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Ignore NRA fantasy world: Good guy with pepper spray stops bad guy with gun
The Kansas City Star ^ | 06-06-2014 | Yael T. Abouhalkah

Posted on 06/06/2014 5:43:55 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016

The gun lovers who preach that arming American citizens to stop even more violence always ignore the fact that Wayne LaPierre was wrong.

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” LaPierre, the National Rifle Association’s executive vice president, infamously said after a gunman in 2012 killed 20 schoolchildren and six adults in Newtown, Conn.

Yet looked what happened Thursday.

According to police, a student building monitor named Jon Meis used pepper spray to subdue a shooter who had already killed one student and wounded a couple others at Seattle Pacific University in Washington.

Police said the actions by Meis probably saved more lives, because the gunman had extra shotgun shells he could have used after reloading.

In the larger scheme of things, Meis’ use of pepper spray to halt the killings are at odds with the actual facts of how often a “good guy” with a gun stops a “bad guy” with a gun.

Basically, it doesn’t happen.

It’s a fantasy of the NRA and its most ardent gun-rights supporters.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; barfalert; gun; guns; nra; pepperspray; seattle; shooting; washington
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1 posted on 06/06/2014 5:43:55 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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The fact is that it still took a weapon to stop a guy with a weapon.

That hasn’t changed.


2 posted on 06/06/2014 5:45:57 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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You just cannot fix either stupid or evil.


3 posted on 06/06/2014 5:46:36 PM PDT by microgood
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Paris Ainsworth was shot 4 times and still returned fire hitting 2 of 3 assailants (one of them twice).

Bet she wishes she had used her pepper spray instead. /s
4 posted on 06/06/2014 5:48:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

If the shooter had a 30 round clip, the guy with the pepper spray would likely be dead before shooter had to reload.

Moronic article.


5 posted on 06/06/2014 5:50:11 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: PaulCruz2016
Okay, Yael, I have an idea. Let's you and me have a duel. You bring your pepper spray and I'll bring my .45.

Fair warning; after I drop you I'm going to take your pepper spray, shove it in your wound and empty it while laughing manically about gun control. ;^O

6 posted on 06/06/2014 5:51:40 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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The anti-gunners are anti-pepper spray, too.

Just not this time.

7 posted on 06/06/2014 5:52:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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idiot. I’m holding a shot gun and he has a choice of pepper spray, Colt .45 or another shotgun...I’m so frickin sure he’d pick the pepper spray. dumba## just doesn’t describe him enough.


8 posted on 06/06/2014 5:53:31 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Why did they bother calling in a bunch of uniformed guys WITH GUNS?


9 posted on 06/06/2014 5:53:43 PM PDT by digger48
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To: PaulCruz2016

Stupid libs.

They’re opposed to people walking around with pepper spray too.


10 posted on 06/06/2014 5:53:49 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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manically = maniacally ... ah, heck, you’ll be bleeding out so who cares about semantics!?


11 posted on 06/06/2014 5:54:44 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: PaulCruz2016
Here’s an insightful Mother Jones article

Mother Jones? Insightful? Har Har. Need I say more on that?

The left and its never ending misdirection on firearms and the 2nd amendment.

It's NOT about hunting, it's not about protecting yourself from criminals. Those rights are innate givens.

The thing the left refuses to acknowledge and debate is the real reason for 2A. Protecting ourselves from TYRANTS.

Guns are effective protection, deterrent and defense RE crime. But that is irrelevant to 2A. 2A is to protect us from the government. The founders made that very clear. The left refuses to discuss that because an open and free discussion would make it painfully obvious that they are defending tyrants with their attack on your gun rights.

12 posted on 06/06/2014 5:56:05 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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Oh come on. Abouhalkah doesn’t really believe that we don’t need good guys with guns. She would never advocate disarming the police based on her purported theory that good guys don’t need guns. No, she just wants to disarm law abiding citizens and leave guns in the hands of criminals and police. As for her motive, I’ll leave that up to you to figure out.


13 posted on 06/06/2014 5:56:21 PM PDT by SSS Two
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Yet if police use the same pepper spray to subdue an assailant folks like Yael cry that excessive force was being used. The warped and idiotic thought processes of the left never cease to amaze me.


14 posted on 06/06/2014 5:56:57 PM PDT by dowcaet
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In a lot of states you have to have a license to carry pepper spray.


15 posted on 06/06/2014 5:59:20 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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Moronic article.

LOL. Any piece that references Mother Jones to support its point is by definition moronic. Regardless of the subject.

16 posted on 06/06/2014 5:59:26 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: dowcaet
Yet if police use the same pepper spray to subdue an assailant folks like Yael cry that excessive force was being used.

I rather doubt that. Abouhalkah didn't pass judgement on Meis' use of pepper spray. She doesn't really care about that. She simply doesn't want law abiding citizens to own guns.

17 posted on 06/06/2014 6:01:00 PM PDT by SSS Two
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The anti-gunners are anti-pepper spray, too.

Yup. Don’t get caught with either a gun or pepper spray in NYC.


18 posted on 06/06/2014 6:01:55 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: P-Marlowe

It was against school rules for the hero to carry pepper spray. Doing what is right trumps the rules.


19 posted on 06/06/2014 6:02:10 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: P-Marlowe

I would suspect that the pepper spray guy was violating the law at the college.


20 posted on 06/06/2014 6:04:23 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (If you lined up the best and brightest of this administration, you'd just have a string of dim bulbs)
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