ain’t a 100% out there. There are a few in the 80% range, each with their own weaknesses.

But to claim to be conservative, then to lie about others on the right, has got to be amongst the slimiest things that we see the far left do. Which makes me ponder the credentials of these folks.


18 posted on 05/18/2014 3:09:49 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: SoConPubbie

“[G]o and help in those elections [against vulnerable Democrats] and elect new Republicans because a year from now things will be much different if Republicans hold the United States Senate.”

Where have I heard that one before?


19 posted on 05/18/2014 3:10:32 PM PDT by Controlling Legal Authority
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To: 9YearLurker

Walker has been an outstanding governor of Wisconsin.....good grief, am I supposed to hate him now, too? Please.

He is not a RINO. He may not line up with you on every issue, but he stood on principles against the unions and won...he deserves to be heard and he is one of very few politicians that does what he says he is going to do...So get a grip...


20 posted on 05/18/2014 3:10:35 PM PDT by Tulane
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To: 9YearLurker
Walker has expressly used Mexico as an example in saying that he wants open borders for all who want to come here. He wants us to make it super-easy for every single prospective immigrant to come here legally, so nobody will bother coming here illegally.

That's pure BS. You can believe it if you want, but believing pure BS isn't good for your brain waves. It's about as believable as a unicorn.

21 posted on 05/18/2014 3:10:41 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

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22 posted on 05/18/2014 3:11:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (How did we go from “the love that dare not speak its name” to “the love that will not shut up?”)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I’ve arrived at the point where I recognize that Scott Walker, while a good Governor at the state level, would never fly the Gadsden flag at the federal level nor stand with those of us who do.

By the way, congratulations on making me have to look up the meaning of a word (i.e., uroboros).


23 posted on 05/18/2014 3:12:24 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

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24 posted on 05/18/2014 3:12:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (How did we go from "the love that dare not speak its name" to "the love that will not shut up?")
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To: SoConPubbie

Can’t really see a difference between a RINO and a Democrat.


25 posted on 05/18/2014 3:13:28 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: VRWC For Truth

Mistake to think that the T.E.A. partiers are exclusively Republican. They are not.

A lot of them are conservatives and libertarians who have no allegiance to the Republican party at all. Some are disgruntled Democrats, and many never identified with any political party ever.

That does not mean the Republicans cannot have a very potent ally in the political races this fall, and years to come. But a truce must be called, or both sides end up wasting ammunition on each other.

The US Army finally had to treat the US Marines like allies in the battle against the Axis Powers in WW II.


26 posted on 05/18/2014 3:13:50 PM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Tell the GOPe to stop treating US like scum!!!!


27 posted on 05/18/2014 3:13:51 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: T. P. Pole
But to claim to be conservative, then to lie about others on the right, has got to be amongst the slimiest things that we see the far left do.

Amen to that. I happen to like Cruz and would prefer him as the R nominee, but this stuff is pure BS and just pisses me off.

28 posted on 05/18/2014 3:13:53 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: grania

Ha—I guess there is a bit of a parallel there. I think he had national ambitions from the start and was indeed looking for a way to make the numbers under his governorship look good enough for him to run for higher office. I too agree with the move, but I’m quite certain he wasn’t expecting it to draw attention and become a fight.


29 posted on 05/18/2014 3:14:50 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SoConPubbie

I say talk full-blown amnesty with all the candy coating and with a nice bow on top. Make it look like the big Christmas present under the tree. Then, after the elections, when the present is unwrapped, all that will be found is a little box with a little seed inside. Then they can say, “We tried, but because of the Democrats, that all you get.” The DemonRAT’s effort to slant the electorate will have backfired.


30 posted on 05/18/2014 3:15:14 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Hey Scott Walker! GFYS!

Sincerely - A member of the TEA Party

31 posted on 05/18/2014 3:15:26 PM PDT by bayliving
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To: Tulane
Any candidate that wants my vote must have a record of being pro-life, pro-gun, against socialized medicine, against amnesty, and for reducing government.

If they don't meet those criteria, they don't get my vote. Which is why I didn't vote for Romney.

You wouldn't think it's that hard for the pubs to find a candidate that actually followed the party platform.

But they can't. And that's why I'm not a Republican.

