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SOTU Fact Check: College Is Less Affordable And Students Are Billions In Debt
Townhall.com ^ | January 20, 2015 | Conn Carroll

Posted on 01/21/2015 1:19:37 PM PST by Kaslin

In his State of the Union Tuesday night, President Obama claimed his "middle-class economics" would help make college more affordable. But after six years in office, his policies have only made college more expensive.

When Obama first came into office, the average tuition for a four year in state college was $6,591. Today, it is $9139, a 38 percent increase. The growth in tuition for private schools was even higher.

Meanwhile, house hold median income has fallen from  $54,059 when Obama took office to $51,939 today. 

So college tuition has gone up while income has fallen. That is the opposite of making college more affordable.

So how are more Americans sending their kids to college? By mortgaging their future.

Student has exploded under Obama, rising from $669 billion when Obama took office to more than $1.2 trillion today.

And there is evidence that Obama's student debt explosion is a big reason why the Obama recovery has been so sluggish. According to the New York Federal Reserve, borrowers deep in student loan debt are less likely to buy cars or purchase homes than their less-indebted peers

Instead of encouraging the private sector to come up with new models for higher and vocational learning, Obama has shutdown educational entrepreneurs at every turn, and instead is attempting to micromanage the existing centuries old higher education system


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 114th; bhosotu; highereducation; studentloandebt
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1 posted on 01/21/2015 1:19:37 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Well then, lets DOUBLE the college debt, and let in 500% more HB1 visas.


2 posted on 01/21/2015 1:24:00 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Kaslin
End government subsidized and guaranteed student loans, make them exactly on par with any other signature loan (no collateral), and remove the exemption for bankruptcy and you'll see those tuition rates fall like stones.

The unlimited and unjustified loans, guaranteed by the government, enforced through exemption from the bankruptcy code, with repayments far in the future means that zero calculation has to be given to the possible financial gain that a degree would give the possible graduate in the work force.

There's a great reason why this system exists: without it, there wouldn't be a woman's studies department, there wouldn't be ethnic studies chairs, there’d be tens of thousands of more people getting their education in science. It is a virtually unlimited pipeline of cash going into the liberal arts programs of every university. These programs generate liberals, and typically, liberals who vote.

So end the programs. Do not authorize government guarantees of student loans, do not immunize student loans from bankruptcy. And when universities become desperate to fill up their near empty campuses, prices will fall, dramatically.

3 posted on 01/21/2015 1:29:01 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Kaslin

Obama’s FREE community college for ALL is nothing more than another program to reward his Leftist educators base.

Students will have no incentive to keep their grades up when they know that their teachers will be following the directives of their managers to ‘ensure’ that all students will have a minimum of a “C” grade to keep the government hog trough fed and flowing.

There will be no concern from the students about tuition costs when the government community college administrators know that they will always be backed up by Uncle Sugar.

And with Government free goodies comes assurance of school administrators that approved government curriculum’s will be all that is allowed for indoctrination of students.


4 posted on 01/21/2015 1:29:09 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: kingu

Oh, it’s “unaffordable”? Let’s subsidize it more!
[prices adjust for supply and demand]
Oh, it’s “unaffordable”? Let’s subsidize it more!
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Oh, it’s “unaffordable”? Let’s subsidize it more!
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Oh, it’s “unaffordable”? Let’s subsidize it more!


5 posted on 01/21/2015 1:30:29 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

Thousands of billions in fact, aka a trillion.


6 posted on 01/21/2015 1:31:45 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Kaslin

Pension reform would lower college debt.


7 posted on 01/21/2015 1:33:56 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Kaslin

If you want to see college costs skyrocket even more then just get the government involved and provide it “for free”.


8 posted on 01/21/2015 1:53:02 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Kaslin
College Is Less Affordable And Students Are Billions In Debt

The solution to this problem is defunding left wing Democrats who live off of the Higher education system. It's time to make the knowledge free and dispense with the need to pay these troublemakers.

9 posted on 01/21/2015 1:55:49 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: kingu
Large Bump!
Hit the nail squarely on the head.

