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Nancy Pelosi urges S.F. archbishop to exit marriage march
SF Gate ^ | Saturday, June 14, 2014 | Carla Marinucci

Posted on 06/15/2014 10:13:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi took the lead this week in a high-profile lobbying effort to pressure San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone not to attend the controversial March for Marriage event, which she characterized as "venom masquerading as virtue."

Pelosi, who is one of the country's most powerful Catholic politicians, made a passionate appeal to the archbishop not to participate in the National Organization for Marriage's June 19 march on the Supreme Court in Washington.

Cordileone, who is one of the featured speakers at the event, was a leader in the campaign for Proposition 8, the 2008 California anti-gay-marriage initiative.

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Last week, San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee and Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom, along with a host of Bay Area religious leaders, sent a joint letter to Cordileone protesting his plans to attend the march.

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Cordileone has nevertheless become a national leader in the religious movement against gay marriage. He heads the Subcommittee for the Promotion and Defense of Marriage for the politically powerful U.S. Conference of Bishops and was instrumental in raising $1.5 million to get Prop. 8, which banned same-sex marriage, on the California ballot in 2008.

The measure has since been ruled unconstitutional.

But Cordileone has remained outspoken in his opposition to gay marriage, saying, "The ultimate attack of the evil one is the attack on marriage."

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Cordileone has publicly defended next week's March for Marriage as "an important means to promote and defend marriage for the good of our culture, to pray for our federal and state governments, and to stand in solidarity with people of good will."

In a letter defending the event, he said, "This is a critical time for marriage in our country, as marriage amendments are being struck down by federal courts and appeals of these decisions are being made."

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To: Mrs. Don-o

If the FDA had banned Botox a few decades ago, Nancy Pelosi would now look like what she really is — a cross between the Wicked Witch of the West and an 80-year-old prune.

People would no longer listen to her evil hate-crime attacks against the Catholic Church and its sacred institutions if her face had not been expertly hidden under a cosmetically doctored Barbie Doll mask to give her some credibility.

Nancy Pelosi is the very definition of a monster. She has the head of a doll, the body of a 74-year-old senior citizen in a $3,000 Armani suit, and the brain of a dementia sufferer who thinks an Archbishop of the Catholic Church would listen to her ravings instead of to God or his own conscience.

BTW, last year Nancy Pelosi, who thinks traditional marriage is a venomous institution, celebrated her 50th wedding anniversary to a heterosexual male, a male without whose wealth her misbegotten political career would not have been possible.


41 posted on 06/15/2014 11:24:48 AM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: SumProVita
The author doesn’t seem to understand that Ms. Pelosi is Catholic in name only.

The Bishops, Cardinals and Pope apparently believe otherwise. None of the above have formally excommunicated Pelosi. And Pelosi has never been denied Holy Communion in the Archdioceses of San Francisco or Washington.

42 posted on 06/15/2014 11:32:57 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Look in a MIRROR Ms. Pelosi when talking about venom.


43 posted on 06/15/2014 11:34:47 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ebb tide

She doesn’t “seem” to be a Christian of any variety, though only God can really X-ray her soul. Let’s say the devil is using her bigtime.


44 posted on 06/15/2014 11:36:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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45 posted on 06/15/2014 11:37:41 AM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Bluestocking

Craziness has hit the country. Whatever these “same sex” arrangements are, they are not marriages. They put an accent on the perverse.


46 posted on 06/15/2014 11:38:19 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: detective; Mrs. Don-o; All
Pelosi is NOT a Catholic.

The following is not one of my usual anti-Catholic bloviations.

Regardless of what Pelosi "really" is, she is officially Catholic. She regularly receives communion, which implies she is a "Catholic in good standing" as well as free of all "mortal sin."

Not just obnoxious anti-Catholics like myself, but all decent people, including those friendly to the Catholic Church would really love to see some form of discipline visited on Pelosi and people like her. Considering that the Catholic Church as recently as the Sixties excommunicated segregationists in Louisiana, there is simply no good reason for this. One may speak of how "the Church thinks in centuries" but in the past someone with Pelosi's beliefs would never even have come into existence under the Catholic Church.

She and her fellows have not been excommunicated, not because the Church thinks in centuries, but because of radicalism and subversion in the highest reaches of the Catholic Church.

47 posted on 06/15/2014 11:41:56 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

When there is too much nod and wink in Christendom, the good Lord will chasten it until it remembers what its Savior is about — which is certainly not about perverting marriage. That we can count on.


48 posted on 06/15/2014 11:46:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ebb tide

And she wasn’t denied Communion in the Vatican either.


