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Russian leadership backs restoration of Stalingrad name
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Posted on 06/07/2014 2:00:03 PM PDT by Perdogg

Russia's deputy prime minister called on Saturday for the name Stalingrad to be restored to the city that was the site of a key World War II battle against the Nazis.

"I never doubted the need to give back great Stalingrad its name. Not for the sake of Stalin, but for the sake of the Stalingraders," Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin wrote on Twitter.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; military; putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine
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To: null and void

It should go back to Stalingrad —for History in nothing else. Tyrants like Stalin need to be remembered—their evil must be remembered so that it not happen again.


21 posted on 06/07/2014 4:38:01 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

If Hitler rechristianed Munich as Hitlerstadt, it would be unthinkable to change it back to that name in 2014, even when the city under that name became the site of a pivotal turning point in history.

As far as Stalin is concerned, he is in the same league as Hitler. He can be remembered in the history books and in the museums, not in a way that is typically used to honour heroes.


22 posted on 06/07/2014 4:52:36 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Mount Athos; dfwgator

Khrushchev didn’t really denounce Stalin per se, he was attacking the destructive policies that were not helping Russia at the time, especially after the war. But he was as every bit as evil as Stalin was. Think of Stalin as Fidel Castro, and Khrushchev as his more “moderate” brother.


23 posted on 06/07/2014 5:42:03 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Corporate Democrat

Absolutely. And we should definitely take note of that fact. However, outside of that, there’s not too much we can do.

When Obama renames’s our capitol city “Obamagrad” we can protest.


24 posted on 06/07/2014 8:21:25 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Perdogg
"I never doubted the need to give back great Stalingrad its name. Not for the sake of Stalin, but for the sake of the Stalingraders,"

I get it.

25 posted on 06/07/2014 9:57:20 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Mount Athos

Lots of very good reasons to hate Stalin


26 posted on 06/07/2014 10:00:41 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: null and void

I agree with you.


27 posted on 06/08/2014 12:00:01 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Mount Athos

Khrushchev hated Stalin, said one mass murderer to another ...


28 posted on 06/08/2014 5:04:26 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Corporate Democrat

“As far as Stalin is concerned, he is in the same league as Hitler” as they were both mass murderers. However, when it came to their avocation, Stalin made Hitler look like an amateur ...


29 posted on 06/08/2014 5:07:00 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Perdogg; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Perdogg.

Vladimir Putin cracks down on historians and Ukraine invasion critics
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3164964/posts


30 posted on 06/08/2014 6:58:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: null and void
I agree. Only communists and fascists try to bury history.

Unbelievable.

So then according to you if one doesn't want their city named after a communist murdering tyrant, then they are a communist or a fascist who is trying to bury history?

31 posted on 06/08/2014 8:02:27 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: null and void

My apologies, you were actually defending reverting back to the name Tsaritsyn.


32 posted on 06/08/2014 8:05:00 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Mount Athos; dfwgator

~Khrushchev hated Stalin, the first thing he did when he got in power was give a 4 hour speech about how terrible Stalin’s personality cult was, condemning forced resettlements, etc..~

I doubt that he really hated uncle Joe.
Khruschev was a first Soviet liberal, a kind of proto-Obama.
He was simply in need of his own G.W.B. and Stalin was a perfect figure to excercise this model.
Just imagine Obama could have had Stalin, not Bush as a predecessor. He could have burned Constitution and Bill of Rights none would say a word as far as Alaskian Gulag could have been closed as part of a goodwilll policy.


33 posted on 06/08/2014 8:05:15 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: Corporate Democrat

~If Hitler rechristianed Munich as Hitlerstadt, it would be unthinkable to change it back to that name in 2014, even when the city under that name became the site of a pivotal turning point in history.

As far as Stalin is concerned, he is in the same league as Hitler. He can be remembered in the history books and in the museums, not in a way that is typically used to honour heroes.~

Now imagine Hitler has one The War. Hitlerstadt sounds more appealing in this case, isn’t it?


34 posted on 06/08/2014 8:09:48 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: FreeReign

No. That city made its name as Stalingrad during the siege.

If you can find an instance of comparable courage and resolve under the name Tsaritsyn, then I will entertain the possibility of reverting to that name.


35 posted on 06/08/2014 8:24:32 AM PDT by null and void (Fascists never think they're fascists. They just think everybody should obey them.)
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To: FreeReign

A country that doesn’t remember its villains, and doesn’t learn the lessons of how those villains got into power, is doomed to grow new crops of villains.

(although it would satisfy my sense of irony if Stalin got the selfsame airbrush treatment he gave so many of his contemporaries)...


36 posted on 06/08/2014 8:30:03 AM PDT by null and void (Fascists never think they're fascists. They just think everybody should obey them.)
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To: null and void
No. That city made its name as Stalingrad during the siege. If you can find an instance of comparable courage and resolve under the name Tsaritsyn, then I will entertain the possibility of reverting to that name.

Wow. So then you were defending the name Stalingrad.

So then my first response to you stands.

37 posted on 06/08/2014 8:34:05 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: null and void
A country that doesn’t remember its villains, and doesn’t learn the lessons of how those villains got into power, is doomed to grow new crops of villains.

There are better ways to be reminded of a communist murdering tyrant than to revert a cities name back to the tyrants name.

38 posted on 06/08/2014 8:37:34 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Wow. So then you were defending the name Stalingrad.

YES! exactly!

We understand each other perfectly.

Although we do strongly disagree. That's sorta the whole point of free speech and open debate, isn't it?

39 posted on 06/08/2014 8:37:37 AM PDT by null and void (Fascists never think they're fascists. They just think everybody should obey them.)
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To: null and void
Although we do strongly disagree. That's sorta the whole point of free speech and open debate, isn't it?

I wasn't questioning your first amendment rights.

40 posted on 06/08/2014 8:40:24 AM PDT by FreeReign
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