In Maryland, Smoking Could Cost You Job

Insurance News Net ^ | July 5 '14 | Lorraine Mirabella

[JRandomFreeper]

Hitler was also a rabid anti-smoker.

/johnny

[Drango]

Godwin’s law!

[JRandomFreeper]

Hit dog yelps.

/johnny

[Gay State Conservative]

A policy such as this enacted by a *health care facility* is,it could be argued,a reasonable one.Ditto employees of schools and nursing homes.But not for most types of employers.However,it’s reasonable for *all* employers to charge employees who smoke more for health insurance,just as it’s reasonable for a life insurance company to charge a higher premium for those who skydive.

[hal ogen]

maryland is THE Freak state...where the LIBs/DIMs are a laugh a minute.

[Drango]

...could be argued,a reasonable one...But not for most types of employers.

Reducing medical/insurance expenses is a legitimate goal of all firms.

[JRandomFreeper]

Reducing medical/insurance expenses is a legitimate goal of all firms.

Have to get rid of the overweight, the gays, people that drink, and those with a genetic pre-disposition to cancer then, too.

/johnny

[Scrambler Bob]

How else, besides smoking or chewing, might a person become “positive” for nicotine, detected via a urine test.

Tobacco farmer, cigar roller, janitor (sweeps up butts), and who else?

How about that dreaded ‘second hand smoke’? Will that contaminate the innocent?

What does the test really detect? Nicotine itself, some byproduct of nicotine the body products, .... ?

And what other products may mimic that ‘positive’ nicotine test?

Well, well, well, the Ultimate Authority Wikipedia:

Nicotine (IUPAC nomenclature (S)-3-(1-methylpyrrolidin-2-il) pyridine) is a pyrrolidine alkaloid produced in large quantities in the tobacco plant (Nicotiana tabacum), but is also found in lower concentrations in other species such as the potato, tomato, and pepper.

So, be sure to not stand downwind from a potato or tomato farmer; don’t pick up that second-hand vapor.

[Gay State Conservative]

Reducing medical/insurance expenses is a legitimate goal of all firms.

Unless I'm mistaken SCOTUS ruled a few years back that it's OK for an employer to fire/lay off an employee simply because he/she cost more than a person willing to work for less money than the person laid off.As I said higher premiums for smokers is reasonable for all employers,IMO.But refusal to hire is reasonable,IMO,for health care facilities because of potential health hazards for patients.

[redgolum]

As long as women have free contraception, it’s all good. /sarcasm

[Road Warrior ‘04]

Back about thirty years ago, I was interviewing for a job, was very nervous, but was told I was getting the job. In the conference room where we were meeting, there was an ashtray, complete with ashes, on the table. In my nervous state, I asked if I could light up. (I obviously smoked back then) When they found out I smoked, they rescinded their offer and told me they didn't hire "smokers". Come to find out that it was totally legal to do that.

Just sayin'. This isn't just happening now.

[Jeff Chandler]

Yeah, what about faggotry?

[Jack Hydrazine]

How do you prove a negative?

[PLMerite]

” how bout making welfare RATS take one tooo??? “

Right. If the people are paying for any part of your upkeep, you don’t have any spare money for vices, cable tv, etc.

[Vendome]

Prove I don’t drink Diet Soda.

I hear it’s got effects that cause cancer...

[Trailerpark Badass]

When you agree with any public policy from the state of Maryland, it’s time to seriously rethink your life.

[Drango]

How do you prove a negative?

Apparently they measure for cotinine, and if you don't have a high or medium level you're good.

[Chode]

monthly drug/alcohol/nicotine tests or not one more penny... if we have to take tests to MAKE the money TAKEN from us to GIVE to them, then they should have to take tests to GET the money

[fieldmarshaldj]

...but pole smoking is A-OK !

[RossA]

Hint: marijuana use may not be distinguishable from tobacco. So lurch around a bit and look high...you’re covered....maybe.