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Key Question: How Did Dallas Worker Contract Ebola?
DFW CBS Local ^ | October 12, 2014 | CBS DFW.COM/AP

Posted on 10/13/2014 8:18:43 AM PDT by Rockitz

How did it happen?

That’s the big question as U.S. health officials investigate the case of a Dallas health worker who treated an Ebola patient and ended up with the disease herself.

These are professionals and this is the United States, where the best conditions and protective gear are available, unlike in West Africa, where the Ebola epidemic is raging in much poorer conditions.

The health worker wore protective gear while having extensive contact with Thomas Eric Duncan, the Liberian man who died Wednesday of Ebola at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital.

Officials say she has not been able to pinpoint any breach in infection control protocols, although there apparently was a breach, they say.

Second Ebola Case

Experience shows that health workers can safely care for Ebola patients, “but we also know that it’s hard and that even a single breach can result in contamination,” Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said Sunday on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

The situation also raises fresh concerns about whether any U.S. hospital can safely handle Ebola patients, as health officials have insisted is possible.

“A breach in protocol could be anything from not taking your gloves off the right way to taking a dialysis catheter out of a dialysis patient and not disposing of it the right way,” explains Dr. Darrin D’Agostino, Chair of Internal Medicine UNT.

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Q: How else could infection have happened?

A: Some of the garb the health worker takes off might brush against a surface and contaminate it. New data suggest that even tiny droplets of a patient’s body fluids can contain the virus, Maki said.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: ebola; obamasfault
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"New data suggest that even tiny droplets of a patient’s body fluids can contain the virus, Maki said."

I've been saying the same thing on a prior thread for a couple days.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3213180/posts?page=10#10

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3213180/posts?page=21#21

http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/jam.1997.10.105

The Size Distribution of Droplets in the Exhaled Breath of Healthy Human Subjects

RAO S. PAPINENI and FRANK S. ROSENTHAL. Journal of Aerosol Medicine. Summer 1997, 10(2): 105-116. doi:10.1089/jam.1997.10.105.

Published in Volume: 10 Issue 2: January 30, 2009

ABSTRACT

Droplets carried in exhaled breath may carry microorganisms capable of transmitting disease over both short and long distances. The size distribution of such droplets will influence the type of organisms that may be carried as well as strategies for controlling airborne infection. The aim of this study was to characterize the size distribution of droplets exhaled by healthy individuals. Exhaled droplets from human subjects performing four respiratory actions (mouth breathing, nose breathing, coughing, talking) were measured by both an optical particle counter (OPC) and an analytical transmission electron microscope (AEM). The OPC indicated a preponderance of particles less than 1 μ, although larger particles were also found. Measurements with the AEM confirmed the existence of larger sized droplets in the exhaled breath. In general, coughing produced the largest droplet concentrations and nose breathing the least, although considerable intersubject variability was observed.

and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3213180/posts?page=22#22

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/aerosols/pdfs/aerosol_101.pdf

Virus has dimension 0.08 microns. A 1 micron droplet will stay aloft for 12 hours if created from a height of 5 ft- plenty of time to be inhaled through a N95 mask, which is the CDC protocol.

Bottom Line: This virus is effectively airborne.

1 posted on 10/13/2014 8:18:43 AM PDT by Rockitz
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To: Rockitz

Experience shows that health workers can safely care for Ebola patients


Actually, experience shows the exact opposite. What is this story about?


2 posted on 10/13/2014 8:20:28 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Rockitz

“we don’t know how she got it, but it’s all her fault”.


3 posted on 10/13/2014 8:20:43 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Rockitz

It is never mentioned that their dreamy protocol involved some kind of antibacterial (viral) shower while she was still in her year.

But they are going to blame her, not their protocol??


4 posted on 10/13/2014 8:20:46 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Gear not year sorry


5 posted on 10/13/2014 8:21:17 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Rockitz

Maybe because the thing is airborne. Their play on words is right out of the Bill Clinton playbook. The virus itself may not be airborne (yet) but if it is contained in particles floating in the air from sneezes, coughs, flushed toilets, whatever, it is airborne.


6 posted on 10/13/2014 8:24:12 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Rockitz

Maybe she touched something in the emergency waiting room just like other people did after Duncan was taken out.


