I don't know what makes you say that. AHH,AHHHHHHHH-CHOOOOOOOOOO.
I've been saying the same thing on a prior thread for a couple days.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3213180/posts?page=10#10
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3213180/posts?page=21#21
http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/jam.1997.10.105
The Size Distribution of Droplets in the Exhaled Breath of Healthy Human Subjects
RAO S. PAPINENI and FRANK S. ROSENTHAL. Journal of Aerosol Medicine. Summer 1997, 10(2): 105-116. doi:10.1089/jam.1997.10.105.
Published in Volume: 10 Issue 2: January 30, 2009
ABSTRACT
Droplets carried in exhaled breath may carry microorganisms capable of transmitting disease over both short and long distances. The size distribution of such droplets will influence the type of organisms that may be carried as well as strategies for controlling airborne infection. The aim of this study was to characterize the size distribution of droplets exhaled by healthy individuals. Exhaled droplets from human subjects performing four respiratory actions (mouth breathing, nose breathing, coughing, talking) were measured by both an optical particle counter (OPC) and an analytical transmission electron microscope (AEM). The OPC indicated a preponderance of particles less than 1 μ, although larger particles were also found. Measurements with the AEM confirmed the existence of larger sized droplets in the exhaled breath. In general, coughing produced the largest droplet concentrations and nose breathing the least, although considerable intersubject variability was observed.
and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3213180/posts?page=22#22
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/aerosols/pdfs/aerosol_101.pdf
Virus has dimension 0.08 microns. A 1 micron droplet will stay aloft for 12 hours if created from a height of 5 ft- plenty of time to be inhaled through a N95 mask, which is the CDC protocol.
Bottom Line: This virus is effectively airborne.
Experience shows that health workers can safely care for Ebola patients
“we don’t know how she got it, but it’s all her fault”.
It is never mentioned that their dreamy protocol involved some kind of antibacterial (viral) shower while she was still in her year.
But they are going to blame her, not their protocol??
Maybe because the thing is airborne. Their play on words is right out of the Bill Clinton playbook. The virus itself may not be airborne (yet) but if it is contained in particles floating in the air from sneezes, coughs, flushed toilets, whatever, it is airborne.
Maybe she touched something in the emergency waiting room just like other people did after Duncan was taken out.
Hoping the peons don't panic.
Of course it is airborne. The patient had projectile vomiting and diarrhea, and the nurses had to go into his room and all of the airborne spewage.
People don't get it yet: This is one hundred times worse than AIDS. People should be furious about this.
How? The idiot in the White House let Duncan travel into the country.
Next question.
The answer is simple. THPH is not a Level 4 CDC certified biosafety unit. Sure, Frieden now claims any ol’ hospital can handle Ebola. Well, yeah, because there’s nothing to handle aside from pushing fluids. It’s those other pesky little things like proper equipment and training that Frieden ignores. I suspect he knows it close to hitting the fan and his CDC doesn’t have the beds.
Isolation Unit Beds
2? - Emory, Atlanta
3 - The Care and Isolation Unit in Missoula, Montana, opened in 2005 by the National Institutes of Health to serve lab workers at Rocky Mountain Laboratories, hasn’t yet served an infectious disease patient, only a handful with tuberculosis or contagious bacterial infections. The rooms look like everyday hospital rooms—white, sterile, a TV and window for entertainment. That’s because St. Patrick Hospital retrofitted three of its ICU rooms to make the unit.
10 – Omaha, Nebraska Medical Center run twice yearly drills with decontamination at their hospital’s 10-bed biocontainment unit. Opened in 2005. Has never had an infectious disease patient. Prior to Dr. Sacra in Sept., the unit had only briefly housed one patient with malaria five years ago. Malaria does not require quarantine.
7 - NIH opened a seven-bed Special Clinical Studies Unit at the Clinical Research Center in Bethesda to replace it. Its four patient rooms (two doubles and a single). Bethesda unit has only served a patient with a drug-resistant bacterial illness. “It can handle the highest level of respiratory virus, but Ebola isn’t even spread that way,” said Richard Davey, deputy clinical director of NIH’s Division of Clinical Research.
? - US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) – Ft. Detrick, Maryland.
I don't know what makes you say that. AHH,AHHHHHHHH-CHOOOOOOOOOO.
Is the infected nurse black? If so, then there’s no doubt that evil, white, racist, Republicans or Tea Partiers did it... Somehow.
So ...how do they de-contaminate the dialysis machine....?
Did anyone watch “Outbreak”? CDC apparently doesn’t know as much as it thinks it does. Also there is a headline today the NIH guys blames the government for lack of funding.
So — the CDC director was “arguing from ignorance” when he said that there was a breach of procedure.
He doesn’t know that there was a breach of protocols, he’s just inferring “there must have been”, and inferring incorrectly because he doesn’t know what the real route of the nurse’s infection.
And so the CDC director blames the nurse, in effect, and in so doing also lies to the American people, by implying that he “knows” that the protocols are adequate and any infection must have been caused by not following them.
Tell me, on that basis, why a nurse would wish to risk her life by performing the nursing services she did supply?
By the way, did the nurse volunteer? Or was she directed by her superiors to perform the risky services?
I figured out that the virus is spread by exhaled breath. It was obvious to me two weeks ago. It’s spread in the air around a patient. Airborne. They don’t want us to panic.
My guess is that she contracted it because she does not support Amnesty or Common Sense gun control, and generally does not work with President Obama on anything.
No. The most recent update at http://www.who.int/csr/disease/ebola/situation-reports/en/ shows that 416 health care workers in Africa and now one in Spain and one in the United States have failed in terms of their own safely (233 fatal) when taking care of Ebola patients. Health workers cannot reliably take care of Ebola patients safely under current protocols. A professional would question his own protocols, and revise those procedures to account for human error or training deficiencies, while a politician would blame the victims who failed to perfectly comply with protocols that leave no margin for error. This CDC director is an Obama appointee and obviously the worst form of politician.
Either the nurse didn’t follow protocol...or improper/defective equipment/supplies were used (a tear in a gown or the wrong disinfectant was used,for example)...or there’s something we don’t know about the virus and its transmission.
So they should be wearing respirators instead of masks?
Prior to Duncan’s diagnosis, he was treated in the ER as any other patient, using hospital equipment in standard format.
All patients visiting that hospital since that first visit, and all hospital staff who came into contact with any surface which was handled directly or indirectly could have been placed in harms way. This nurse could have simply brushed against a contaminated cart, wall, door, tissue box . ..anything in the hospital which may have been contaminated over the course of time since Duncan first sought medical care - before she even put on protective gear.