49 posted on 06/15/2014 11:50:29 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Chaotic, unorganized independent congregationalism certainly has its drawbacks. So does high centralization, in that when things go wrong at the top, they automatically go wrong everywhere.


50 posted on 06/15/2014 11:52:53 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It’s called Christian Marriage.


51 posted on 06/15/2014 11:53:02 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
“she is officially Catholic. She regularly receives communion, which implies she is a “Catholic in good standing” as well as free of all “mortal sin.””

You confuse outward appearances and self-identification with true, sincere faith.

Pelosi’s actions and statements are diametrically opposed to all true Catholic beliefs. Because she lies and says she is a Catholic does not make it so. Her receiving Holy Communion in a State of sin is in itself a mortal sin and an abomination in the eyes of God.

Many people dishonestly claim to be what they are not. Every murderer in prison says he is innocent. That does not make it so.

52 posted on 06/15/2014 11:53:06 AM PDT by detective
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Way over the line. Public decree of excommunication is in order.


53 posted on 06/15/2014 12:00:11 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: detective
You confuse outward appearances and self-identification with true, sincere faith.

According to Catholicism, internal realities are inherently subjective. That's why it has water baptism instead of the mystical inward "new birth" and confession instead of someone obtaining forgiveness directly. These provide sure, certain, external, and objective surety (at least that's the theory).

Pelosi’s actions and statements are diametrically opposed to all true Catholic beliefs. Because she lies and says she is a Catholic does not make it so. Her receiving Holy Communion in a State of sin is in itself a mortal sin and an abomination in the eyes of God.

It is most unfortunate that so many Catholics try to have it both ways. They slam Protestantism for its subjectivism and lack of externals, then when there are bad Catholics they fall back on that exact same internalism and subjectivity.

Priests and (especially) bishops, as successors of the apostles, I assume are supposed to have a certain degree of responsibility to see to it that externals and internals match up. That they refuse to do this is a grave scandal to even the Church's friends, much less its enemies.

If Pelosi is committing "mortal sin," then it is the duty of her bishop to provide discipline.

I was once asked to leave the Catholic Church because I interpreted the Bible "literally." Now, if I could be told I wasn't really Catholic, don't you think someone somewhere could say the same to Pelosi? Otherwise the impression I get is that "literal" interpretation of the Bible is a greater offense to Catholicism than all that Pelosi is guilty of.

54 posted on 06/15/2014 12:03:52 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Venom masquerading as virtue"


55 posted on 06/15/2014 12:13:15 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"venom masquerading as virtue."

While her alliteration is better, I would classify homosexuality as "perversion masquerading as equality."

56 posted on 06/15/2014 12:16:37 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Zionist Conspirator
“It is most unfortunate that so many Catholics try to have it both ways. They slam Protestantism for its subjectivism and lack of externals, then when there are bad Catholics they fall back on that exact same internalism and subjectivity.”

I have never “slammed Protestantism”. I admire those who are sincere in their faith and consider them brothers in Christ. I have told Protestants that I know that I consider us brothers in Christ.

There is only so much that can be said about Pelosi and the other evil people who lie and claim they are Catholics.

It saddens me that the hierarchy for whatever reason refuses to stand up for its faith and excommunicate these evil people. It embarrasses me when I hear people like Pelosi describe herself as Catholic and no one in the hierarchy will dispute her.

But I will never let the evil of people like Pelosi or the failings of some in the Catholic church weaken my faith.

57 posted on 06/15/2014 12:20:41 PM PDT by detective
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To: irishjuggler

I often wonder if Pope Francis has any idea how much damage he did with that comment,

...I doubt that he has many ideas at all...


58 posted on 06/15/2014 12:42:26 PM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Pelosi, who is one of the country's most powerful Catholic politicians...

Guffaw!

59 posted on 06/15/2014 12:42:47 PM PDT by upchuck (... honesty is the never-ending rehearsal for those who want to be the friends of God...)
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To: irishjuggler

Invoking the words of Pope Francis with regard to gays and lesbians, she wrote, “If someone is gay and is searching for the Lord and has good will, then who am I to judge him?”

I often wonder if Pope Francis has any idea how much damage he did with that comment, and, if so, whether he feels any remorse for it.


The problem is that Pope Francis’s words were taken entirely outside of the context of his statement. He was following up on a question regarding the issue of homosexuals within the Catholic clergy. His response was to not automatically assume that anyone who is a homosexual is incapable of living a celibate lifestyle such as the priesthood. Hence his statement of not judging anyone who might be striving to live a holy lifestyle.


60 posted on 06/15/2014 12:43:51 PM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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