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"What ISIS Really Wants"
The Atlantic ^ | March 2015 | Graeme Wood

Posted on 02/16/2015 10:22:09 PM PST by SMCC1

"What is the Islamic State?

Where did it come from, and what are its intentions? The simplicity of these questions can be deceiving, and few Western leaders seem to know the answers. In December, The New York Times published confidential comments by Major General Michael K. Nagata, the Special Operations commander for the United States in the Middle East, admitting that he had hardly begun figuring out the Islamic State’s appeal. “We have not defeated the idea,” he said. “We do not even understand the idea.” In the past year, President Obama has referred to the Islamic State, variously, as “not Islamic” and as al-Qaeda’s “jayvee team,” statements that reflected confusion about the group, and may have contributed to significant strategic errors."

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To: piasa

Oh yeah... also note that Maqdidi’s got some other ideology that went unmentioned:

Essam Al Barqawi a/k/a Abu Muhamamad Al Maqdisi

http://www.takfiris.com/takfir/articles/wdzlo-abu-muhammad-al-maqdisi-isaam-barqawi.cfm

Kind of explains the stealing of aid food and its redistribution under ISIS label and their other emphasis on providing “social services,” the reference to ISIS’ weird blend of devout Islam with progressive-like behavior.

Carrot and stick strategy. We feed you or else, you obey or starve...


41 posted on 02/17/2015 2:16:28 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: SMCC1

This is a license to kill


42 posted on 02/17/2015 2:28:46 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit = arrogant little bastard)
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To: piasa

The author refers to him as a Leninist.


43 posted on 02/17/2015 2:29:09 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Excellence

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3258315/posts

Note to self.


44 posted on 02/17/2015 2:56:29 AM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: SMCC1

Harf says all they really need are jobs at Taco Bell and then everything will be fine.


45 posted on 02/17/2015 3:03:45 AM PST by Bullish (Not even a smidgeon of integrity or sanity in this whitehouse.)
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To: Bullish

Do you want hot or mild sauce with that?

46 posted on 02/17/2015 3:11:00 AM PST by Bullish (Not even a smidgeon of integrity or sanity in this whitehouse.)
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To: piasa

Oh, they’ll definitely remain Islamic nutcases, but first of all, taking away the land means killing most of them, and since they are tied to the land and therefore can be located (unlike AQ), they should be much easier to destroy.

We have to learn to use their own strategies against them.


47 posted on 02/17/2015 4:31:02 AM PST by livius
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To: LeoWindhorse

Yup...Your enemy is your enemy.

Get fancy deciding what to call him, and he’ll win


48 posted on 02/17/2015 4:36:53 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: SMCC1
It's an important article, because it allows cowardly liberals to edge away from the standard PC "religion of peace" BS.


49 posted on 02/17/2015 5:33:00 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SMCC1
Surprisingly thorough, informative and important article from The Atlantic.

Agreed. Good read.

50 posted on 02/17/2015 6:13:37 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Paul R.
very little of what it says in general is any surprise whatsoever, to any one who has been watching at all, as ISIS has come onto the scene.

Yes. But, what a shock to see some unvarnished, unspun truth in a lefty journal. I especially liked the way the apocalyptic aspect of the this is presented.

51 posted on 02/17/2015 6:31:35 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: SMCC1

Islam is a demonic religion; the Left is Satanic. No wonder the two are allies and 0bama, a man infused with the spirit of anti-Christ, is giving them cover.


52 posted on 02/17/2015 6:43:38 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats & GOPe delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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To: SMCC1
Yes, a very good and important read.

I'm not surprised to find it in The Atlantic. They are always literately written, usually in depth, and often, though hardly a majority of the time, have authors who chase the truth rather than their own biases. The articles they print by those authors are very worthwhile.

53 posted on 02/17/2015 6:47:18 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: SMCC1

I’ve read it now, it’s excellent. The author pulls no punches at all. I certainly hope Valerie Jarret reads this soon.

I could quote about a dozen lines from it but the only thing to really say is: READ THE WHOLE THING!


54 posted on 02/17/2015 6:55:25 AM PST by jocon307 (Tell it like it is.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

You’re making distinction without a difference. The lie about the Englished acronym for the DAESH is that the S stands for Syria, which makes it sound to the naive as if their claim is limited to the modern states of Iraq and Syria. It stands for al-Sham, which means the Levant. The preference for correctly Englishing the name before making an acronym of it shown by the State Department and Obama administration does not encourage their ambition, merely makes it slightly clearer to anyone paying attention.

(By they way, call them the DAESH or DAISH — I see no reason why Muslim terrorist organizations should have their name Englished before being turned into an acryonym. It’s the FARC, not the RAFC, ETA not BHF, the PKK not the KWP, so it’s the DAESH not ISIS or ISIL. Besides pronounced correctly, the Arabic acronym is a slur against them, sounding a bit like two different Arabic words, one of which means “to trample or crush”, the other of which means “felon”.)


55 posted on 02/17/2015 6:59:23 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: virgil

“Let them go, but don’t let them return.”

Yes, that seems to make more sense. But the govts may feel unsure of their ability to keep them out should they seek to return.


56 posted on 02/17/2015 7:00:52 AM PST by jocon307 (Tell it like it is.)
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To: SMCC1

bump


57 posted on 02/17/2015 7:20:34 AM PST by Oratam
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To: SMCC1

Interesting article. Though the writer is obviously informed, he can’t seem to get beyond his mental baggage.


58 posted on 02/17/2015 7:39:28 AM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: livius
Take away the land they have seized by killing them and retaking it, and they evaporate.

The article was very good. This whole caliphate thing was a joke to me at first, but the article points out how important it is to them and now that they have land, it's Muslims 'religious duty' to join up now. The longer we wait, the more land they will acquire and the Muslims worldwide will join up.

I agree that taking away there land is the key and yes, this will involve a Desert Storm Blitzkrieg type of operation. Hey Dumbo, we shouldn't have left in the first place. Another spike in your negative legacy. He's so worried about his legacy. What a joke. Just send him Nachum's list and post it outside his 'Presidential library' - every page.

So, it's now or later Pentagon, it's your call. Hit their supply chains and let the festivities begin. What, he won't let us? . . . . You're telling me this guy is determining the future of our nation and the world?

What would Chesty Puller do?

59 posted on 02/17/2015 7:58:18 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Yes, the graphic says it all...and I still think the guy is so crazy he believes he’s the new leader of all Muslims.

Maybe the thing that will bring him down is that the Muslims don’t seem to think so. And his wife, who refused to dress in Islamic garb on their last trip to Muslimlandia, is obviously not on board with this because she’s having too much fun spending money and traveling to want to end up wearing a cloth garbage bag while Barak goes and hangs out with the - er, boys. Literally, since pederasty is a big part of the rich Islamic male’s sex life. And sex and violence are what Islam is all about.


60 posted on 02/17/2015 8:34:35 AM PST by livius
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