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Rampage in college town began with stabbings [heavily armed: used guns, knives, car]
KEYT ^ | May 24, 2014 | Ralph Ellis and Sara Sidner

Posted on 05/25/2014 12:28:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

"The rampage left six dead and 13 hurt, with eight suffering gunshot wounds, four hit by the suspect's vehicle and one suffering a minor injury "of unknown origin," Brown said.......

.........First, three men were "repeatedly stabbed" and killed inside Rodger's residence. They weren't identified.

Next, members of the Alpha Phi sorority in Isla Vista reported hearing loud knocking on the front door for several minutes. Nobody answered. Several minutes later, witnesses saw three women in front of the sorority house shot by a man from across the street. Two were killed, one wounded. All were UC Santa Barbara students.

Rodger drove his black BMW several blocks, went into a delicatessen and shot Christoper Martinez to death, officials said. Martinez was a UC Santa Barbara student.......

.....Richard Martinez, father of Christopher Martinez, said to reporters. "Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA. They talk about gun rights, what about Chris' right to live? When will this insanity stop?"....

....One victim, Nick Pasichuke, told CNN he was struck by the gunman's car.

"There are six other people currently hospitalized with me right now. ... There was a guy driving a BMW. I was on a long board and he aimed his car at our group of friends and gunned it into us. I have two broken legs and need surgery. The police said I flew roughly 50 feet into a busy intersection. This is all so crazy."

Ian Papa said he was inches away on the street when the gunman's car sped up and struck two bicyclists......

(Excerpt) Read more at keyt.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; car; elliotrodger; gun; killings; knife; napolitano; santabarbara
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Knife - (3) stabbed to death.

Gun - (12) 4 shot to death (inc killer shooting himself), 8 wounded.

Car - (4) injured victims run down by killer with his car

Unknown - (1) wounded (unspecified/unknown origin)

1 posted on 05/25/2014 12:28:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Knife, gun, car. The guy’s a triple-threat killer.


2 posted on 05/25/2014 12:31:41 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA. They talk about gun rights, what about Chris' right to live? When will this insanity stop?"....

Blaming this on the NRA is like blaming AAA for vehicle deaths.

3 posted on 05/25/2014 12:37:32 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: AlaskaErik
Blaming this on the NRA is like blaming AAA for vehicle deaths.

Don't leave out blaming Swiss Army Knives for he stabbing too.

Up next: Craftsman Hammers....

4 posted on 05/25/2014 12:45:39 AM PDT by llevrok (Say it loud ! - I'm straight and proud !!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He only killed two females, that was a break, since earlier it sounded like he was going to concentrate on them.


5 posted on 05/25/2014 12:46:13 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: AlaskaErik

I don’t fault the father for blaming anything after losing his son, but you know the networks will be fanning these particular flames of anger.


6 posted on 05/25/2014 12:56:54 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

That father’s blame sounded like a thought out political statement, by someone not wanting to waste the media opportunity.

He is probably aware that the right play on this could turn into a generous payoff for him, in politics or activism.


7 posted on 05/25/2014 1:07:15 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: llevrok

And don’t forget BMW worked for HITLER!


8 posted on 05/25/2014 1:19:07 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA. They talk about gun rights, what about Chris’ right to live?”

Gun rights are directly related to peoples’ right to live. Why not blame the psycho kid and his ireesponsible parents? The guy used weapons other than guns, and obviously was bent on killing whether he had guns or not. Why do all these dems insist on using their children as political tools? Talk about besmirching their memories.


9 posted on 05/25/2014 1:30:27 AM PDT by Politicalkiddo (The more helpless the victim, the more hideous the assault.)
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To: ansel12

I, too, find it bizarre to use *this* as an opportunity for a political statement.


10 posted on 05/25/2014 1:31:18 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Kozak

You owe me a new computer screen for that one.


11 posted on 05/25/2014 1:34:07 AM PDT by I Am Not A Mod
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good detail.

Important the Mainstream Ministry of Information is pushed to convey these inconvenient facts.

Prayers and condolences to the families of the victims.


12 posted on 05/25/2014 1:45:00 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ansel12

I’m not sure if I’m quite THAT cynical, but time will tell if you were right. I they end up touring the country like certain other Special Guest Grievers such as Gabby Gifford and her ex-astronaut husband, or Trayvon’s frowning, money grabbing, race baiting parents, we will know they may be opportunists.


