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BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 [Ball] Ammo
NRAila.org ^ | February 14, 2015 | NRA

Posted on 02/14/2015 9:38:50 AM PST by Reverend Saltine

In a move clearly intended by the Obama Administration to suppress the acquisition, ownership and use of AR-15s and other .223 caliber general purpose rifles, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives unexpectedly announced today that it intends to ban commonplace M855 ball ammunition as “armor piercing ammunition.” The decision continues Obama’s use of his executive authority to impose gun control restrictions and bypass Congress.

It isn’t even the third week of February, and the BATFE has already taken three major executive actions on gun control. First, it was a major change to what activities constitute regulated “manufacturing” of firearms. Next, BATFE reversed a less than year old position on firing a shouldered “pistol.” Now, BATFE has released a “Framework for Determining Whether Certain Projectiles are ‘Primarily Intended for Sporting Purposes’ Within the Meaning of 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(c)”, which would eliminate M855’s exemption to the armor piercing ammunition prohibition and make future exemptions nearly impossible.

By way of background, federal law imposed in 1986 prohibits the manufacture, importation, and sale by licensed manufacturers or importers, but not possession, of “a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely . . . from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium.” Because there are handguns capable of firing M855, it “may be used in a handgun.” It does not, however, have a core made of the metals listed in the law; rather, it has a traditional lead core with a steel tip, and therefore should never have been considered “armor piercing.” Nonetheless, BATFE previously declared M855 to be “armor piercing ammunition,” but granted it an exemption as a projectile “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes.”

Now, however, BATFE says that it will henceforth grant the “sporting purposes” exception to only two categories of projectiles:

Category I: .22 Caliber Projectiles

A .22 caliber projectile that otherwise would be classified as armor piercing ammunition under 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(B) will be considered to be “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes” under section 921(a)(17)(C) if the projectile weighs 40 grains or less AND is loaded into a rimfire cartridge.

Category II: All Other Caliber Projectiles

Except as provided in Category I (.22 caliber rimfire), projectiles that otherwise would be classified as armor piercing ammunition will be presumed to be “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes” under section 921(a)(17)(C) if the projectile is loaded into a cartridge for which the only handgun that is readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade is a single shot handgun. ATF nevertheless retains the discretion to deny any application for a “sporting purposes” exemption if substantial evidence exists that the ammunition is not primarily intended for such purposes.

BATFE is accepting comments until March 16, 2015 on this indefensible attempt to disrupt ammunition for the most popular rifle in America. Check back early next week for a more in-depth analysis of this “framework” and details on how you can submit comments.

How to comment – from the BATFE

ATF will carefully consider all comments, as appropriate, received on or before March 16, 2015, and will give comments received after that date the same consideration if it is practical to do so, but assurance of consideration cannot be given except as to comments received on or before March 16, 2015. ATF will not acknowledge receipt of comments. Submit comments in any of three ways (but do not submit the same comments multiple times or by more than one method):

ATF email: APAComments@atf.gov

Fax: (202) 648-9741.

Mail: Denise Brown, Mailstop 6N-602, Office of Regulatory Affairs, Enforcement Programs and Services, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, 99 New York Avenue, NE, Washington, DC 20226: ATTN: AP Ammo Comments.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Denise Brown, Enforcement Programs and Services, Office of Regulatory Affairs, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, U.S. Department of Justice, 99 New York Avenue, NE, Washington, DC 20226; telephone: (202) 648-7070.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndconspiracy; banglist; batfconspiracy; m855; obama; obamadictator; obamaguns
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To: NativeSon

i usually wish “face or eyeball cancer” on people :)


41 posted on 02/14/2015 11:50:24 AM PST by Reverend Saltine (Don't say, "the administration," or "the EPA"--say "OBAMA." Give him full credit)
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To: All
""When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson


42 posted on 02/14/2015 12:08:59 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

I don’t think it is a round designed to function well in a handgun. Even though there are .223 “handguns”


43 posted on 02/14/2015 12:20:35 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: Reverend Saltine

I thought Congress had something to do with making laws...


44 posted on 02/14/2015 12:22:28 PM PST by GeronL
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I’m starting to think that AR-15’s should be mandatory for every good American and government-funded (everything else is it seems like)


45 posted on 02/14/2015 12:23:24 PM PST by GeronL
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Looks like they’re trying to take our ammo though.


46 posted on 02/14/2015 12:23:39 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: truth_seeker

“Federal law” is made by Congress, regulations are not law


47 posted on 02/14/2015 12:24:55 PM PST by GeronL
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I don’t think it is a round designed to function well in a handgun. Even though there are .223 “handguns”

True. I've heard the scoped Thompson Contender works fine though.

48 posted on 02/14/2015 12:25:35 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: elcid1970

He can and will do a LOT of damage in the remaining time. Once the laws and statutes are on the books, it’s near impossible to get them off, amend or reverse them. Congress is neutered and useless anymore. 0bummerCare will never be reversed or repealed.


49 posted on 02/14/2015 12:43:01 PM PST by Carriage Hill ( Dip me in honey and throw me to the lesbians.)
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To: clearcarbon

At gun shows the ammo vendors have already grabbed their Sharpies for markups on 5.56mm.


50 posted on 02/14/2015 12:43:32 PM PST by elcid1970 ("I: am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I just sold one of these. It was an SBR, not really a "pistol".


51 posted on 02/14/2015 12:49:48 PM PST by Carriage Hill ( Dip me in honey and throw me to the lesbians.)
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To: Reverend Saltine

Is it time to shoot the b@$t@rd$ yet?


52 posted on 02/14/2015 12:51:48 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Art in Idaho
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

Great photo. And see my tagline.

53 posted on 02/14/2015 12:56:05 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Art in Idaho
Is someone making a handgun that uses this ammunition?

Lots of people: .223 handgun

3 of the 4 pictures there look more like machine pistols than handguns. Scary looking enough to be illegal in about 40 states.

54 posted on 02/14/2015 12:59:57 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Obadiah
Found this at cabelas. Shows it in stock
Link
55 posted on 02/14/2015 1:13:36 PM PST by Render
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To: JimRed
Scary looking enough to be illegal in about 40 states.

Spring housings make liberal knees quake.

56 posted on 02/14/2015 1:23:02 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: carriage_hill

Barrel length?


57 posted on 02/14/2015 1:37:42 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: Reverend Saltine

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


58 posted on 02/14/2015 2:39:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I own a .22 magnum and it will do the same damage as other rounds around the .22 gauge.

Shoot them in the head or heart and believe me, they will die just like if you shot them with a .44 mag.


59 posted on 02/14/2015 2:39:53 PM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Reverend Saltine

The BATFE “proposal” doesn’t meet legal scrutiny of what constitutes an AP rifle round fired out of a “handgun”. They know as well as everyone else that the M855 is not “armored piercing,” and that because it may be fired out of a “AR Pistol” does not gives them justification to ban a very common the centerfire rifle round.


60 posted on 02/14/2015 2:44:44 PM PST by Red Steel
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