Happy Independence Day everybody!
Posted on 07/04/2014 4:55:56 AM PDT by markomalley
Happy Independence Day everybody!
Who didn’t know this? All the privacy stuff is basically setup and/or run by NSA. It’s a key method for spying on the people who want privacy.
“It’s a key method for spying on the people who want privacy.”
Wonderful.
Agreed. Better to hide in plain sight than to try and use these obfuscation networks.
It's not that we don't know, it's that we want to make it just that much harder to get our data.
You have to remember, Snowden revealed that the NSA catalogs everything that happens over unencrypted channels (i.e. HTTP). That would include our conversations here on FR.
The point isn't that using SSL is any more secure, it's just more difficult to pluck pertinent data from the transactions. The NSA may have backdoors or special keys to infiltrate SSL connections, but they cannot account for every single private key, hash, or salt algorithm. There's still a significant amount of translation that has to be done to encrypted traffic. They may get it eventually, but using encryption makes it just that much more work; work that the NSA may not be willing to do if you're just a home user trying to keep your credit card information secure.
All due respect, sir, but that's very ignorant of you. The NSA isn't your biggest concern, it's the hackers around the globe who sell your personal data to criminal enterprises. The NSA is subversive and a threat to our liberty, but criminals are a threat to your life and your livelihood.
It's better to live securely behind a cloak than to live in the open and expose yourself.
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!
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Well yes. I certainly use SSL when using my bank’s website but I was thinking more about revolutionary type stuff.
Though I’m sure the NSA scrapes the data from this site constantly, I would rather post here openly than cause greater scrutiny going through an anonymizer proxy.
I remember when PGP was fairly new and the thinking was that 100% of the people should encrypt 100% of their communication using PGP. The point was not (necessarily) that it could or could not be cracked. The point was that it would be tremendously hard work for the bad guys to figure out who was transmitting their shopping list and who was transmitting rosters for their militia unit.
Great! No wonder NSA/CIA failed to protect us in Lybia, Syria, Ukraine, Iraq and other places.
They are spending their money, time and manpower monitoring us.
M4L
Well...
Isn’t THAT special?
Ping
That is a great post.
Yep. Did you ever wonder what all those program updates were for?
This is an upside down admin. Privacy = transparency. Transparency = privacy.
The funny thing about PGP: the black hat community, among others, has a saying, “There’s a reason that PGP stands for ‘pretty good’ protection. Because that’s all it is.”
There are myriad encryption topologies available out there. It takes some time and research to implement properly, but once setup, you’re assured privacy for as long as you’re willing to maintain the environment.
SSL should be used for everything you do, including web browsing. FR is the only site on my “exempt” list for SSL. Anywhere else, if I can’t connect via SSL, I don’t connect at all.
My wife calls me crazy, says I’m missing out on so much. My privacy is worth more than the garbage out there.
My question....is this whole security-upgrade thing becoming a con to get our permission to collect and use our data?
We just call them the ACA or IRS now.
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