Student loans:

1. Encourage tuition increases
2. Encourage "silly" classes
3. Result in outrageous salaries for professors

I was listening to Dave Ramsey attempt to help a young woman. He asked about her debt. Student loans: $110,000. That is utterly ridiculous!

Fortunately, her degree is in computer engineering. So she stands a good chance of getting a nice job. Hopefully her salary will let her pay off the loans quickly.

10 posted on 01/21/2015 1:56:53 PM PST by upchuck (Entrenched incumbency is the disease. Fresh blood is the cure.)
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To: kingu
End government subsidized and guaranteed student loans, make them exactly on par with any other signature loan (no collateral), and remove the exemption for bankruptcy and you'll see those tuition rates fall like stones.

The unlimited and unjustified loans, guaranteed by the government, enforced through exemption from the bankruptcy code, with repayments far in the future means that zero calculation has to be given to the possible financial gain that a degree would give the possible graduate in the work force.

There's a great reason why this system exists: without it, there wouldn't be a woman's studies department, there wouldn't be ethnic studies chairs, there’d be tens of thousands of more people getting their education in science. It is a virtually unlimited pipeline of cash going into the liberal arts programs of every university. These programs generate liberals, and typically, liberals who vote.

So end the programs. Do not authorize government guarantees of student loans, do not immunize student loans from bankruptcy. And when universities become desperate to fill up their near empty campuses, prices will fall, dramatically.

So well stated, it deserved to be repeated.

11 posted on 01/21/2015 1:57:16 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: Kaslin

Conservatives in 1958, when I was very young, tried to explain how federal aid in such cases would be counterproductive, but the American people could not and still can’t understand.


12 posted on 01/21/2015 2:14:49 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: upchuck

It takes quite a salary to pay off $110,000. Beyond what the average little American has


13 posted on 01/21/2015 2:16:39 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Kaslin
I can't really complain about this considering how these cost are making us so much more competitive in the world:

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14 posted on 01/21/2015 2:16:43 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: upchuck

She’ll be paying the equivalent of a house mortgage for at least 10 years.


15 posted on 01/21/2015 2:18:54 PM PST by PTBAA
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To: Kaslin

When Obama says “affordable”, he always means “by giving out tax dollars and fiat currency”.


16 posted on 01/21/2015 2:21:57 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Kaslin

For the 10,000th time, when government pumps money into education, it simply increases tuition costs. Colleges simply raise tuition to the point where they are squeezing all they can out of the government subsidy + the student. The only ones who benefit are the college professors and administrators, who have seen their salaries skyrocket over the past 50 years or so.


17 posted on 01/21/2015 2:31:07 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Our daughter who graduated recently in the Speech Therapy field was influenced by these academics who live off the system, that Graduate study was crucial in obtaining a position in her expertise… Now, she is an adult who did make her own decisions & understands her responsibilities, but having done so incurred nearly 60% of her student debt in just the two Masters years. Needless to say, she’s been unsuccessful for almost another 2 years thereafter finding a job she’s trained to do; fortunately, she’s working hard in a related area (at a depressed salary), but faces many years of repayment ahead regardless of income prospects.

Despite their efforts to blame Conservatives or “somebody else” for the rampant costs of higher education, the Left has no evil, corporate bogeyman they can point to for this fiasco.


18 posted on 01/21/2015 2:33:42 PM PST by mikrofon (Humpday BUMPty)
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To: upchuck
I was listening to Dave Ramsey attempt to help a young woman. He asked about her debt. Student loans: $110,000. That is utterly ridiculous! Fortunately, her degree is in computer engineering. So she stands a good chance of getting a nice job. Hopefully her salary will let her pay off the loans quickly.

Entering into the job market with $110k in debt following right behind you. That's a down payment for a home and car. It is a burden that is twice as big as it should be because of the student loan programs that are inflating tuition.

To shackle a young woman (or presumably her family as well, since many of these loans include family co-signers) with such a burden at the start of the career is crazy.

19 posted on 01/21/2015 3:01:00 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Kaslin

Many businesses are now doing credit checks of prospective employees. I wonder how massive amouts of student loan debt affects the opportunity to get hired?

I know that there has got to be a business owner or hiring official on FR that could answer this question.


20 posted on 01/21/2015 3:21:31 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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