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Wine cup used by Pericles found in grave north of Athens
ekathimerini.com ^ | Wednesday Jul 30, 2014 (14:14)

Posted on 07/31/2014 5:12:42 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

The cup was likely used in a wine symposium when Pericles was in his twenties, and the six men who drank from it scrawled their names as a memento, experts say.

A cup believed to have been used by Classical Greek statesman Pericles has been found in a pauper's grave in north Athens, according to local reports Wednesday.

The ceramic wine cup, smashed in 12 pieces, was found during building construction in the northern Athens suburb of Kifissia, Ta Nea daily said.

After piecing it together, archaeologists were astounded to find the name "Pericles" scratched under one of its handles, alongside the names of five other men, in apparent order of seniority.

Experts are "99 per cent" sure that the cup was used by the Athenian statesman, as one of the other names listed, Ariphron, is that of Pericles' elder brother.

"The name Ariphron is extremely rare," Angelos Matthaiou, secretary of the Greek Epigraphic Society, told the newspaper.

"Having it listed above that of Pericles makes us 99 per cent sure that these are the two brothers," he said.

The cup was likely used in a wine symposium when Pericles was in his twenties, and the six men who drank from it scrawled their names as a memento, Matthaiou said.

"They were definitely woozy, as whoever wrote Pericles' name made a mistake and had to correct it," he said.

The cup was then apparently gifted to another man named Drapetis ("escapee" in Greek) who was possibly a slave servant or the owner of the tavern, said archaeologist Galini Daskalaki.

"This is a rare find, a genuine glimpse into a private moment," she said.

Ironically, the cup was found on Sparta street, Athens' great rival and nemesis in the Peloponnesian War that tore apart the Greek city-states for nearly 30 years.

General of Athens during the city's Golden Age, Pericles died of the plague in 429 BC during a Spartan siege.

The cup will be displayed in the autumn at the Epigraphical Museum in Athens. [AFP]


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: angelosmatthaiou; ariphron; athens; drapetis; galinidaskalaki; godsgravesglyphs; greece; kifissia; pericles

1 posted on 07/31/2014 5:12:42 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin

scratched under the handle....okay...but when??


2 posted on 07/31/2014 5:15:16 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: DeaconBenjamin
on the inside bottom was;

drink your ovaltine

3 posted on 07/31/2014 5:15:52 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

That inscription on the left side says “World’s Best Boss”......


4 posted on 07/31/2014 5:17:09 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Is there such a thing as a vegan zombie?)
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To: knarf

A crummy comercial?.... SOB!

__Ralphie Parker in A Christmas Story


5 posted on 07/31/2014 5:19:06 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: V_TWIN; knarf

you’ll shoot your eye out kid!


6 posted on 07/31/2014 5:26:53 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Kilroy was here.


7 posted on 07/31/2014 5:38:01 AM PDT by preacher (I am not a global warming hoax denier.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Can this somehow be tied to global warming? Its how you get a Federale grant


8 posted on 07/31/2014 5:38:59 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: knarf

“Please see other cup”


9 posted on 07/31/2014 5:40:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Buried next to him was that famous historic feminist,
Mysogenes.


10 posted on 07/31/2014 5:40:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Experts are "99 per cent" sure that the cup was used by the Athenian statesman, as one of the other names listed, Ariphron, is that of Pericles' elder brother. "The name Ariphron is extremely rare," Angelos Matthaiou, secretary of the Greek Epigraphic Society, told the newspaper. "Having it listed above that of Pericles makes us 99 per cent sure that these are the two brothers," he said.

No, the experts are 99% certain that the two people listed on the cup are brothers, not that the Pericles listed is the famous Pericles.

11 posted on 07/31/2014 5:52:26 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: preacher

Ha!!

Or, ‘World’s Best Dad’


12 posted on 07/31/2014 6:04:47 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Sacajaweau
“Scratched under the handle....okay...but when??”

The date (435 BC) is also marked on it.

13 posted on 07/31/2014 6:06:33 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: CrazyIvan

Yep!


14 posted on 07/31/2014 6:09:00 AM PDT by gr8eman (Bill Carson...meet Arch Stanton!)
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To: CrazyIvan
The date (435 BC) is also marked on it.

Sounds legit to me...

15 posted on 07/31/2014 6:10:47 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: knarf

Expecting a big red SOLO cup.


