Posted on 07/03/2015 3:06:29 PM PDT by Kaslin
I don’t know it, so it’s reasoned to say I’m not correct if it points otherwise.
Yes, and California should be 49 or 50.
Ya, that kinna blew this whole thing out of the water for me too. Washington. #2. Ya.
Mitt's family moved to Mexico permanently, because they rejected the United States, and Mitt's father was born there.
Here are Mitt's sons, while he campaigned to lead America in war, in the Middle East, just as his father had campaigned to lead us during the Vietnam War (as the anti-war republican), while Mitt avoided the draft.
Everyone in this photo refused to serve, the family tradition has never been broken, and as you can see in the article, this is normal for the Mormons of Utah.
Ansel I’m not sure you can make anything of the fact that none of his family volunteered to serve after the draft ended.
Is it anti-American not to volunteer?
I do the best I can to support sound policy and thus the nation, but I didn’t serve in the armed forces. Does that make me an anti-Ameriican or unpatriotic.
I don’t want Mitt for President, so I’m not here to make the case he’s a good candidate by any means. I just don’t think we should come to certain conclusions based on some seemingly sound points.
Washington was big into July 4th when I was there. Real big. Show grade fireworks in neighborhood big.. Blow your arm off big.
Fire extinguisher at the ready big.
PTSD from fireworks going off outside your house a medical coverage?
I give you the 173 history of no one in Mitt’s direct line ever serving America in uniform, including Mitt avoiding military service and even the draft as he claimed to support the Vietnam war, and his father campaigned for president, and point out that his five sons did the same thing, and I connect that to the Mormon state of Utah being 49th in enlistments.
And your come back is “I’m not sure you can make anything of the fact that none of his family volunteered to serve after the draft ended.”?
Wow.
Ansel, what percentage of families in America have served?
I respect that service very much, but I still think you’re painting with too broad a brush.
I note you didn’t comment on the fact I haven’t served.
I considered myself very fortunate to have gotten a lottery number of 352 out of 365 in the closing days of the Vietnam War. Does that make me an anti-American?
Much is made of all the people who volunteered for service in WWII. I don’t think everyone did. Those that didn’t, are they all unAmerican?
If one guy isn’t guilty for having taken a pass on service, then nobody who took a pass on service is guilty of something vile.
Would I respect it if one of them had served? You bet I would. Am I going to trash them for not doing so? No.
Perhaps I’m in the vast minority on this, but that’s my take on it.
Romeny and his family didn’t work to betray this nation to my knowledge. They didn’t help the enemy or pass secrets or try to defeat our efforts. Not seeing any of that, I’m not convinced you’ve got the smoking gun you think you do here.
Not trying to be mean about it. I’m just trying to be fair to a family I’ve never been particularly impressed with.
LOL, I shouldn’t have brought up the Romneys and patriotism and Utah on this 4th of July evidently, even on a thread where states and patriotism are the topic.
Especially to someone who evidently feels so much guilt, that he can only think of himself when he read post 24, well, himself and that someone dared reveal a negative about the Romney family.
No one in Mitt’s line has ever served us in the military during that entire 173 years, no war, no draft, no wave of patriotism, not even two generations of of his family seeking to be Commander in chief during war time (Mitt and his father), could get the sons of the candidates to enlist, Mitt even avoided a draft.
Mitt’s family moved to Mexico permanently, because they rejected the United States, and Mitt’s father was born there.
Here are Mitt’s sons, while he campaigned to lead America in war, in the Middle East, just as his father had campaigned to lead us during the Vietnam War (as the anti-war republican), while Mitt avoided the draft.
The family tradition has never been broken, and as you can see in the article, this is normal for the Mormons of Utah.
Get over yourself, you have your own conscience to live with, and I didn’t post about you, and I don’t know your family history, I posted about the Romneys and Utah people not serving.
Thank you for your response Ansel12.
I think your comments are fine. You’re welcome to disagree with me.
I do think the 4th holds special significance for those who served. I always think of them on that day.
Perhaps it as wrong of me to mention my own status. I don’t consider it to be narcissistic to do so. If you believe it is, it’s okay with me.
Leftist Maryland is ranked 18th most patriotic? That is total rubbish.
Holy cow. You clearly have never been to Annapolis. They are fully patriotic. I have many neighbors not affiliated with the military and LOVE the Naval Academy.
Precisely. The measure should be where they enlisted from, not where they retired to or are assigned.
Precisely...what does the Peace Corps have to do with anything? I’d place a higher standard on individuals employed in the private sector.
Diluted by the number of Mexicans living there.
You both make a good case to resume conscription, which I’d support.
No shock at all; northeast NJ (my area) is packed with foreigners and unassimilated ethnic minorities. My town’s Peruvian Day parade dwarfs our St. Patrick’s Day parade (for which we had been renowned in the past). Our area was settled long before the American Revolution, the town is named after a Civil War general, and today it is packed with people who don’t speak English.
I’m in Central NJ. If you want some curry, take a road trip and visit me. Since the millennium, every strip mall has an Indian restaurant. Almost all my doctors now are Indian too.
When i was a kid this area was very Republican. Now it’s very Democratic. I don’t know where the Republicans went. In my voting district there are only 212 for 10,000 Dems.
I’m between Newark & Jersey City; more and more Indian restaurants here as well. Most of the convenience stores & gas stations as well (the mechanics’ bays converted to mini convenience stores/bodegas).
The Republicans either fled or were contracepted out of existence; NJ is getting very Third World...
That was a total loss for me as well.
“Un-Assimilated” is the key. I wonder how many of those Peruvian immigrants are placing men into any branch of the service. If it is like the Brazilian & Haitian areas where I live, the answer is virtually none. I talk to recruiters every week, and all services tell me that aside from Asian areas, looking for service members in immigrant communities is useless.
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