13 posted on 05/25/2014 1:46:25 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: Politicalkiddo; All
Others deserved to die because they had it better than him [Soon, the Left will be clamoring for sexual justice].

FULL TRANSCRIPT OF 'ELLIOT RODGER'S RETRIBUTION' YOUTUBE VIDEO

Hi, Elliot Rodger here. Well, this is my last video. It all has to come to this. Tomorrow is the day of retribution, the day I will have my revenge against humanity, against all of you.

For the last eight years of my life, since I hit puberty, I've been forced to endure an existence of loneliness, rejection and unfulfilled desires, all because girls have never been attracted to me. Girls gave their affection and sex and love to other men, never to me.

I'm 22 years old and still a virgin, never even kissed a girl. And through college, 2 1/2 years, more than that actually, I'm still a virgin. It has been very torturous.

College is the time when everyone experiences those things such as sex and fun and pleasure. In those years I've had to rot in loneliness, it's not fair.

You forced me to suffer all my life, now I will make you all suffer. I waited a long time for this. - Elliot Rodger.

You girls have never been attracted to me. I don't know why you girls aren't attracted to me but I will punish you all for it. It's an injustice, a crime because I don't know what you don't see in me, I'm the perfect guy and yet you throw yourselves at all these obnoxious men instead of me, the supreme gentleman. I will punish all of you for it.

On the day of retribution, I am going to enter the hottest sorority house at UCSB and I will slaughter every single spoiled, stuck-up, blond slut I see inside there. All those girls I've desired so much. They have all rejected me and looked down on me as an inferior man if I ever made a sexual advance toward them, while they throw themselves at these obnoxious brutes.

I take great pleasure in slaughtering all of you., You will finally see that I am, in truth, the superior one, the true alpha male. [laughs] Yes, after I have annihilated every single girl in the sorority house, I'll take to the streets of Isla Vista and slay every single person I see there. All those popular kids who live such lives of hedonistic pleasure while I've had to rot in loneliness all these years. They all look down upon me every time I tried to join them, they've all treated me like a mouse.

Well, now I will be a god compared to you, you will all be animals, you are animals and I will slaughter you like animals. I'll be a god exacting my retribution on all those who deserve it and you do deserve it just for the crime of living a better life than me.

The popular kids, you never accepted me and now you will all pay for it. Girls, all I ever wanted was to love you, be loved by you. I wanted a girlfriend. I wanted sex, love, affection, adoration.

You think I'm unworthy of you. That's I crime I can never get over. If I can't have you girls, I will destroy you. [laughs] You denied me a happy life and in turn I will deny all of you life, it's only fair. I hate all of you.

Humanity is a disgusting, wretched, depraved species. If I had it in my power I would stop at nothing to reduce every single one of you to mountains of skulls and rivers of blood and rightfully so. You deserve to be annihilated and I will give that to you. You never showed me any mercy so I will show you none.

You forced me to suffer all my life, now I will make you all suffer. I waited a long time for this. I'll give you exactly what you deserve, all of you. All you girls who rejected me, looked down upon me, you know, treated me like scum while you gave yourselves to other men. And all of you men for living a better life than me, all of you sexually active men. I hate you. I hate all of you. I can't wait to give you exactly what you deserve, annihilation. [end]

14 posted on 05/25/2014 1:48:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Gene Eric

More detail:

“.....Rodger was living with roommates at the Independent Living Institute in Santa Barbara, a facility that offers ‘living skills instruction to help adults with disabilities to live more independently in their communities,’ according to the website.......

“He was born in August 1991 in Lambeth, South London, the scion of a family steeped in photography and the cinema.

His Malaysian-born mother Li Chin, now 53, and film director father Peter, 49, moved to America’s West Coast when Elliot was five and his younger sister Georgia only a baby.

Elliot’s grandfather, British photographer George Rodger, was one of the founders of the renowned Magnum photo agency, and covered the D-Day landings in 1944.

He was also the first photographer to enter the concentration camps at Bergen-Belsen, an experience which left a lasting impression on him, according to his widow Lois ‘Jinx’ Rodger, herself a journalist and picture editor.

Speaking from her home in Kent, Elliot’s grandmother, 89, explained that he had suffered mental health issues for some time.