7 posted on 10/13/2014 8:24:19 AM PDT by jetson (S)
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To: Rockitz
Just more lies from the leftist scientific-political establishment.

Hoping the peons don't panic.

Of course it is airborne. The patient had projectile vomiting and diarrhea, and the nurses had to go into his room and all of the airborne spewage.

People don't get it yet: This is one hundred times worse than AIDS. People should be furious about this.

8 posted on 10/13/2014 8:24:33 AM PDT by caddie
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http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00811/full/srep00811.html

Transmission of Ebola virus from pigs to non-human primates

A study conducted in 2012 showed that Ebola was able to travel between pigs and monkeys that were in separate cages and were never placed in direct contact.


9 posted on 10/13/2014 8:25:38 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Rockitz

How? The idiot in the White House let Duncan travel into the country.

Next question.


10 posted on 10/13/2014 8:25:45 AM PDT by Gamecock (USA, Ret.)
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To: caddie

They wear masks that are inadequate for screening the virus. They need much better masks.


11 posted on 10/13/2014 8:26:05 AM PDT by Eva
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To: TurboZamboni

How Did Dallas Worker Contract Ebola?
obama and the democrats are bringing in millions of illegals with all kinds of diseases. Expect the plague next.


12 posted on 10/13/2014 8:26:13 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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The answer is simple. THPH is not a Level 4 CDC certified biosafety unit. Sure, Frieden now claims any ol’ hospital can handle Ebola. Well, yeah, because there’s nothing to handle aside from pushing fluids. It’s those other pesky little things like proper equipment and training that Frieden ignores. I suspect he knows it close to hitting the fan and his CDC doesn’t have the beds.

Isolation Unit Beds

2? - Emory, Atlanta

3 - The Care and Isolation Unit in Missoula, Montana, opened in 2005 by the National Institutes of Health to serve lab workers at Rocky Mountain Laboratories, hasn’t yet served an infectious disease patient, only a handful with tuberculosis or contagious bacterial infections. The rooms look like everyday hospital rooms—white, sterile, a TV and window for entertainment. That’s because St. Patrick Hospital retrofitted three of its ICU rooms to make the unit.

10 – Omaha, Nebraska Medical Center run twice yearly drills with decontamination at their hospital’s 10-bed biocontainment unit. Opened in 2005. Has never had an infectious disease patient. Prior to Dr. Sacra in Sept., the unit had only briefly housed one patient with malaria five years ago. Malaria does not require quarantine.

7 - NIH opened a seven-bed Special Clinical Studies Unit at the Clinical Research Center in Bethesda to replace it. Its four patient rooms (two doubles and a single). Bethesda unit has only served a patient with a drug-resistant bacterial illness. “It can handle the highest level of respiratory virus, but Ebola isn’t even spread that way,” said Richard Davey, deputy clinical director of NIH’s Division of Clinical Research.

? - US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) – Ft. Detrick, Maryland.


13 posted on 10/13/2014 8:26:16 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: TurboZamboni

She got it because our idiot government let Duncan in the country!


14 posted on 10/13/2014 8:26:35 AM PDT by PROTESTBYPROXY (Invictus Maneo !!)
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To: jetson
Maybe she touched something in the emergency waiting room just like other people did

Nope. She wasn't anywhere near the waiting room (from other threads). Plus no other people are infected.

15 posted on 10/13/2014 8:27:48 AM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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Bottom Line: This virus is effectively airborne.

I don't know what makes you say that. AHH,AHHHHHHHH-CHOOOOOOOOOO.


16 posted on 10/13/2014 8:29:00 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Nope! Bush’s fault


17 posted on 10/13/2014 8:29:17 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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Is the infected nurse black? If so, then there’s no doubt that evil, white, racist, Republicans or Tea Partiers did it... Somehow.


18 posted on 10/13/2014 8:29:43 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Yaelle

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3213180/posts?page=21#21


19 posted on 10/13/2014 8:30:22 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: cuban leaf

Maybe the medical personnel need full face masks like the ones that Dental hygienists wore at he height of the AIDs epidemic.


20 posted on 10/13/2014 8:30:29 AM PDT by Eva
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