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The Current Ebola Strain: It’s Airborne Folks
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | 8-5-14 | sundance

Posted on 08/05/2014 6:15:51 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

The empirical evidence of an airborne Ebola Strain is overwhelming

Hat Tip GWP - Patrick Sawyer was the American businessman, who contracted Ebola while working in Liberia, then collapsed after he got off a plane to Nigeria and died July 25. He was the first patient in Nigeria with the Ebola virus. The Nigerian authorities have refused to release the names of other passengers on the plane with Mr. Sawyer, or notify the media of their status.

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To: Cold Heat

Oops, I got the publication date of the WHO document wrong. It was published in 2009, not 1999... I have no idea how I made that mistake, since I was looking directly at the pdf file when I typed that.


161 posted on 08/06/2014 4:16:42 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom
Explain if a virus is a living or non-living thing?

It cannot replicate on it's own. It is a thin protein shell with some DNA arranged in a particular manner which may change as it mutates. It can only replicate or reproduce inside a host cell.

By this fact, it is not a living organism. It is more like a chemical code which given the ideal environment, replicates in it's host until antibodies break it apart or it has caused an immune response such as elevated temperature which it may not like. The final outcome may be death, by which it goes back to it's dormant state in the environment.

162 posted on 08/06/2014 4:24:55 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: blackdog

A virus is not considered alive. The best way to describe it is “active.”

However, when it is deactivated, scientists (such as myself) do use the term “killed.” We use that term for any biologically active entity that has been rendered inactive; proteins and chemical reactions can also be “killed.”

Once a virus is killed, it cannot be made active again.


163 posted on 08/06/2014 4:33:17 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Airborne Ebola, straight out of this Novel:


164 posted on 08/06/2014 4:43:18 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: exDemMom

Thank you for all of your sane, informative posts.


165 posted on 08/06/2014 5:21:19 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Uh Oh...

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166 posted on 08/06/2014 5:31:10 AM PDT by cmsgop ( The left always accuses the right for the sins of the left. from FReeper Just Lori, RIP)
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bump!


167 posted on 08/06/2014 7:21:48 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: exDemMom

Hey (ex) DEM, you don’t do it with ascorbic acid, Dr Cathcart uses sodium ascorbate. And it does not induce organ failure, as you suggest...your putting down what you don’t want to know or understand pretty well tells us where you stand...i.e., with Big Pharma, no doubt.

But either sodium ascorbate or ascorbic acid will work for IV-C. I have seen both used successfully on cancer patients, doses up to 150-200 grams at a time, administered over an hour or two, three times a week. There are doctors who understand vitamin C and who use it successfully administered in IV’s.

The other thing you may not understand is that bowel tolerance for vitamin C goes up as the need for it goes up. Because of this very large doses can be administered orally without causing diarrhea.

Animals who do make their own vitamin C produce much larger quantities when stressed with viral loads.

Either IM or IV-C will stop the effects of poisonous snake or spider bite immediately. Much more effective than anti-venom.


168 posted on 08/06/2014 7:29:03 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping.


169 posted on 08/06/2014 7:40:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (If everything is terrorism, then nothing is terrorism - former senior FBI special agent David Gomez)
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To: LurkingSince'98
I asked the question: Why Oh Why are they suited up with respirators if there is no airborne hazard????

A question I asked also...

170 posted on 08/06/2014 7:42:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (If everything is terrorism, then nothing is terrorism - former senior FBI special agent David Gomez)
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To: GOPJ; LurkingSince'98
Ebola is studied and stored in level 4 Bio Labs. The Highest level of Biosafety protocols.

Yet the "experts" are saying it would not be a problem because it is not airborne...

I want to see one of these "experts" locked in a room with some poor soul who is bleeding out every orifice and have them sneeze on the "expert"...

