Posted on 06/08/2014 3:52:24 PM PDT by Dallas59
Do Finland want to start World War III? It's something to think about if Finland wants to join NATO, warns Russian President Vladimir Putin's personal envoy Sergei Markov.
Enlarge Do Finland want to start World War III? It's something to think about if Finland wants to join NATO, warns Russian President Vladimir Putin's personal envoy Sergei Markov. It's not Russian hatred against Finland, but if Finland joins NATO, it shows that the country has a Russia-complex, said Markov, who is a political scientist, to the newspaper Hufvudstadsbladet. - If Finland wants to join NATO, they should think first . Will you join and start World War III? Anti-Semitism started World War II. Russofobien can start a third. Finland is one of the most russofobiske countries in Europe, after Sweden and the Baltic countries, says
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See this Putin lovers on FR.
Yeah...cuz everyone over there is still living as if it were 1950.
Have you met Bob from Finland?
“Yeah...cuz everyone over there is still living as if it were 1950.”
No, they’re just living with the reality of how things are now:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/01/us-ukraine-crisis-nordics-idUSBREA301AD20140401
...here is some good reading for all to help explain this...
many may be aware....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
the Russians have been winning against the Finnic peoples for nearly a millenia -- remember that what is now the lands around the city of Moscow were once Finnic territory and that there are many finnic groups in Russia -- udmurts, Karelins eta. -- I would also argue that Moscowites are partly Finnic, partly Mongolic by blood mixed with their Slavic blood
Finland should be afraid, but it should be more afraid NOT to join NATO.
It ought to join an Eastern bloc stretching from Finland to Romania that forms a wall of steel against Russia
Not too sure. A NATO run by 0bama??
true
“a sniper that bagged like 300 or so Soviets.”
See #14
I suggest you do the same thing pal. It isn't 1950 anymore no matter how much you WISH it were.
“I suggest you do the same thing pal. It isn’t 1950 anymore no matter how much you WISH it were.”
I never said it was 1950. The simple fact is that a number of Finns are worried about what the Russians might do - especially after seeing what unfolded in Ukraine just a few weeks ago. It doesn’t mean they think the Russians will invade Finland. It does mean they see NATO membership as a bulwark against Russia.
“For Finland there’s also reason to be concerned. At the tail-end of March, Andrej Illarionov, a former adviser to Vladimir Putin, told a Swedish newspaper that the Russian president had designs on Finland, which had been a part of the Russian Empire for more than 100 years. “Putin has said several times that the Bolsheviks and Communists made big mistakes,” Illarionov said, in a translation from the Independent. “He could well say that the Bolsheviks in 1917 committed treason against Russian national interests by granting Finland’s independence.” One Finnish Web site reported that Helsinki was nervous due to news that Russian troops had been conducting military exercises on the Finnish border, though there are now some credible signs that report could be a Russian disinformation campaign.”
So, unless you have something useful to add to this discussion, I suggest you shut up.
Whining about WW2 era Soviet actions add nothing useful to the discussion princess, nor does the hand-wringing about Russia's 'designs' on Finland as relayed to the world by some Swedish tabloid or Finnish website.
Impressive back reference to 2007.
Not so much. The Poles and Baltics are teaming up — Finland should join them and Romania —> ok, they are weak, even together, but together they are a lot stronger than individually
“Whining about WW2 era Soviet actions add nothing useful to the discussion princess,”
Oh, historical context about the last war between Russians and Finns doesn’t matter in an article about Russia and Finland and NATO? You moron.
“nor does the hand-wringing about Russia’s ‘designs’ on Finland as relayed to the world by some Swedish tabloid or Finnish website.”
Right because what the Swedes and Finns write or publish clearly has nothing to do with what the Swedes and Finns might think based on their own history or anything, right? Moron.
Now you’re just embarrassing yourself, moron. Since you have nothing useful to add to this discussion, as you just demonstrated, I suggest you shut up.
It’s time to put an end to Putin’s bullying and charade.
NATO should aggressively pursue Finland as a full member.
When the Russians are busy moaning diplomatically.
We should send the 82nd Airborne to Ukraine and offer them immediate full membership.
Appeasement leads to war.
It was 505 confirmed kills, see #14.
Lol...if you're really going to provide historical context princess, you might do well to remember which side the United States fought on in WW2. Geographically speaking, American tax-payer subsidized NATO looks more like 1940s Nazi Germany every day. Something conservatives here should be very concerned about.
You also might consider that Russia provides Finland with a large stable export market as well as billions in direct investment, which sustained Finland's recovery over the past decade. As Europe's economy has unraveled the share of trade Finland does with Russia continued to grow, and an economic slow down in Russia would have an big impact on Finnish economy as well.
This expanding economic relationship provides the motivation for EU socialists, their western ideological counterparts, and a few useful idiots on the right to dig up decades old animosities and try to push them as contemporary problems.
Same old tired playbook Biden/Kerry/Obama are running in Ukraine.
Thanks. Here's one of those Saami women:
Renee Zellwegger
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