Posted on 12/26/2014 8:17:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv
ISIS won’t attack through the Golan. Ultimately they would have to join in alliance with Hizbollah (or attack and destroy Hizbollah) in order to attack Israel through Lebanon. Again, the terrain is not to their advantage, neither is the technological edge. The big threat might emerge if ISIS turns its attention to Jordan, as the PA would gladly turn into their lane, or ISIS would instead annihilate the PA.
Y’know, that doesn’t sound that bad to me.
Again, the Israelis have a technological edge. They also have Egypt and Saudi Arabia as neighbors to the south, and the likelihood of either of those states starting something with Israel is vanishingly small. The only argument for Israel NOT to strike Iran is that, while Iran remains a threat to everyone else, Israel is the Arab states’ best option.
Thank you for posting that.
Holy God, watch over your faithful ones in Israel.
ISIS playbook to attack Israel would mostly include asymmetric warfare/terror attacks to this point. I think Jordan should be more worried...
With Assad gone, ISIS has a corridor to the Med and real easy access to destabilizing Lebanon. How does that help the US, Israel, or what’s left of civilization in Europe?
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You are looking at the situation the wrong way. The destabilization of Lebanon, the destruction of Israel and of all Western Civilization are undesirable outcomes for you and me, but they are among the goals of left.
But I worry how many Israelis would wind up dead in the process.
Even if it's not Military, Blow up enough Kids on School Buses and people start to take you seriously.
It is in Israel’s strategic interest that Iran and its allies like Syria and Russia be alienated from other Arab nations, the EU and US, all enemies of Israel in one way or another at this point in history.
Israel has worked from its beginning to exploit divisions among its enemies and seek Arab friends starting with the grandfather of the current Jordanian king who was assassinated for his friendly attitude towards Israel back around 1950.
Israel is working with the Saudis right now it appears to oppose Assad because he is the ally of Iran and along with Hezbollah, provide launch platforms for attacks on Israel.
The Saudis see Iran as a big threat as well.
Did the Saudis open up the oil spigots to hurt frackers in the US or hurt Russia, friend of Iran?
And events in Ukraine last January that have led things to where they are now did not happen by accident and I don’t think Putin would have started them during the Olympics.
I hope Israel kicks their ass
That’s why the US needs to stay out of the ISIS fight and offer assistance to anyone willing to fight them, but not put our boots on the ground.....
Saudi Arabia and Israel are fighting their common enemy Iran and its allies like Syria, Hezbollah and Russia right now as I see it.
The civil war is pushed in Syria to topple Assad and oil is pumped hurting Russia’s economy.
I think Israel can handle this, but as someone else said...they should not count on US aid. Obama is probably phoning in his support to the ISIS (ISIL) terrorists right now. He is probably also phoning the lamestream media his phony official support for Israel, to be on record, but praying for ISIS success. We know this game by now. Why the American people have not marched on DC to demand this regime’s ouster I cannot fathom. To me, it surely seems that much of the supposed outrage is just as long as it doesn’t cost more than $10-$25. Otherwise, the cost is too extreme and please don’t bother me. Unfortunately, I’m beginning to believe that most Americans have been sold over to socialism and have little stomach to do the hard things it will take to turn this country around.
Israel doesn’t have much to worry about when it comes to the hostility its none-too-neighborly neighbors have toward one another. But the number of coherent polities in the region has been declining for a while now.
The Russians have been trying to prevent direct distribution of methane from the Gulf states to the European market. The Turks favor it, they have also tried doing business with Iran. Assad supports whatever his sponsors want him to support, and is part of the route. Iraq’s a failed state, and Iran plans to keep it that way, maintaining a Shiite paramilitary buffer.
Traditional enemies Russia and Turkey have been in a thaw since Erdogan took power. Turkey currently transships (via pipelines) natural gas from Iran, and naturally will have to be involved in any commerce to Europe. Putin’s given up on his dismemberment and conquest of Ukraine (he had a few good years, after installing a puppet regime there) at least for now, and will wind up working with the Turks to bring more Iranian and Central Asian natural gas through Turkish territory and into the European market. If Syria can be tamed down, a pipeline from Arabia through Jordan and Syria will get built in a hurry.
Assad must know he’s expendible, moreso now than any time in the last four years, so he’s doing as little as possible, letting the various rebel groups (and local yokels he armed on the way out of town) fight each other and fight the Hezbollah. He’ll have to make a move of some kind as his position deteriorates, what the move will be will depend on what particular crapburger he’s willing to swallow.