16 posted on 07/31/2014 6:12:45 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Pericles couldn’t even spell his name right and corrected it. That in itself gives me doubt.


17 posted on 07/31/2014 6:14:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Hold muh pottery and watch this.................


18 posted on 07/31/2014 6:16:38 AM PDT by Hyman Roth
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To: DeaconBenjamin

I’m going to carve “I used this. Barack Hussein Obama.” on a dildo and bury it in DC somewhere. In a thousand years, some archeologist will uncover it and say, without a shadow of a doubt, it was his.

I’ll do the same with a jock strap and sign his wife’s name.


19 posted on 07/31/2014 6:19:52 AM PDT by mindburglar (When Superman and Batman fight, the only winner is crime.)
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If You Want To Keep FR
Support It

Support It Or Lose It!

20 posted on 07/31/2014 6:24:02 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: mindburglar

In the age of Obama the name of Pericles is thrust into the public discussion from dusty corners of the distant path. Regardless of whether or not this was “the” Pericles, just more evidence that G*d works in mysterious ways. A drunk Pericles was worth more than Obama’s whole administration.


21 posted on 07/31/2014 6:46:05 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: mindburglar

LMAO!


22 posted on 07/31/2014 7:14:16 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: SunkenCiv

Didn’t see your name on any post so thought you would be interested.

Extraordinary ‘find’ IMO.


23 posted on 07/31/2014 10:52:01 AM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one... what's your plan?)
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To: wildbill; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks wildbill, agreed, this is extraordinary.
...one of the other names listed, Ariphron, is that of Pericles' elder brother. "The name Ariphron is extremely rare," Angelos Matthaiou, secretary of the Greek Epigraphic Society, told the newspaper. "Having it listed above that of Pericles makes us 99 per cent sure that these are the two brothers," he said. The cup was likely used in a wine symposium when Pericles was in his twenties, and the six men who drank from it scrawled their names as a memento, Matthaiou said. "They were definitely woozy, as whoever wrote Pericles' name made a mistake and had to correct it," he said.
I didn't check, but hope that this ping is in before the "archaeology is graverobbing" post.

24 posted on 07/31/2014 6:10:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: CrazyIvan

lol

435 BC

I don’t think they were counting down back then. lol


25 posted on 07/31/2014 6:14:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

26 posted on 07/31/2014 6:14:45 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin; SunkenCiv

So drunk he misspelled his name? That must have been a hell of a party. Betcha hetairae were present for the entertainment.


27 posted on 07/31/2014 6:25:12 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

Heh, when he got to be first among equals, his chief advisor *was* one. :’D And how did that work out? He gave an impassioned harangue in favor of war with Sparta, and wound up dying of whatever the plague was (typhus?) during the siege in the early years of the war.

Thereafter the Athenians made significant progress, defeating the Spartans in a land battle near Pylos, resulting in a years-long truce. Instead of building on that victory by walling off their enemies and supporting helot uprisings against the Spartans, they decided to send a large expeditionary force to Sicily to conquer Syracuse, get their asses handed to them, and meanwhile carrying out sentences of death in ways reminiscent of Shirley Jackson’s “The Lottery”. I don’t think drunkenness was confined to Pericles.


28 posted on 07/31/2014 6:34:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

archaeology is graverobbing - give me my families cup back!


29 posted on 07/31/2014 6:41:31 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: MrB

Nice.


30 posted on 07/31/2014 6:42:12 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Wow. Gotta say this discovery blows my hair back!

As for the name misspelling, I can totally see someone else writing everyone’s name on there, and Pericles or his brother correcting him. (Or maybe it was the brother who couldn’t spell, leading to a “Hey, doofus!” moment from Pericles. ;)


31 posted on 07/31/2014 7:05:59 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: 1010RD

Finders keepers! ;’)


32 posted on 07/31/2014 8:11:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Argh! Can’t we parley before you pull out the big legal terms?


33 posted on 07/31/2014 8:58:14 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

A drunk Pericles was worth more than Obama’s whole administration.

***
Thanks for putting this into perspective. :)

I am struck also by the reference to the fact that Pericles died of the plague. Obama’s Ebola plague and his illegal alien TB plague come to mind.


34 posted on 08/01/2014 5:19:48 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Syracuse expedition is a fascinating story, but you are right it was a blunder for the ages. As we would say today, Pericles had a lot of ‘splainin’ to do.


35 posted on 08/01/2014 10:34:30 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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