She said: ‘He was a very disturbed boy. He lived in California but of course I’d known him. This is just one of those very tragic things. I don’t want to talk about it any more. This is a rather difficult time.’........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638427/He-disturbed-boy-British-grandmother-Santa-Barbara-mass-killer-boy-grew-Hollywood-royalty-posted-chilling-blogs-vowing-revenge-against-women-rejected-him.html


16 posted on 05/25/2014 2:01:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ansel12

Worked out pretty well for Gabby Giffords’ husband, didn’t it?


17 posted on 05/25/2014 2:06:52 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ansel12

I’m willing to bet that he was anti gun before this happened, but it is a bit mean to assume that he is somehow overjoyed with this ‘opportunity’ the guy lost his son.


18 posted on 05/25/2014 2:08:03 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: ansel12

Worked out pretty well for Gabby Giffords’ husband, didn’t it?


19 posted on 05/25/2014 2:09:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks.

I’m not seeing how the NRA and crazy politicians fit into Elliot’s pathological timeline.


20 posted on 05/25/2014 2:10:06 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ansel12

I’m willing to bet that he was anti gun before this happened, but it is a bit mean to assume that he is somehow overjoyed with this ‘opportunity’ the guy lost his son.


21 posted on 05/25/2014 2:16:18 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: lee martell
"I’m not sure if I’m quite THAT cynical, but time will tell if you were right. I they end up touring the country like certain other Special Guest Grievers such as Gabby Gifford and her ex-astronaut husband, or Trayvon’s frowning, money grabbing, race baiting parents, we will know they may be opportunists."

The lives of children are disposable tools for Muslims. Why not the same for their fellow travelers, the Leftist zealots in the US? All for the cause. It's for the children and all that...

22 posted on 05/25/2014 2:33:05 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

If someone posts something about him being “ overjoyed with this ‘opportunity “ then you should post to them, don’t claim that I said that.


23 posted on 05/25/2014 2:39:29 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

In other words, he was known to be so mentally ill that he had to live in a special facility, but nobody, including his family, was alarmed enough by his strange, violent ravings - which he publicly posted in social media - to intervene.

He seems to have used a variety of things to kill people, and I think his family’s attempt to leap on the gun control bandwagon is really an attempt to divert attention from their massive failure to pay attention to somebody who was clearly very sick. Not to mention the mental health professionals who must have been monitoring him during his stay in the sheltered living facility...where were they during all this?


24 posted on 05/25/2014 2:52:02 AM PDT by livius
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To: llevrok

Here is the issue MENTAL HEALTH!!!!! and the failure of a system that allows these mentally ill to self medicate themselves in a normal societal environment. The school system is great at this, they put these disturbed kids under meds into normal environments for THEIR own rehabilitation at the risk of putting your child in danger.


25 posted on 05/25/2014 2:54:56 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
And through college, 2 1/2 years, more than that actually, I'm still a virgin.

Ever tell anyone your father was a Hollywood director, bright boy? When I was in college, UCSB was renowned as one of the premier party schools on the West Coast. And the son of a successful Hollywood director couldn't get laid there?
26 posted on 05/25/2014 2:57:23 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Not to make light of any of this but when I hear his rants it made me think of this;

http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/139103/bang-the-drum-slowly-dumbass.jhtml

Watch whole episode or start about 3:17. To me it sounds so similar it’s creepy.


27 posted on 05/25/2014 3:10:33 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Re your #14, his words...sounds like he was demon-possessed; very similar to words spoken by demon-possessed people against humanity.


28 posted on 05/25/2014 3:12:27 AM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The guy uses his sons death as an opertunity to bash the NRA and the 2nd am? Wow, I’m speachless.


29 posted on 05/25/2014 3:20:34 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I can’t say that I disagree with him about all the beautiful women hooking up with ugly brutes. Except all of my ex-wives, of course.


30 posted on 05/25/2014 3:32:21 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Guy had Aspergers, which, when combined with being an a-hole isn’t a winning combination with women as it makes you look a creep because if you are an a-hole you need to have enough social skills to hide the fact you are an a-hole long enough to get them into bed. I assume.


31 posted on 05/25/2014 3:40:53 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I watched the video made by the sicko. Bizarre words aside, he was actually a good-looking, well-spoken man.

He was also calm and cool under pressure. He was detained by police shortly before launching the massacre but talked his way out of it.

Given those skills, why wasn’t he able to talk one of those Santa Barbara airheads into bed? A real puzzle.


