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Majority says child born outside U.S. to one American-citizen parent isn’t a “natural born” citizen
HOTAIR ^ | 5-27-2014

Posted on 05/27/2014 5:32:13 PM PDT by Sam Troy

The easiest prediction of the 2016 primaries is that Republicans will have a profound change of heart on who is and isn’t “natural born” once more of them become better acquainted with the circumstances of Ted Cruz’s birth.

For now, though: Disqualified.

Fifty-two percent overall and 53 percent of Republicans think you’re not “natural born” if you were born abroad to an American-citizen mother — and yet, when asked point-blank whether Cruz is eligible to be president, 55 percent of Republicans say yes versus just nine percent who say no. When asked the same question of Obama, the split is 31/55 even though the Birther scenario in which O was secretly born in Kenya would put him in precisely the same situation as Cruz (born abroad, citizen mother, non-citizen father). Does that mean the GOP electorate’s destined to turn on Cruz once more of them discover where he was born, fearing that his immigrant parentage and Canadian birth have left his loyalty to the U.S. hopelessly compromised? Er, no. A reversal on this subject is far more likely. After all, you can define “natural born” various ways — by place of birth, parents’ citizenship, or some combo thereof. For example:

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: citizenship; congress; democrats; immigration; naturalborncitizen; obama; republicans; tedcruz
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To: dsc

Or any military personnel or diplomat or any American who’s out of country I think.


21 posted on 05/27/2014 6:39:40 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: EvilCapitalist

Not for me though.


22 posted on 05/27/2014 6:41:42 PM PDT by Sam Troy
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To: Timber Rattler

I don’t think so. Sheriff Arpaio is about to close out his secind criminal investigation on Obama and I don’t think the American public will be ready for what he has to release.


23 posted on 05/27/2014 6:43:38 PM PDT by Sam Troy
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To: Sam Troy

What difference does it make?

The sheep will vote for the first _resident with lady parts, aka the beast. Mark my words.


24 posted on 05/27/2014 6:45:17 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: SkyDancer

“Or any military personnel or diplomat or any American who’s out of country I think.”

Now, yes. I was just thinking that a law established long ago might have some weight.


25 posted on 05/27/2014 6:45:18 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Sam Troy

This is settled law. Some Important People here at FR have decreed him eligible. Case closed.


26 posted on 05/27/2014 6:47:45 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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To: Sam Troy

If Barry Soetoro is a “natural born citizen”, EVERYBODY on the planet is a “natural born citizen.”


27 posted on 05/27/2014 6:52:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Sam Troy

See your FRmail.


28 posted on 05/27/2014 6:52:54 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: SkyDancer
McCain wasn't born in a military hospital. He was born in the Republic of Panama - a foreign country. Have you ever heard of foreign-born military brats being told they were ineligible for the presidency? I have, and so have most of my family and extended family.
Congress made McCain 'eligible' by passing a motion. They conspicuously avoided considering zer0's eligibility, though.
29 posted on 05/27/2014 6:53:35 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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To: dsc

With pleasure!


30 posted on 05/27/2014 7:03:20 PM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: SkyDancer
So a child born to a military family outside the US but in a US military hospital is not a natural born citizen? Hey, McCain .....!

Back when I was a Marine Corps brat, being taught in an elementary school on a Marine Corps airbase, that is precisely what they taught us.

I believe the 'rats used the power of the press and the magic of open primaries to select McCain, the weakest available candidate, for that exact reason; it prevented the 'pubs from challenging obama's bona fides...

31 posted on 05/27/2014 7:10:24 PM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: dsc
I don’t know the current status, but there used to be a law conferring citizenship on children born to officers serving abroad.

Exactly.

Children born abroad of American parents are, by law, citizens.

A Natural Born Citizen needs no law to declare them a citizen.

32 posted on 05/27/2014 7:13:03 PM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: bicyclerepair
The sheep will vote for the first _resident with lady parts, aka the beast. Mark my words.

Words marked.


33 posted on 05/27/2014 7:19:51 PM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: ComputerGuy

“This is settled law”

What statute or court case are they basing this as settled law?


34 posted on 05/27/2014 7:53:35 PM PDT by Sam Troy
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To: ComputerGuy

John Mc Cain was born at the Family Hospital at Coco Solo Naval Air Station, Panama Canal Zone. His birth certificate was signed by Captain W.L. Irvine who was Director of the base medical facility.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/05/john_mccains_birthplace.html

McCain’s mother, Roberta is still alive at 102. I think she knows where she gave birth!


35 posted on 05/27/2014 8:02:24 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Sam Troy

The whole “natural born” thing is irrelevant with Obama. He’s an illegal alien and a foreign agent.


36 posted on 05/27/2014 8:03:52 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Sam Troy
What statute or court case are they basing this as settled law?

I don't know. Stick around - you'll see Cruz's eligibility discussed from time to time.
37 posted on 05/27/2014 8:04:01 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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38 posted on 05/27/2014 8:07:17 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Nero Germanicus
Pay close attention to the name and location of the hospital:
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39 posted on 05/27/2014 8:09:17 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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To: ComputerGuy

Its a proven forgery.
From 2009:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2286521/posts?page=22
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=fred_hollander_1


40 posted on 05/27/2014 8:47:52 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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