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Kentucky Guv: Either McConnell Is Clueless Or Misleading On Obamacare
talkingpointsmemo.com ^ | 5/28/14 | Daniel Straus

Posted on 05/29/2014 5:22:14 AM PDT by cotton1706

Add Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear (D) to the list of Democrats attacking Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) for saying Obamacare should be repealed but Kentucky's Obamacare exchange, Kynect, should stay in place.

That statement by McConnell's campaign has sparked criticism by both the Lexington Herald Leader editorial board and Jonathan Hurst, the campaign manager for Democrat Alison Lundergan Grimes, who's running against McConnell.

Here's Beshear's response, passed to TPM on Wednesday in response to questions about McConnell's position:

Eliminating ACA means that folks with pre-existing conditions will struggle to find coverage, young adults won't be able to stay on their parents' coverage, women won't be treated equally by insurers and federal subsidies for Kentuckians will end. Senator McConnell either doesn't understand what the ACA is, or is just trying to mislead Kentucky families for his political benefit at their expense.

Beshear has been widely praised for setting up Kynect, which is often regarded as the model for state-based marketplaces created through Obamacare.

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To: COBOL2Java

Grimey would be one hell of an enabler for him.


81 posted on 05/29/2014 7:26:27 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

“You had your chance to replace McConnell with someone more conservative”

There you go again with an inaccurate statement.

No, KY conservatives have one more chance for payback against
McConnell. And you know what? There will not be enough Bushite
votes to save McConnell.

Good riddance to McConnell.


82 posted on 05/29/2014 7:34:25 AM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Din Maker

Excellent idea!


83 posted on 05/29/2014 7:35:37 AM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

“If you think that adding up final scores and finding the mean is “dissecting,” then you are even more superficial than I thought. I’m referring to looking at the votes considered and excluded, and the weight given to each vote, by each group.”

Yes I know that. But as you said, very few of us have the time to look into all that, and each agency rates on different issues. McConnell voted great on taxes for thirty years. McCain did too, which is why his ACU rating is so high. But how did they vote on abortion, amnesty, or any of the other conservative issues. An average gives a broad perspective and can be used as a tool to compare one senator to another, and to prevent a politician from deceiving the people.


84 posted on 05/29/2014 7:52:32 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: Impy
Grimey would be one hell of an enabler for him.

And McConnell is not? Oh my, you're not playing the "Glad Game", are you?

Well golly gee! My father always used to say, get a Republican majority in the Senate - doesn't matter how - and we'd have steak and ice cream three times every day!"


85 posted on 05/29/2014 7:53:33 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

He and Reid seem to much prefer Grimes which is why they are spending millions to convince retards to vote for her. I for one am agin’ what they want. If you want the same the thing as them.....well whatever floats your boat, fella.


86 posted on 05/29/2014 7:59:30 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

This is what happens when you trash and brag about crushing the
same voters you will need to win.
Foolish and unnecessary strategy by McConnell and his team.


87 posted on 05/29/2014 8:07:29 AM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Impy
He and Reid seem...

Notice the word "seem"...Politics is the art of illusion. Of course Reid would give people the impression that he prefers the "D". If you'd rather vote for the traitor "R" who will stand there and hold the door open for the "D", go ahead. In the long run, you get the exact same result.

88 posted on 05/29/2014 8:10:13 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

Bull. They aren’t raising millions for the *itch as part of an “illusion”. If you think so, you’re delusional.


89 posted on 05/29/2014 8:12:57 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: tennmountainman

IF by “this” you mean you and your compatriots cheering on Alison Grimes , I’d say “this” is what happens when a few disgruntled people on the Internet throw a tempter tanturm. Thankfully I don’t think the voters of Kentucky are as myopic as you think they are, they will vote against Obama and his *itch Grimes and against the rat scum that have ruled the state House for the better part of a century. May the rats wither and die. **ck Barack Obama.