171 posted on 08/06/2014 7:50:21 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Smokin' Joe

As was Bush I


172 posted on 08/06/2014 7:52:25 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There’s an interesting case to be made for the Black Death being hemorrhagic fever, similar to Ebola and Marburg.

http://www.nature.com/scitable/blog/viruses101/could_the_black_death_actually


173 posted on 08/06/2014 7:55:34 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Mad Dawgg

According to the CDC Ebola is a Category A biological weapon:

Bioterrorism Agents/Diseases

A to Z | By category

Category A

Definition

The U.S. public health system and primary healthcare providers must be prepared to address various biological agents, including pathogens that are rarely seen in the United States. High-priority agents include organisms that pose a risk to national security because they
•can be easily disseminated or transmitted from person to person;
•result in high mortality rates and have the potential for major public health impact;
•might cause public panic and social disruption; and
•require special action for public health preparedness.

Agents/Diseases
•Anthrax (Bacillus anthracis)
•Botulism (Clostridium botulinum toxin)
•Plague (Yersinia pestis)
•Smallpox (variola major)
•Tularemia (Francisella tularensis)
•Viral hemorrhagic fevers (filoviruses [e.g., Ebola, Marburg] and arenaviruses [e.g., Lassa, Machupo])

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/agentlist-category.asp


174 posted on 08/06/2014 7:57:33 AM PDT by Justa
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To: exDemMom; nuconvert

Amen.

Such a pleasant surprise this morning to read coherent and informed comments on FR instead of the standard ebola hyperbole.


175 posted on 08/06/2014 8:02:38 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I don’t see any merit in trying to use the Patrick Sawyer case to argue that ebola is airborne.

Have you read about his last days? He contracted the disease from his sister, for whom he was caregiver. He denied being ill, denied having any exposure when questioned by authorities, then proceeded to infect everyone he traveled with through vomit, feces, and even stripping and urinating on hospital personnel.

When he died, he left a trail of infective body fluids behind. There is simply no reason to argue “airborne” using the Sawyer case.

Can it happen? Certainly. This stuff is scary enough without spinning imaginary scenarios. There has, to date, been no verifiable case of a human infected and ill from airborne exposure. Let’s save the hyperbole until that happens.


176 posted on 08/06/2014 8:14:54 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Pox

You run for the tall grass real fast Pox..

Next time ya pop off with your hysterical reckless and baseless implications, ya best be prepared to back it up Pox.

See ya....


177 posted on 08/06/2014 8:43:42 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

hi GGpa

do you have a link or website to Cathcart’s studies on sodium ascorbate?

Thanks
Lurking’


178 posted on 08/06/2014 8:47:11 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GODs)
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To: exDemMom

I find that interesting, but in some pieces I read they indicated that there were assumptions made that were not verified by science. It left a question as to was it the reston strain or a new strain similar to reston. They also believe that something like it is killing great apes.

I made a leap of logic on one of my posts where I said that I thought it could be a Eblola Zaire infection that swaps some RNA with a resident flu virus in the primate and when passed on, it looks like reston but in reality it’s a new strain of reston.

But I don’t know this.

What I do know is that macaque monkeys are very social animals. If one gets something, chances are they all get it within a geographic area.

As such I think Reston was a one off where they accidently scooped up patient zero. I think other instances of what they attribute to reston, are new instances of a Ebola Zaire combination with some other as of yet unknown factor. It could be identical, but it seems unlikely to be. I think Ebola is just a very complex bug and they have yet to fully understand it.

As to china and pigs...I have absolutely no faith in anything that is reported out of China. They make a lot of outlandish claims and they browbeat anyone who does not agree with it. It’s not that a pig could not get the virus, tests say it can, but it presents as a cold or flu and resolves it’s self.

If it was Reston, I can’t say, but it acts like it was so I think they made assumptions. Very much like what is going on in the media today.

If the Reston strain is still active, then what is carrying it? How could it jump to a pig farm? In my view it a simple case of Ebola Zaire, carried by the fruit bat that get’s into another animal and on rare occasions binds with a second virus in the animal emerging as a very close twin to Zaire but totally different and not a threat to humans.

I don’t think it’s the same Reston, I think it’s a new one.


179 posted on 08/06/2014 9:04:02 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: dragnet2

I’m quite happy to back up what I feel is necessary when the time used is productive and merits my attention.

Your blathering in this thread pointed at me no longer merits my concern nor my attention.

Have a nice day!


180 posted on 08/06/2014 9:13:06 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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