Posted on 07/21/2014 4:53:14 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
At the site of MH17, the only experts are currently being provided by the rebel forces, not by outside authorities trained in these matters. At this time, rebels are performing a fair amount of their own autospies....
When the rebels first arrived to patrol the scene, certain victims were taken away very quickly. Reports indicate that 38 bodies were taken to a morgue in Donetsk....
Yet, the fate of those 38 bodies, and why they were rapidly removed, is still unknown.
The general consensus is that the rebels removed bodies to hide evidence, as they seemed to be very particular about which bodies were taken, and how quickly they were moved. There are even claims that the rebels took bodies away from emergency workers at gunpoint....
The rebels seem to have trained investigators, who are able to identify shrapnel damage; the rebels knew what kind of bodily damage to look for; and the rebels seemed to easily and rapidly divided evidence into three categories: leave intact, investigate alone, burn....
This could indicate that they seek to eliminate all evidence that a missile was fired at the plane.
This also indicates that these 38 bodies may have already been destroyed, rather than just autopsied, by the rebel forces. Some may have even been burned on the spot.
Reporter Nazanine Moshiri, who is at the crash site, said, "Just passed by Donetsk morgue. The refrigerated truck with MH17 bodies has gone. Moved by separatists. It is not clear where?"
It seems, beyond reasonable doubt, those victims have vanished, and their bodies will likely not be recovered, nor properly identified by authorities....
Alexander Borodai, who has proclaimed himself the Prime Minister of the pro-Russian separatist Donetsk People's Republic, has said the separatists have not touched any bodies.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
Savages the lot of them.
I’ve read reports where some of the victims’ credit cards have been used.
This goes beyond tragedy. Now it’s numbingly absurd. The rebels (Russia/Putin) have taken bodies, the remnants of someone’s mother, father, son, daughter, etc and burned them to hide evidence. This is worthy of international tribunals. It won’t happen because we’re so postmodern.
Where are all the Putinistas now? The defender of Christianity they called him.
Quietly waiting for this to blow over?
Get ready for the “Lightning caused the plane to explode.” Leave it up to the Russians for excuses i.e.; “It was a cold summer in Katyn.”
World Peace, LOL, like that is ever going to happen.
Putin makes official statement in connection with Boeing disaster in Ukraine
Vladimir Putin made a special statement about the crash of the Malaysian Boeing-777 in Ukraine. He noted that if the military operations had not been resumed in the region on June 28th, then the disaster would not have happened. Putin reminded that Russia repeatedly “urged all warring parties to immediately stop the bloodshed and to sit down at the negotiating table.”
Putin called the crash a terrible tragedy, and stressed out that nobody had the right “to use it to achieve selfish political objectives,” ITAR-TASS reports. Such events should unite, not divide people, the Russian president said. “All those responsible for the situation in the region should increase responsibility to their people and to the peoples of the countries, whose representatives have fallen victims of this disaster,” he said.
The Russian President urged the conflicting parties to ensure full investigation of the disaster. One should ensure the safety of international experts, he said. “Today representatives of Donbass, Donetsk, representatives of the Emergencies Ministry of Ukraine, experts from Malaysia are already working there on the crash site, but this is not enough,” said Putin. According to him, a “full-fledged team of experts under the auspices of ICAO, the international commission” should be working there. Humanitarian corridors should be created accordingly for the team, said the Russian leader.
Putin assured that Russia would do everything in its power so that “the conflict in eastern Ukraine moves from today’s military phase to the phase of discussions at the negotiating table, exclusively through peaceful and diplomatic means.”
http://english.pravda.ru/news/russia/21-07-2014/128099-putin_boeing_statement-0/#.U80Eh_ldWSo
It also doesn’t help that Russia has nukes and is on the UN Security Council and supplies Europe with gas.
They’ve definitely gone into hiding on this site —
It sounds like Putin has been taking lessons from Obama -- it's politics that brought that plane down.
.....In other words,.........see.you.in.court.Putin!
“Politics” didn’t fire the missile. A human being did. The question is - who and why?
The truth, while we all “know” what happened, will never be known.
Some idiot running the system was tracking the plane. Probably some group of idiots being trained on the system. And they pushed the button.
Imagine pulling the trigger on a firearm thinking the safety was on. And it wasn’t.
Politics may answer the “why” part.
From my FB friend who lives in Ukraine when I asked him his opinion:
“Separatists with a weapon supplied by Russia. And I believe, with some doubt, they thought it was a military target. Big mistake. Nonetheless, it is what it is and Russia is responsible for providing such a weapon to them. Civilian airliners give off signals to the ground that are peculiar only to passenger planes. Either the shooters ignored the signals or didn’t understand them.
Another possibility is that trained people purposely did it to try to cast the blame on Ukraine. The Soviet playbook would be involved.”
There is often nothing more deliberate than an accidental mistake:
Ohhh I’m sorry — I didn’t mean to aim that at you and pull the trigger!!!
No, No, No, It was the center fuel tank...
“...and supplies Europe with gas.”
Ronald Reagan warned the Europeans to not become dependent on the Soviet Union for their energy needs, and to not build that pipeline.
President Reagan knew that someday, the Russians would have the Europeans over a barrel, quite literally. And he was right.
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