32 posted on 05/25/2014 4:09:51 AM PDT by heye2monn (MO)
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To: AlaskaErik

Have any of these anti-gun people ever said exactly how “gun control” will stop people from getting guns and killing people? If gun laws were the answer, wouldn’t Chicago and DC be the safest cities in America?

No one talks about “crazy people control”.


33 posted on 05/25/2014 4:47:30 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Interesting that the father of one of the deceased used this as an immediate opportunity to spew his anti-gun beliefs to the media.


34 posted on 05/25/2014 4:50:23 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is it just a coincidence that Janet Napolitano is president of the Univ. of CA? Ever since Obama took office, I see conspiracies around every corner.


35 posted on 05/25/2014 4:50:53 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I think he will lose his virginity in prison.
36 posted on 05/25/2014 4:55:58 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Was he a muslim? This all just seems to “neat”. I don’t think there is a guy in the world who can’t find some girl. And in college there are all sorts of people to make friends with. And his family was well-off from what I have heard. Something just isn’t right...


37 posted on 05/25/2014 4:56:03 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Gene Eric

If he watch the raving of the psycho-killer on YouTube, he would observe no mention of politians or the NRA.


38 posted on 05/25/2014 4:58:13 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: V_TWIN; All

Setting aside his “women don’t like me” grievances, why would he kill his 3 roommates in the assisted living home?


39 posted on 05/25/2014 5:05:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ansel12

That father’s blame sounded like a thought out political statement, by someone not wanting to waste the media opportunity.

Kalifornia Brain Washing


40 posted on 05/25/2014 5:08:24 AM PDT by Boomer One
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Great. Richard Martinez is probably going to turn into another Tom Mauser.


41 posted on 05/25/2014 5:16:21 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Disharmonious & Unmutual)
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Father of Christopher Martinez (killed by City College student Elliot Rodger) 1:31 YouTube Video of Richard Martinez statement to media (brother standing beside him)

He did himself no favors by zeroing in on guns in his emotional statement.

42 posted on 05/25/2014 5:25:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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.....First, three men were "repeatedly stabbed" and killed inside Rodger's residence. They weren't identified.

It's odd how still almost nothing is reported about these three murders, only a line or two in every story I've read.

43 posted on 05/25/2014 5:27:10 AM PDT by Will88
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To: ansel12

“Sara Brady syndrome”

My (__________________) got shot/killed by a nut with a gun. I’m somebody now. Everything I say is important.


44 posted on 05/25/2014 5:34:15 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: ansel12

I strongly disagree with you — and I am a member of the NRA. I thought this poor man was obviously and understandably distraught and I do not fault him for anything he says within just days of losing his son.


45 posted on 05/25/2014 5:36:21 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: AlaskaErik

That’s it! I’ve had enough! Ban cars!!


46 posted on 05/25/2014 5:37:20 AM PDT by Netz
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To: ilovesarah2012

“”Was he a muslim?””


Don’t know if he was. But it is interesting that his biological mother is from a Muslim country Malaysia. And his current step mother is also from a Muslim country Morocco.


47 posted on 05/25/2014 5:42:51 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
I dunno but in days of old, a young man who needed to expel some libido would even go to a hooker in order to take care of the virginity thing. I am not advocating this course of action as a remedy but it might have worked out better for him to go that route. Heck, he was so loony he should have tried other avenues.
48 posted on 05/25/2014 5:44:06 AM PDT by Netz
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
I dunno but in days of old, a young man who needed to expel some libido would even go to a hooker in order to take care of the virginity thing. I am not advocating this course of action as a remedy but it might have worked out better for him to go that route. Heck, he was so loony he should have tried other avenues.
49 posted on 05/25/2014 5:44:06 AM PDT by Netz
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To: ilovesarah2012

The bizarre thing is that he apparently was able to buy these guns legally, even though he was already, at the time, living in some sort of sheltered residence for the mentally ill. That’s where he killed the first three people (with a knife).

So what does it take to be diagnosed as somebody who should not be allowed to buy a gun?

I also read that his parents and his therapists evidently were alarmed, and they called the police, who interviewed him and decided that he was ok. Then not much later he started killing all these people.

What in the world does it take to get the mentally ill out of circulation, or even appropriately diagnosed in the first place?

Every single one of these mass killings has been committed by someone who was mentally ill, regardless of the means they used to kill.


50 posted on 05/25/2014 5:44:33 AM PDT by livius
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