90 posted on 05/29/2014 8:18:13 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: tennmountainman

Any Kentuckian who permits Grimey to represent them in the Senate for 6+ years would be a lot of things, but “conservative” wouldn’t be one of them.


91 posted on 05/29/2014 8:24:22 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Impy

We shall soon see what the coming polls look like in KY.
The last polls showed a tie between McConnell and Grimes.
If McConnell has lost ground in the coming polls, it will be an indication
that trashing the same conservatives he will need was a foolish
and costly strategy.
One that will cost him and the GOPe’s dearly.


92 posted on 05/29/2014 8:27:00 AM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Impy

Ah well. Enjoy your “Glad Game”


93 posted on 05/29/2014 8:28:53 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: tennmountainman
Plus, one could have a 90% conservative rating and vote for Amnesty.

Or, one could have a 90% conservative rating and vote for cloture on the debt ceiling, and then voting against an increase in the debt ceiling. The vote for cloture was the "Big Kahuna".

Bill Clinton taught me to parse everything that comes out of a politician's mouth.

GOPe taught me to analyze every vote made by "Conservative Republicans".

94 posted on 05/29/2014 8:29:16 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

KY conservatives, not Bushites will determine this KY Race.
We will see soon enough through coming polls if trashing the same
base he needs to win was a “winning strategy”

BTW, if you have not noticed, McConnell has begun to move more
leftward in his race.


95 posted on 05/29/2014 8:31:12 AM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Well said. You’re a tad more eloquent than me. I probably come off as a hostile jerk, cause I am one. ;p


96 posted on 05/29/2014 8:31:32 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: cotton1706

McConnell developing Alzheimers? Maybe he should be told to step down from running for health reasons. He seems to forget about his vote when speaking.


97 posted on 05/29/2014 8:31:34 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: tennmountainman

There is an FR thread about at least one Democrat trying to help re-elect Cantor.


98 posted on 05/29/2014 8:32:21 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

That does not surprise me. Cantor is a democrats best friend.
He is a liar. And Rats just love liars.


99 posted on 05/29/2014 8:37:52 AM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: cotton1706

I understand perfectly well the wisdom of aggregating different vote ratings and computing the average; I do that myself with my Almanac of American Politics in hand, where I add the vote ratings for three conservative groups with different perspectives (Club for Growth (economic conservatives), Family Research Council (social conservatives) and ACU (overall conservative)) and then I subtract from 100 the vote ratings for each of three liberal groups with different perspectives (AFSCME (labor), League of Conservation Voters (environmentalist) and ADA (overall liberals)) so that, for example, a 20% score from the liberal LCV becomes an 80% “conservative score,” and then I divide the whole thing by 600 to get a conservative percentage. I think that it is important to look not only at how conservative groups grade votes, but at how liberal groups do so, in order to avoid being fooled by faux conservatives like Justin Amash who boast of high ratings from the Club for Growth and from that Paultard group but who are among the most liberal Republicans according to the liberal ADA.

As for McConnell’s 90+ ACU career rating being due to him “voting great on taxes” 20 years ago, the fact is that his single-year ACU rating for 2012 and 2013 was higher than 90 in each year. I’m sure that you can point to a few votes where he was disappointing, but it is simply not true that he has voted more liberal during the past few years. Admittedly, McConnell is far from perfect, but there is a HUGE difference between him and a Democrat.

Oh, and check this nugget I found in a recent article about Thad Cochran (you know, the Southern Republican longtime Senator who actually deserves to be replaced, and God willing will be defeated in the upcoming primary):

“When Republicans won the House in 2010, they helped bring about an end to the long-cherished practice of congressional earmarking. During the lame-duck session in December 2010, Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) rallied Republicans to kill a proposed omnibus spending bill that was loaded with earmarks, including more than $500 million that Cochran had requested.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/371266/pulling-pork-andrew-stiles

The GOP only had 42 Senators in December 2010, and one of them was pork king Cochran, so it was quite a feat for McConnell to pull that off. He does have his moments.


100 posted on 05/29/2014 8:41:00 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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