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"Real cause for worry: Facts on Hillary’s concussion" (by Dr. Brian C. Joondeph, MD, MPS)
NY Post ^ | May 19, 2014 | Dr. Brian C. Joondeph, MD, MPS

Posted on 05/20/2014 6:01:45 AM PDT by xzins

Karl Rove created a stir with his recent suggestion that former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton may have suffered traumatic brain injury in December 2012.

Speaking at a conference in California, he noted, “Thirty days in the hospital? And when she reappears, she’s wearing glasses that are only for people who have traumatic brain injury? We need to know what’s up with that.”

Let’s ignore the media hyperventilating and look at what Rove actually suggested.

Secretary Clinton reportedly “fainted, fell and banged her head,” as The Daily Beast put it, suffering a subdural hematoma, or a hemorrhage between her brain and skull.

While surgery is sometimes needed in such cases, Clinton was “treated with blood thinners on Monday at a New York hospital to help dissolve a blood clot in her head,” CNN reported.

“Disabilities resulting from a TBI depend upon the severity of the injury, the location of the injury, and the age and general health of the individual,” says the NINDS.

And following TBI, “common disabilities include problems with cognition (thinking, memory, and reasoning), sensory processing (sight, hearing, touch, taste and smell), communication (expression and understanding).”

Clinton didn’t just bump her head. Her husband said last week that her injury was, “a terrible concussion that required six months of very serious work to get over.”

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KEYWORDS: braindamage; braintrauma; bushies; crossroads; hillary; hillary2016; karlrove; rove
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Inquiring about a candidate's health after a 6 month convalescence following a terrible concussion seems more than rational. It would be wrong not to inquire.
1 posted on 05/20/2014 6:01:45 AM PDT by xzins
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I was also concerned about a month ago when someone threw a shoe at her, and she scrunched up, turned totally meek and tiptoed around the lectern she was behind.

It was total TIMIDITY on display...a complete withdrawal into herself despite being in front of a large crowd of people.


2 posted on 05/20/2014 6:02:50 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Democrats have nobody else to run. They are so screwed going into 2016 - they put all their eggs in one basket-case.


3 posted on 05/20/2014 6:03:49 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: xzins

I don’t even believe there was any concussion. Or, if there was, she threw herself down the stairs at a convenient time for sympathy and to avoid scrutiny.

Bill began a bombing campaign just when the House was going to vote to impeach him. There is nothing this pair will not do.


4 posted on 05/20/2014 6:04:39 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: xzins

She was a full blown psychopath before the injury. That concerns me more.

But yes, the brain injury, and it was a brain injury, should be open for discussion.


5 posted on 05/20/2014 6:05:16 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Mechanicos

well they could run Hairy Reed...but I doubt he’d fare well.


6 posted on 05/20/2014 6:07:20 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: xzins

This sort of inquiry has already been declared out-of-bounds by Hillary supporters even though scrutiny of potential health issues is usual with male candidates.


7 posted on 05/20/2014 6:08:11 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: SampleMan

With her LIB-diseased brain, brain damage could be a good, corrective thing.


8 posted on 05/20/2014 6:10:03 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: xzins

Let’s face it... the actual resident of the White Hut is just a placeholder for the big-government/big-corporate crony-fascist complex. They don’t make any actual decisions. Those they get through their Blackberries.


9 posted on 05/20/2014 6:10:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: xzins

She had a cerebral sinus thrombosis
in the right transverse venous sinus

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/hillary-clinton-blood-clot-life-threatening-medical-experts/story?id=18101213

http://www.starkoncology.com/news/thrombosis/

This is why she was on blood thinners


10 posted on 05/20/2014 6:12:08 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: luvbach1

Large rimmed, very dark sunglasses are also a common means of hiding black eyes. Imagine a head injury, a black, very bruised eye, and you might have someone who has been beat on.

Take the timid walk around the lectern when the shoe was thrown, and you have a person who doesn’t have the awareness NOT to turn her BACK to an attack.

And then you have Bill who is very, very open in saying “terrible concussion...6 month recovery”

Of ALL people he would know better than to make such an admission in public. The only conclusion was that he knew what he was doing and did it anyway.


11 posted on 05/20/2014 6:15:08 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins; All

“I was also concerned about a month ago when someone threw a shoe at her, and she scrunched up, turned totally meek and tiptoed around the lectern she was behind.”