/johnny

32 posted on 05/18/2014 3:17:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: CGASMIA68
"Whatever happens no more Busch names"

A Bush with any other name is still a Bush!

33 posted on 05/18/2014 3:17:34 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: SoConPubbie

If the republicans wish to regain control of the senate, then we need to unify as a party. Walker is right in that respect. One thing that the democrats are very good at is rallying around their candidate. They keep winning a seat as their prize, and they display unity to do so. The GOP-e spends its time vilifying Tea Party candidates so that some republicans stay home on election day and the rest are split and the democrat wins.

I am not advocating supporting RINOs, but republicans will continue to lose seats as long as this behavior continues.


34 posted on 05/18/2014 3:18:22 PM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: Lakeshark

Do I have to go google his quotes again?

He has very expressly said just that on the record:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/309111-wis-gov-walker-backs-path-to-citizenship-in-immigration-reform-


35 posted on 05/18/2014 3:18:26 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SoConPubbie

How much was Scott Walkers soul?


36 posted on 05/18/2014 3:18:38 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: 353FMG

The Democrat is more honest.


37 posted on 05/18/2014 3:19:19 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Tulane

Sure, he’s been fine as governor, and the union move was a positive one, but he is massively pro-amnesty and would be a disaster as president.


38 posted on 05/18/2014 3:20:34 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
You can do anything you want, but then also put up his claim later that week THAT HE NEVER SAID THAT. But I doubt that means much to you since you have decided he believes what you want everyone to think he believes and that it's some kind of policy statement.

If he runs, he'll have to deal with it, and state how he would handle that issue.

Until then, just cut the BS.

39 posted on 05/18/2014 3:23:49 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: SoConPubbie

Yep. They MUST have the “”hold our nose” crowd to win. I left that crowd a few years ago.

I don’t like the GOPer running, I won’t vote. That simple.


40 posted on 05/18/2014 3:24:36 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: SoConPubbie
"A PEOPLE UNWILLING TO USE EXTREME VIOLENT FORCE TO OBTAIN OR PRESERVE THEIR LIBERTY DESERVE THE TYRANTS THAT RULE THEM." stockpirate
41 posted on 05/18/2014 3:25:04 PM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: SoConPubbie

Hey Scott Walker and the rest of the GOP, YOU FIRST!

Stop undermining and backstabbing Conservatives who manage to win primaries. And no, we won’t join you in “Lewinskying” your Socialist friends on the left!


42 posted on 05/18/2014 3:26:53 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Sometimes, I get the impression that the snake on the Gadsen flag should be replaced with an uroboros.

I like this one:

43 posted on 05/18/2014 3:29:16 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Lakeshark

The burden of proof is on you to show that he denied that later. It was on the record and widely reported.

I’ll be happy to see a link.


44 posted on 05/18/2014 3:30:10 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Walker doesnt care if they are from Russia or Mexico let’s make it easy.


45 posted on 05/18/2014 3:31:20 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: SoConPubbie
Scott Walker to tea partiers: Let’s focus on taking out Democrats, not our fellow Republicans

Scott Walker should instead talk about where he is aligned with "tea partiers," and not talk about "Republicans."

To me, politicians who do not support common sense, borders, language, and culture, fiscal responsibility, scientific facts and not popular culture in connection with life, marriage, and climate change, are too close to Democrats and Satan.

46 posted on 05/18/2014 3:33:15 PM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: SoConPubbie

http://americasvoice.org/blog/wisconsin-governor-scott-walker-flips-from-2010-position-says-he-would-now-push-back-against-sb-1070-style-laws/

http://phoenixteaparty.ning.com/profiles/blogs/ducey-mccain-s-boy-from-1986-till

Walker endorsed the bigger McCainiac in the Governor race in AZ.


47 posted on 05/18/2014 3:35:09 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: SoConPubbie; dcwusmc; Jed Eckert; Recovering Ex-hippie; KingOfVagabonds; Berlin_Freeper; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

48 posted on 05/18/2014 3:35:56 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Scott Walker to tea partiers: Let’s focus on taking out Democrats, not our fellow Republicans

Proof the Tea Party leaders are as dumb as the GOP.

49 posted on 05/18/2014 3:36:00 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Exactly—he’d simply let them all in legally. Everyone. And give citizenship to the illegals already here.


50 posted on 05/18/2014 3:40:25 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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