Once the Iranians and Turks come to some kind of new understanding, the Russians will be out, but that will also mean the end of the Iranian nuclear weapons program. Turkey will remain in NATO rather than making an alliance with the Russians (how stupid would they have to be to align with Pooty’s evil empire?).
The Jordanian emir was assassinated in 1951 by terrorists associated with the PLO of today — in the al-Aqsa mosque. He was a slippery bastard too, but wanted a small allocation of contiguous territory for the Jews, and wanted much of the rest for himself.
His son spent his entire political career, until his death, trying to tiptoe down the white line in the middle of the road, banning the Muslim Brotherhood, granting clemency for many a death sentence, hosting terrorists, ruling over a 70 percent “Palestinian” population, claiming descent from Mohammed, launching wars on his Jewish neighbors, tipping the hand of his Arab ‘brothers’, but (after 30+ years of so-called negotiations) giving up his dream of re-annexing the “west bank” and concluding a peace treaty with Israel.
If Jordan goes, the all of Arabia will go. The current king of Jordan is just as much of a snake as his forebears, but he’s maybe half as smart. The stability of Jordan is his bulletproof vest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_I_of_Jordan#Expansionist_aspirations
http://www.resilience.org/stories/2014-08-01/the-emerging-iranian-turkish-energy-partnership
Abrams was known as an aggressive and successful armor commander.
General George Patton said of him:
"I'm supposed to be the best tank commander in the Army, but I have one peer — Abe Abrams.
He's the world champion
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The indomitable "Chesty" Puller saw the situation with his own brand of logic:
"Those poor bastards," he said.
"They've got us right where we want them. We can fire in any direction now!"
Our best move would be to support the Kurds against not only ISIS, but in their drive toward their own national state, carved out of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.
Yes.
ISIS’ forte is modern mobile fustest with the mostest. Re Jordan:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3241040/posts?page=61#61
Thanks marron.
My best guess is that not even the ISIS em-effers are as stupid as this. If they are, it would be the fastest way to guarantee their complete destruction.
All we need to do is make sure we never elect another Democrat, to any office, then replace all judges, while enacting tort reform.
The Israelis struck oil, struck natural gas, and won’t need hydrocarbon support from the US much longer. In 20 years, there will be seafloor pipelines running from Cyprus (the Greek part) to Israel on the one hand and Europe on the other, carrying natural gas, and perhaps liquid petroleum of some form.
The Turks before Erdogan took over wanted to build a “peace pipeline” to relay fresh water (Turkey has a surplus) to Cyprus (both sides), Israel, Gaza, Syria, Jordan (via Syria), including seafloor pipelines. That’s out of the question now. Turkey’s original pitch was to run the pipeline through Syria into Israel and Jordan, but none of the countries accepted that (Syria deprives Jordan of some of its freshwater supply with an illegal dam).
Egypt and Israel discussed diversion of Nile water across Sinai and into Israel; Sudan said (rather nonsensically) that they would shut down the flow of the Nile to Egypt if this was tried. Mubarek began his “peace canal” anyway, with a tunnel conduit under the Suez Canal and out into open air, along the Med coast of the Sinai, and reaching as far as El Arish, but excluding Israel. His idea was to expand water supplies into vacant areas to entice Egyptians out of the Nile valley and into new settlements.
Israel’s been working away at desalination technology, and building desalination plants. Under the 1994 treaty, Israel has to make up water shortfalls to Jordan, which it tries to do. Israel *should* shut down all water supplies to Gaza and the Arab-occupied areas of Judea and Samaria, they’d shed parasites by the 100s of 1000s. Instead, Israel will continue to build capacity until it can more than supply its needs and treaty obligations with desalination.
If Israel is attacked again, say, before early 2017, the US will help, or the Mossad will eliminate the political obstacle — it would simply be a matter of Israel’s survival. And, you can bet that, if that happened, there are FINOs who would spend the rest of their bitter lives complaining about it.
“ISIS Prepares to Attack Israel in North and South Pincer Movement”
Why should I believe this crap? Four weeks ago ISIS was on the cusp of overrunning Baghdad. Didn’t happen. Breithart is stretching its credibility and starting to look like World Nut Daily.
I’m quite sure they will at least try and attack Israel, but what will the body count be on the Israeli side? Who knows!
That Zero plan allows more chaos, like Libya...Benghazi....so it makes me wonder too.
This is nonsense. One thing ISIS has is a good PR guy. They have been beaten back by the Kurds, and are starting to fight amongst themselves. Israel is clearly the strongest military power in the region. ISIS wouldn’t get 100 yards into their attack before being obliterated.
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