I know...me too...my dog usually runs after the shoe. Surprised she didn’t, clearly off her “A” game that day I think she could have actually caught it in her mouth, but what do I know, I suppose I have offended Labrador retrievers everywhere for comparing them to her.


12 posted on 05/20/2014 6:15:28 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: xzins

She is only six months younger than RR. RR took a lot of flack about his age and fitness for office. This woman is not fit, and should not run.


13 posted on 05/20/2014 6:16:01 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: xzins

Well it seems that this only counts if you are runningf against the demonkrats. i never heard of a Demmy, since The rapist got elected, giving up their medical records.


14 posted on 05/20/2014 6:16:01 AM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: xzins

If Hillary had brain surgery, it would be considered exploratory surgery.


15 posted on 05/20/2014 6:16:19 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: xzins
It was total TIMIDITY on display...a complete withdrawal into herself despite being in front of a large crowd of people.

Perhaps that is what happened. What I saw was a set-up act to gain sympathy for Da Hill.

(Still wonder if she really suffered an injury and if it did actually occur, was it self-induced; could have been an OD.)
16 posted on 05/20/2014 6:17:56 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: areukiddingme1

She turned her back to an attacker.

That single fact says so much.


17 posted on 05/20/2014 6:18:21 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: luvbach1
This will be treated just like Jeremiah Wright and all the other Obama crap that was/is out there. The corrupt MSM huffed and puffed and declared everything a non-issue. You can already see the praetorian guard MSM working to protect Hillary. Well, good luck keeping the lid on all that this time.

Let's see Hillary, alone, in a tough interview.

Let's see Hillary in a real debate to see how quick on her feet she is and how lucid she really is.

My guess is that Hillary may whither and succumb once the intensity and the pressure of any real campaign begins.

18 posted on 05/20/2014 6:19:05 AM PDT by Obadiah (Always remember that you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: xzins

“or a hemorrhage between her brain and skull.”

Wow, there should be enough space in there to fill at least two blood banks for a year.


19 posted on 05/20/2014 6:20:41 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: xzins

Whatever happened, we know her first instinct will be to lie and spin.


20 posted on 05/20/2014 6:21:17 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: GreenHornet

Exploratory or perhaps Micro Surgery.


21 posted on 05/20/2014 6:21:21 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: xzins

It’s racist!


22 posted on 05/20/2014 6:23:10 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: xzins
I was also concerned about a month ago when someone threw a shoe at her, and she scrunched up, turned totally meek and tiptoed around the lectern she was behind. It was total TIMIDITY on display...a complete withdrawal into herself despite being in front of a large crowd of people.

And the nonsense chirpy old biddy ranting!

"Was that a bat?! Was that a bat?! Is that part of Cirque de Soleil"

Which the media later described as witty, off-the-cuff quips.

23 posted on 05/20/2014 6:24:40 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Resettozero
What I saw was a set-up act to gain sympathy for Da Hill.

If so, then she should fire the script writers who had her scrunch down, walk around the lectern in the direction of the attack, turn her back to the attacker, and act with a "please don't hurt me" demeanor.

She was the epitome of a whipped dog, an abused female, in full cringe mode.

Fire that set-up team

24 posted on 05/20/2014 6:25:10 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
I'm no fan of Rove, but I think in this case he was genius. He dropped the health bomb now and is taking the heat for it....but it doesn't matter because it isn't campaign season and he isn't affiliated (at least openly) with any Republican presidential campaign.

So why is it a genius move? Because it has succeeded in planting the seed in the public's mind. Now for the next two years, anytime Hillary looks tired in public or messes up a line in a speech (which is bound to happen with ANY candidate), the seed will take root in peoples mind and they will say, "Was she only tired? Was it just a verbal mistake? Or maybe there is something to that brain injury thing..."

25 posted on 05/20/2014 6:26:48 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Mechanicos
Democrats have nobody else to run.

Hollywood and New York are full of actors willing to play the part. Let's see...Matt Damon, George Clooney, Ben Affleck, who else?

What about Donald Sutherland?
26 posted on 05/20/2014 6:27:39 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
What about Donald Sutherland?

He's Canadian.

27 posted on 05/20/2014 6:28:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Resettozero

IIRC, he is a Canadian. But of course that had nothing to do with little barry bastard boy’s eligibility, being born in Canada, so why should it hinder any other domestic enemy?


28 posted on 05/20/2014 6:29:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: HangnJudge

i just got off of blood thinners because they caused internal bleeding.


