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Five Ways Russia Could Help China's Military Become Even Deadlier
The National Interest ^ | August 2, 2014 | Robert Farley

Posted on 08/01/2014 11:30:45 PM PDT by wetphoenix

The continued deterioration of relations between Russia and NATO may not yet have resulted in a new Cold War, but it’s undoubtedly produce an environment in which Russia has independent reasons to try to hurt the United States.

While the arms trade between China and Russia exploded after the fall of the Soviet Union, shipments of major systems slowed in the early part of last decade. Part of the reason was demand; China felt that it no longer needed to pay top dollar for Russian systems that it could build itself. Another reason, however, involved Russian intellectual property concerns stemming from Chinese copying, and potential export, of Russian military systems. This made Russia reluctant to export its most sophisticated weapons.

But now we find ourselves in a situation where Moscow has become willing to take risks in order to give Washington a headache. One way in which Russia can do this is overcoming any internal obstacles to the export of sophisticated weapons to China.

Although the Russian defense industry has decayed since the end of the Cold War, it still retains a great deal of expertise and human capital, which China (a growing military power) could use to good effect. What kind of systems might this involve? Here are five areas in which Russia-China collaboration could prove useful to Beijing, and problematic for America.

Jet Engines

Engine construction has been one of the biggest roadblocks in the Chinese aviation industry over the past decade. Problems with power and reliability afflict not only legacy systems (such as the J-10, J-11, and J-15), but also China’s new stealth fighter prototypes, the J-20 and the J-31.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalinterest.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; china; comdwar2; communists; military; redchina; russia
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To: SampleMan
All in the peaceful embrace of Russia, no doubt.

You must not be familiar with the February 20th Agreement in which the old government of Ukraine agreed to restore the 2004 Constitution, form an interim unity government with the opposition, pass constitutional reforms rebalancing power within the branches of government, and hold early elections for both parliament and then president.

If that agreement had been adhered to, Ukraine would have already completed the constitutional reforms and democratic elections would have been scheduled for next month. All while adhering to the rule of law and upholding the constitutional order.

The agreement held no guarantee that Russian influence in Ukraine would be replaced by Europe, but it was an internationally agreed solution to the crisis which Russia would have had to abide.

21 posted on 08/02/2014 2:05:24 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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22 posted on 08/02/2014 2:05:44 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ansel12

~As one generation of freedom warriors age, a new generation of American and Europeans have to replace them, to defend the free world from Russia~

It seems like freedom warriors are too busy looking the wrong way.
One day they would wake up a jack-booted thugs and there would be no freedom for them to fight for anymore.

BTW, I wonder what kind of regime you’d like to see in Russia to be pleased? Or maybe your hatred is existential, a kind like Palis vs Israel?


23 posted on 08/02/2014 7:28:44 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

I don’t hate anyone, and your advice for how America and NATO should not resist Russian aggression would appear less hysterically funny if you were not a Russian military man posting a threat to America, in his thread called “”Five Ways Russia Could Help China’s Military Become Even Deadlier”” (if Americans and NATO don’t allow us to conquer as we please).

So comply, or our evil empire will do more to strengthen the other evil empire that we have been teamed with to destroy America and the West for generations, and collectively have killed almost a 100 million people already.


24 posted on 08/02/2014 7:43:37 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

You are wrong ansel. I actually came through the article on yahoo and posted it here for discussion because I find an idea of Russian-Chinese alliance and by itself is amusing. It is innatural and wrong on many levels to me.

As for the rest you wrote, you probably missed Nixon and Kissinger who actually allied US to Red China, to counter Russia in the first place. Not to mention a ‘free trade’ crap which made a weak Chicom lizard into a dragon, at the expense of US economy.


25 posted on 08/02/2014 8:00:16 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

I would love, to meat you. Got snax?


26 posted on 08/02/2014 8:02:14 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: wetphoenix

Actually I was serving under Nixon, in the Army, at that time.

You posted the article, and the article is yet another one of your arguments for the military that you serve, and the current situation that you signed up here for.

Taiwan, Japan, Australia, etc. would question your description of us and China being “allies”.


27 posted on 08/02/2014 8:14:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Alliance is a complex definition. Would you argue my version of why China has become a superpower these days?


28 posted on 08/02/2014 8:18:48 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

The story isn’t written yet on China, but as the thread you posted points out, they are still evil enough for Russia to ally with, as an evil team.


29 posted on 08/02/2014 8:28:49 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

~The story isn’t written yet on China, but as the thread you posted points out, they are still evil enough for Russia to ally with, as an evil team.~

“Good” and “evil” aren’t factors of foreign policy. Russia is not unique in that.


30 posted on 08/02/2014 11:33:14 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

Good and evil are factors of foreign policy, and Russia’s has always been evil. They are not known for anything else in foreign policy.


31 posted on 08/02/2014 11:39:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Hmmm, was backing Arab Spring good or evil?


32 posted on 08/02/2014 11:42:42 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

Good and evil are factors of foreign policy, and Russia’s has always been evil. They are not known for anything else in foreign policy, nothing else at all.


33 posted on 08/02/2014 11:43:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Ok, ansel, you have an agenda and it’s useless to argue with you:)


34 posted on 08/02/2014 11:48:10 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

“I” have an agenda???????

A Russian military man, living in Russia, signs up here in March to push the Russian propaganda line on Ukraine, and posts threads like this threat thread, and I am the one with an agenda?

I’m here for America and conservative politics, supporting Russia and rebuilding the evil empire isn’t on my menu.


35 posted on 08/02/2014 11:55:27 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: wetphoenix
you probably missed Nixon and Kissinger who actually allied US to Red China, to counter Russia in the first place. Not to mention a ‘free trade’ crap which made a weak Chicom lizard into a dragon, at the expense of US economy.

You are quite right about that WP.

36 posted on 08/03/2014 5:33:29 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: All

Meanwhile China is sitting back saying you go at it boys. You’ll make easier on us to beat the winner.


37 posted on 08/03/2014 5:42:48 AM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours)
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To: wetphoenix

The problem being that Russia would sell China one jet engine, one nuclear submarine, one Backfire bomber and then sit back and watch China make their own copies without paying any licensing fees.


38 posted on 08/03/2014 5:52:49 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

~The problem being that Russia would sell China one jet engine, one nuclear submarine, one Backfire bomber and then sit back and watch China make their own copies without paying any licensing fees.~

All true, but here is a question, what makes Russia allied with China (which is it’s natural enemy) instead of America (while there are no existential reasons to restart a cold war)?


39 posted on 08/03/2014 6:13:08 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: mac_truck

February 18-21? Same time that at least 88 people were killed in 48 hours by uniformed snipers firing at protesters and reportedly at the police as well. The same snipers killing people on both sides. Instigating more violence? Who do you think was behind that?

Feb. 22, Yanukovych seeks Russian help in crushing Ukrainians.

Feb.27, Russians start seizing Crimea.

So you fault the Ukrainians for not trusting Yanukovych.


40 posted on 08/03/2014 8:43:47 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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