Skip to comments.Female Marine Pullup Failure Doesn't Mean Women Aren't Strong
Posted on 05/22/2014 5:30:04 PM PDT by QT3.14
The Associated Press reports:
More than half of female Marines in boot camp can't do three pullups, the minimum standard that was supposed to take effect with the new year, prompting the Marine Corps to delay the requirement, part of the process of equalizing physical standards to integrate women into combat jobs.
The delay rekindled sharp debate in the military on the question of whether women have the physical strength for some military jobs, as service branches move toward opening thousands of combat roles to them in 2016.
(Excerpt) Read more at thefederalist.com ...
What the hell does that have to do with the ability to carry a wounded comrade, or carry a heavy load in rugged terrain?
It seems DOD started the dumbing-down with Jessica Lynch when the U.S. Army awarded her the Bronze Star for distinguishing herself by heroic or meritorious achievement or service consisting of this:
God help us, fanaticism rules the day.
Nope, just not as strong as men.
It just means she’ll die if her life depends on pulling herself up.
okay when we need people’to give bith in a combat zone we’ve got it covered. i think injured soldiers would rather have people around that have upper body strength to lug them out of harm’s way than ones with impressive uterine abilities.
Or someone else will die if she can’t pull them up.
This has to be satire.
I guess according to the new standards being a female fk-up and exposing your fellow troops to danger so they can bail your ass out warrants a Bronze Star. The ladies must be so proud of themselves.....
“OMG” she survived... that gets a medal...
Somehow I cannot bring myself to imagine how John McCain or Mitt Romney could have pulled the services so low. Lukewarm/compromising or not.
If you want social programs, sponsor the Peace Corps. But don’t look to the Army, Air Force, Navy or Marines.
they also ignore how totally vulnerable a woman is giving birth. and that most in developed countries do it with a whole support team around them. oh well back to ignoring reality.
Mollie, you’re a brainwashed idiot.
I think women have combat nursing licked.
I sure as hell hope one of these fine male devil dogs don’t find themselves in need of a firemans carry due to wounds in combat and the only option is a female Marine. God help this country if the Corps hasn’t flushed this craps out of its system. I guess my Corps is a kinder gentler one
When women die in greater percentages and their comrades die in greater percentages will anyone hold these insane LIB asshats responsible? No. Never mind. LIBs are mentally ill and need to be segregated from civil society.
Put a company of women against a company of men with the same ordnance, guess who wins?
and others that depend on her making it over that wall, could very well die as well.
You have to read the entire article. The writer isn't quite as vapid as the excerpt would suggest.
When I was in WM’s had to meet exactly the same physical standards.
It means that the womyn who have been allowed into front line combat will be worked up the chain to be commanders because they have time on the front lines.
Never mind the fact that we will never face another army that has womyn in the front lines.
Never mind that we will have to subject womyn to the VA.
personally i don’t believe corp leadership is for this. i believe it’s being forced on them by president mom jeans.
Yep. Soldiers never need to climb over walls, quickly climb out of the top hatch of an APC, or any other activity that involves being able to lift your own weight. /S
might be the only way the va actually gets better. of course it may only improve for females, given how govt half-asses everything.
Even Lynch considered herself to be a show puppet they used for PR purposes.
If this had of occurred during Obama’s years, I would not think much of it. But that President Bush allowed this on his watch is disturbing to me.
Lying for PR purposes is bad, bad, bad....! Nothing new though. Ira Hayes...one of the Marines that raised the flag on Iwo Jima is an example from WWII.
Humans are sexually dimorphic. Men have significantly more upper body strength. This is important in many endeavors, and breaking things and killing people as part of an organized group is right up there at the top of the list where this is so.
Liberals would have us ignore biology and sacrifice our military prowess, and more importantly our troops on the ground, to the gods of Political Correctness.
The standard obstacle course required a lot of upper body strength. How about hoisting a 90 pound pack up on your back in a hurry. How about carrying your 230 lb buddy in a fireman carry in an outright run.
This PC garbage will get a lot of good men and women dead.
When are they required to sign up for Selective Service? Uh, huh. Thought so.
She should have never been in that position in the first place.
Just because I can’t throw a football accurately doesn’t mean I’m not competitive.. ( huh? ) /s
There was a time in the Marine corps when the female standards and the male standards were the same?
When was that?
It is a known fact that menses synchronizes when women are grouped together. Another thing to take into account.
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I’d certainly like to believe you and I hope you are right. I am suspicious thought because just like under Clinton many brass resigned their commission. Those that remained either looked past it or believed in him. I suspect the latter with this bafoon of a pRESIDENT
Just give them a 100 LB box of tools for aircraft maintenance to lug around and tell them to shut up and carry it themselves...
that’s what happened when I was in the USAF years ago...
they opened up the aircraft mechanics jobs to women and the next thing you know its the guys complaining..
the women were moaning that the guys wouldn’t be nice gentlemen and carry the females heavy gear...as well as their own...
and the grease was just ruining their manicures :)
I boil when I hear PSA's on the radio reminding men to register and failure to do so will result in no federal student loans or employment. There may be more.
Where are the gals DEMANDING equality!!!
You are not appropriate for high office or a policy making position in the DOD.
When I was 48 years old I was at P.I. one weekend. I went to the obstacle course rope and climbed it to the top arms only, no legs. So if some 19 year woman can't do a few pull ups, we're supposed let other's lives depend on her in combat?
"I'm sorry Mrs. Smith, your son died because the only other infantryman there was a woman who was a champ at giving birth but she couldn't drag or carry him to safety because she didn't have the requisite upper body strength for her job.....which was NOT giving birth."
honestly they have little choice to implement if, if ordered to do so. many have resigned, but who wants to do that, and it won’t change libtards doing tis.
Also, the "women give birth" thing. I'm not sure how much "strength" that really shows. Honestly, labor begins and it does not stop until you are done. And, man, I really recommend an epidural for it. (Yes, I admit that pain and I are not friends, my first child took 22 hours of labor, and I needed drugs.)
Before reacting to the excerpt, y’all might want to read the whole article.
Her position actually makes a lot of sense.
Do you agree with her closing statement? (I’d post it, but this is the AP)
I’m a bit over-tired, but still..
She wasn’t the hero the Army claimed, but she certainly wasn’t the “f%ck up” you say she was. She was seriously injured in the HMMWV crash and was never in any position to affect the outcome of the firefight.
I see 5’2”, 120 lb women beat up 6’2”, 220 lb guys in the movies all the time . . . so they must be able to do it in real life.
5’2” and 120 pounds is pretty chunky for the movies.