29 posted on 05/20/2014 6:30:38 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: dfwgator

President Snow is a Canadian?


30 posted on 05/20/2014 6:31:17 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: apillar

As a political move, I agree that it was very smart.

That aside, the real issue is fact. Bill Clinton, master communicator, said of the event: “TERRIBLE concussion...6 MONTHS recovery...”

Anyone have an audio clip of his saying that?


31 posted on 05/20/2014 6:31:49 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

“She turned her back to an attacker.

That single fact says so much.”

I don’t know,,, It wasn’t like someone was trying to punch or shoot her. I’d rather get hit in the back with a thrown shoe, than in the face or crotch! However, as I recall, she had a very delayed reaction, and the shoe was well past her by the time she turned.


32 posted on 05/20/2014 6:32:06 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Resettozero

So is Jack Bauer.


33 posted on 05/20/2014 6:33:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Like father, like son.


34 posted on 05/20/2014 6:34:15 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: xzins

The further revelations of the state of health enjoyed by Herself, Madame Benghazi, the Cold & Joyless, are no cause for concern on my part. What is cause for concern is that the Democrats, against all good judgment and advice, will probably attempt to go ahead and draft her for the nomination, and come out foursquare, all guns blazing, for her elevation to the Presidency.

Which should sit really well when Herself collapses onstage during a Presidential Debate in September 2016, while giving a non-answer to a softball question from the hand-picked leftist moderator.

I give the Democrats a nickel’s worth of free advice - find your back-up substitute for the now fading “front-runner”. You had no trouble at all finding a substitute in 2008.


35 posted on 05/20/2014 6:34:43 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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Which should sit really well when Herself collapses onstage during a Presidential Debate in September 2016,..

You're not thinking clearly and just gave them more than an alloysteel nickel's worth of advice!

Watch for something like this to happen if she runs. She would get every Alzheimers-family's sympathy votes.
36 posted on 05/20/2014 6:38:49 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Disagree completely.

Bush did it right. He watched the direction of the thrower and was able to react to the next throw.

Turning your back to an attacker is both a sign of defeat and surrender to fate.

I want a president who is a fighter.


37 posted on 05/20/2014 6:41:20 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

She did the same thing in Benghazi.

Pray America wakes up


38 posted on 05/20/2014 6:42:09 AM PDT by bray (Palin 2016)
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To: xzins

And what is never asked is whether she was drinking when she “fell”. She looks pretty wound up in a number of pictures over the years.


39 posted on 05/20/2014 6:42:32 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Resettozero

I didn’t say the sympathy vote for Herself would not be overwhelming. But how well would Terry Schiavo have done?

We do not need a vegetable to take root in the Oval Office.


40 posted on 05/20/2014 6:43:31 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: DaxtonBrown

Good question. I worked as an assistant chaplain at a Veteran’s Hospital in Lex, Ky, way back in the early 80’s. One of my wards was alcohol/drug rehab.

I remember one guy in particular who came in all beat to hell about the head and shoulders. He couldn’t (or wouldn’t) remember what happened to him. Kept saying something about a fence post. It wasn’t a driving accident.


41 posted on 05/20/2014 6:45:59 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: dfwgator; MHGinTN; Resettozero

Hey, Canadians are Americans too.


42 posted on 05/20/2014 6:46:39 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Mechanicos

Wouldn’t it be fun to watch Sarah send Hillary crying from the stage. Mean ole Sarah. LOL


43 posted on 05/20/2014 6:47:21 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: bray
She did the same thing in Benghazi.

Wow, Bray...Exactly!

Full timid, hesitant, flight not fight mode!

44 posted on 05/20/2014 6:47:39 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: alloysteel
But how well would Terry Schiavo have done?

As well as Da Hill would, if TS had been doctored instead of medicated and if her husband loved her as much as he did himself. TS may have recovered fully. We'll never know.
45 posted on 05/20/2014 6:48:04 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: xzins

46 posted on 05/20/2014 6:49:07 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: xzins

Well,,, she is an old woman, and not a pugilist!


47 posted on 05/20/2014 6:49:35 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: cotton1706

Hillary Clinton is a fall down drunk. She is drunk all the time. Google “is Hillary Clinton too drunk to be president”.


48 posted on 05/20/2014 6:50:00 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Hey, Canadians are Americans too.


49 posted on 05/20/2014 6:50:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: alloysteel
It's Jello
50 posted on 05/20/2014 6:50:50 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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